Comments on: Saudi religious police destroyed a clandestine Hindu temple in Riyadh http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/ We Still Hold The Key And Deed To Our Home In Palestine. We Will Return! Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:51:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Religion Only 4 Soul - Leave it that Way http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-354257 Religion Only 4 Soul - Leave it that Way Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:08:07 +0000 /?p=499#comment-354257 14Rukaya Says: This is just one temple which was obviously was built without permission, compare this to the number of Msjids that are being destroyed by Hindu�s and Sikh�s in India plus the number of Muslims being killed everyday in Kashmir. This is not the act of sick minded people but it is the act of a sovereign country which abides by the law of Islam which is against the worship of creatures. Having lived in the gulf since my formulative years, and even surrounded by muslims most of my life... i never found religion as a major barrier between human beings... and rukayyas statment above makes it evident that he doesn know what he/she is talking about.... there are more mosques in india than in any other muslim country in the world... and the fact that the second largest muslim population in the world speaks volumes on the religious tolerance of india... muslims killed in kashmir are killed by fellow muslims for their own vested interests... the state receives more priviliges and funds by the constitution than any other state... also there are hundreds killed everyday in iraq and pakistan and they are by fellow muslims... and no hindu anywhere in sight or among the dead... read the news... islam is a religion of peace to those who understand the true meaning of religion... you can mock at the relgion of a christian, hindu, buddhist etc in front of one and most likely he or she will not bother much thinking that your crazy... whereas if you tell do likewise to a muslim... he will go crazy and your house could be torched with you and your family inside... enlighten me... 14Rukaya Says:

This is just one temple which was obviously was built without permission, compare this to the number of Msjids that are being destroyed by Hindu�s and Sikh�s in India plus the number of Muslims being killed everyday in Kashmir.
This is not the act of sick minded people but it is the act of a sovereign country which abides by the law of Islam which is against the worship of creatures.

Having lived in the gulf since my formulative years, and even surrounded by muslims most of my life… i never found religion as a major barrier between human beings… and rukayyas statment above makes it evident that he doesn know what he/she is talking about….
there are more mosques in india than in any other muslim country in the world… and the fact that the second largest muslim population in the world speaks volumes on the religious tolerance of india…
muslims killed in kashmir are killed by fellow muslims for their own vested interests… the state receives more priviliges and funds by the constitution than any other state… also there are hundreds killed everyday in iraq and pakistan and they are by fellow muslims… and no hindu anywhere in sight or among the dead… read the news…
islam is a religion of peace to those who understand the true meaning of religion…
you can mock at the relgion of a christian, hindu, buddhist etc in front of one and most likely he or she will not bother much thinking that your crazy… whereas if you tell do likewise to a muslim… he will go crazy and your house could be torched with you and your family inside…
enlighten me…

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]]> By: almuhanad http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-14289 almuhanad Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:30:17 +0000 /?p=499#comment-14289 I have to agree with Joe Nobody, it is clear we come from different backgrounds but at least we have one thing in common and that is we know Saudi Arabia from inside. To judge that country you have to live there long enough, mix with its people from different regions before you can pass any judgement. Whether it is true or not and whether we like it or not Saudi Arabia is the only country where it has no law exept Sharia' law (which is supposedly derived from Holy Qura'n),now somebody might say this law is applied only towards the poor not the wealthy, this could be true but it is not what we are talking about. Prophet Mohammad (Pbuh)instructed Muslims in his last speech (Farewell Speech) that only one religion should be in the Arabian Penensula and that is Islam, one God to be worshipped and it is Allah. It is a clear cut belief. Non-Muslims come to Saudi Arabia for one single purpose and that is work, and work is what they should do, what you do inside your house is your own business and no body will bother you, but if you try to sell home-made alcohol it is forbidden, you can worship Budda but do not build a temple and invite others to join you in there that is illegal. Everybody knows that Singapore prohibits many things among which is chewing gums, even tourists will be punished if they break the law over there. Try slaughtering a cow in India, you are in a big trouble. I am not defending the regime in Saudi Arabia, I can say many things against it, but the issue here is not freedom of speech or expression, or Human Rights violation, it is simply a Shariat Law which no body can argue with. I have to agree with Joe Nobody, it is clear we come from different backgrounds but at least we have one thing in common and that is we know Saudi Arabia from inside. To judge that country you have to live there long enough, mix with its people from different regions before you can pass any judgement. Whether it is true or not and whether we like it or not Saudi Arabia is the only country where it has no law exept Sharia’ law (which is supposedly derived from Holy Qura’n),now somebody might say this law is applied only towards the poor not the wealthy, this could be true but it is not what we are talking about. Prophet Mohammad (Pbuh)instructed Muslims in his last speech (Farewell Speech) that only one religion should be in the Arabian Penensula and that is Islam, one God to be worshipped and it is Allah. It is a clear cut belief. Non-Muslims come to Saudi Arabia for one single purpose and that is work, and work is what they should do, what you do inside your house is your own business and no body will bother you, but if you try to sell home-made alcohol it is forbidden, you can worship Budda but do not build a temple and invite others to join you in there that is illegal. Everybody knows that Singapore prohibits many things among which is chewing gums, even tourists will be punished if they break the law over there. Try slaughtering a cow in India, you are in a big trouble. I am not defending the regime in Saudi Arabia, I can say many things against it, but the issue here is not freedom of speech or expression, or Human Rights violation, it is simply a Shariat Law which no body can argue with.

