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		<title>By: Andrew Yu-Jen Wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Yu-Jen Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George W. Bush’s sentence-by-sentence speaking skills are deteriorating. Apparently, this may be due to a mental illness called “presenile dementia.” Bush may or may not be secretly still drinking heavily. Bush lied, and thousands of people died. Bush suffers from narcissism and megalomania. Moreover, Bush has been arrested three times. Bush was arrested for disorderly conduct. Bush was arrested for stealing. Bush was also arrested for a serious crime—driving under the influence of alcohol. There are reasons to believe that Bush suffers from a learning disability. Bush’s learning disability would explain a lot of things. All in all, Bush is a severely mentally ill individual. Bush is not fit to be the president of the United States.
 


	
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George W. Bush’s sentence-by-sentence speaking skills are deteriorating. Apparently, this may be due to a mental illness called “presenile dementia.” Bush may or may not be secretly still drinking heavily. Bush lied, and thousands of people died. Bush suffers from narcissism and megalomania. Moreover, Bush has been arrested three times. Bush was arrested for disorderly conduct. Bush was arrested for stealing. Bush was also arrested for a serious crime—driving under the influence of alcohol. There are reasons to believe that Bush suffers from a learning disability. Bush’s learning disability would explain a lot of things. All in all, Bush is a severely mentally ill individual. Bush is not fit to be the president of the United States.</p>
<p>Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang<br />
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996<br />
Messiah College, Grantham, PA</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For God's sake cover up that art.  

If we ever survive the onslaught of Jewish fascism in "the West" I can see we have a lot of work to do helping others escape from the tyranny in their heads.  The attitudes about nudity here are hilarious.  Since we grew up on the Greeks we get all our sex education from nude statues.  And almost all high art the other side of cubism regards nudity as the sacred.  The profanity is between our ears. 

I understand nudity serves as an advertisement of western decadence, but come on.  The woman is obviously saying the truth is naked.   I don't think anyone wants to cover up the truth. 

Get a grip people.  Of all the indecent stuff on Planet Earth naked women is not at the top of the list.

If getting naked in public would bring peace to the world, I would be completely naked right now.  Wouldn't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For God&#8217;s sake cover up that art.  </p>
<p>If we ever survive the onslaught of Jewish fascism in &#8220;the West&#8221; I can see we have a lot of work to do helping others escape from the tyranny in their heads.  The attitudes about nudity here are hilarious.  Since we grew up on the Greeks we get all our sex education from nude statues.  And almost all high art the other side of cubism regards nudity as the sacred.  The profanity is between our ears. </p>
<p>I understand nudity serves as an advertisement of western decadence, but come on.  The woman is obviously saying the truth is naked.   I don&#8217;t think anyone wants to cover up the truth. </p>
<p>Get a grip people.  Of all the indecent stuff on Planet Earth naked women is not at the top of the list.</p>
<p>If getting naked in public would bring peace to the world, I would be completely naked right now.  Wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Peace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize there are cultural differences and