]]> By: kinzi http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-14009 kinzi Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:19:36 +0000 /?p=499#comment-14009 Sandman, that is quite a stretch in "cultural perspective" to say that capital punishment (which is almost always for brutal murder) could for a moment be equated with whipping for forgetting that a cross might be seen. The Saudis I have met aren't by any means barbarians, but it there are practices that fit the bill. Sandman, that is quite a stretch in “cultural perspective” to say that capital punishment (which is almost always for brutal murder) could for a moment be equated with whipping for forgetting that a cross might be seen. The Saudis I have met aren’t by any means barbarians, but it there are practices that fit the bill.

]]> By: abu Sinan http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-13973 abu Sinan Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:14:52 +0000 /?p=499#comment-13973 Great post Sandman, spot on. As a Muslim, I hope that change is coming to the people of "Saudi" Arabia. Insha'Allah. The government there is corrupt and has only the wishes of the ruling elite in mind. They care no more about Islam than they do their people. They use it to continue their stranglehold over the people. Great post Sandman, spot on. As a Muslim, I hope that change is coming to the people of “Saudi” Arabia. Insha’Allah. The government there is corrupt and has only the wishes of the ruling elite in mind. They care no more about Islam than they do their people. They use it to continue their stranglehold over the people.

]]> By: Sandman http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-13972 Sandman Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:22:07 +0000 /?p=499#comment-13972 Actually all Saudis are Muslim by definition - whether they act like Muslims is another question. Certainly once some of them cross the border to Bahrain/Dubai they do partake in certain activities not otherwise available in Saudi and seemingly not sanctioned by Islam. However, 20% of the population aren't Saudis (like me) and some of that number aren't Muslims (like me). I agree with Joe Nobody that if we choose to live here we agree to play by their rules. Therefore, I am not going to build a church or open a pub (and everyone here knows open displays of alternative religions will not be tolerated). I also agree that it is very easy to sit outside the Kingdom and take pot-shots at the choices they make in running their country. Gladwyn thinks corporal punishment is barbaric. In my home country we think capital punishment is barbaric. That doesn't mean I think the US is full of barbarians any more than I think Saudi is. It's surely all a matter of interpretation from your own cultural perspective. That non-Saudi Muslims think that the Saudi interpretation of Islam is misguided is simply another example of this. Actually all Saudis are Muslim by definition - whether they act like Muslims is another question. Certainly once some of them cross the border to Bahrain/Dubai they do partake in certain activities not otherwise available in Saudi and seemingly not sanctioned by Islam. However, 20% of the population aren’t Saudis (like me) and some of that number aren’t Muslims (like me). I agree with Joe Nobody that if we choose to live here we agree to play by their rules. Therefore, I am not going to build a church or open a pub (and everyone here knows open displays of alternative religions will not be tolerated). I also agree that it is very easy to sit outside the Kingdom and take pot-shots at the choices they make in running their country. Gladwyn thinks corporal punishment is barbaric. In my home country we think capital punishment is barbaric. That doesn’t mean I think the US is full of barbarians any more than I think Saudi is. It’s surely all a matter of interpretation from your own cultural perspective. That non-Saudi Muslims think that the Saudi interpretation of Islam is misguided is simply another example of this.

]]> By: zaratul http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-13938 zaratul Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:04:10 +0000 /?p=499#comment-13938 All saudis Muslims,Who, what, How? Makes me laugh!!! Gone are the days Lost that long time ago I think since generations.Muslims where muslims only during Prophets time. At least give it a try to become muslims. All saudis Muslims,Who, what, How? Makes me laugh!!!

Gone are the days
Lost that long time ago I think since generations.Muslims where muslims only during Prophets time.

At least give it a try to become muslims.

]]> By: Gladwyn http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-12972 Gladwyn Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:48:33 +0000 /?p=499#comment-12972 I agree with Haitham here, during the crusades Salahudin (forgive me if I ahev spelt it incorrectly) defeated the crusaders and took control fo Jerusalem for a couple of years. He agreed to allow the inhabitants to continue to worship their religions and promised never to destroy any area of religious importance. The saudi government would never allow any foreign religion to be worshipped in Saudi Arabia. A Norwegian friend of mine wore a cross on his neck and during a routine check the cross was exposed. He was unaware that it had happenned and continued to walk around. He was jailed and lashed 40 times for that innocent mistake. Don't presume to tell me that it wasn't a barbaric punishment. I am not trying to stand up FOR USA here, but all I hear is complaints of barbarism by United states on suspected terrorists. If that seems so barbaric, perhaps one should look towards Saudi Arabia where barbarism comes aplenty. I agree with Haitham here, during the crusades Salahudin (forgive me if I ahev spelt it incorrectly) defeated the crusaders and took control fo Jerusalem for a couple of years. He agreed to allow the inhabitants to continue to worship their religions and promised never to destroy any area of religious importance.
The saudi government would never allow any foreign religion to be worshipped in Saudi Arabia. A Norwegian friend of mine wore a cross on his neck and during a routine check the cross was exposed. He was unaware that it had happenned and continued to walk around. He was jailed and lashed 40 times for that innocent mistake. Don’t presume to tell me that it wasn’t a barbaric punishment. I am not trying to stand up FOR USA here, but all I hear is complaints of barbarism by United states on suspected terrorists. If that seems so barbaric, perhaps one should look towards Saudi Arabia where barbarism comes aplenty.

]]> By: Haitham http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-5452 Haitham Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:05:52 +0000 /?p=499#comment-5452 No harm done, Joe. Enjoy your time ;-) Regards No harm done, Joe. Enjoy your time ;-)

Regards

]]> By: Joe Nobody http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/03/28/saudi-religious-police-destroyed-a-clandestine-hindu-temple-in-riyadh/#comment-5449 Joe Nobody Sun, 03 Apr 2005 10:12:24 +0000 /?p=499#comment-5449 Dear Haitham, [quote]As far as the opinions reflected here, they are all respected. But remains personal opinions. Most of them were not supported by any facts or enough logic to convert me.[/quote] Sorry that you feel bad(?) about the whole thing, but I guess this is how it should be, you started a personal "opinion", definitely, it will be replied on with other people's opinion, some base on facts, other based on their own perspective on things. You have yours, they have or we have ours too, the thing is, we have to respect each others opinion. If you may differ in beliefs or religion, still we are all human beings gifted with brains that gives us freedom to think what is right and what's wrong. We live in a world where there are various types of interest - personal or as a general population. Whatever happened in Riyadh has been viewed by authorities and the local population as deemed necessary to protect the general population in this specific demographic. Then, you have your opinion, they have theirs too. Let's respect that. [quote]OK guys, sorry to disappoint you here. In fact in this blog you will hear most of the time, “WHAT YOU USUALY DON’T WANT TO HEAR. THE TRUTH.”[/quote] Everyone wants to hear the truth. You say, you're a muslim... therefore, you already know what is the TRUTH, as far as I know, the truth is your religion... and that's ISLAM. Would you believe me if I tell you that I am not a muslim? I am just airing my opinion on things (just like you do) based on what is right and what is wrong according to my own / personal judgment and how I see things from where I stand. Bottom line is.... you set this blog as a congregation of various opinions from various people of various nationalities and cultures. So you have to expect that there would always different sides of any story.... requiring different views. Do not be disappointed, this thing is good, you started something good here. Keep up the good work. Kindest regards...... Joe Dear Haitham,

[quote]As far as the opinions reflected here, they are all respected. But remains personal opinions. Most of them were not supported by any facts or enough logic to convert me.[/quote]

Sorry that you feel bad(?) about the whole thing, but I guess this is how it should be, you started a personal “opinion”, definitely, it will be replied on with other people’s opinion, some base on facts, other based on their own perspective on things. You have yours, they have or we have ours too, the thing is, we have to respect each others opinion. If you may differ in beliefs or religion, still we are all human beings gifted with brains that gives us freedom to think what is right and what’s wrong. We live in a world where there are various types of interest - personal or as a general population. Whatever happened in Riyadh has been viewed by authorities and the local population as deemed necessary to protect the general population in this specific demographic. Then, you have your opinion, they have theirs too. Let’s respect that.

[quote]OK guys, sorry to disappoint you here. In fact in this blog you will hear most of the time, “WHAT YOU USUALY DON’T WANT TO HEAR. THE TRUTH.”[/quote]

Everyone wants to hear the truth. You say, you’re a muslim… therefore, you already know what is the TRUTH, as far as I know, the truth is your religion… and that’s ISLAM.

Would you believe me if I tell you that I am not a muslim? I am just airing my opinion on things (just like you do) based on what is right and what is wrong according to my own / personal judgment and how I see things from where I stand.

Bottom line is…. you set this blog as a congregation of various opinions from various people of various nationalities and cultures. So you have to expect that there would always different sides of any story…. requiring different views.

Do not be disappointed, this thing is good, you started something good here. Keep up the good work.

Kindest regards……

Joe

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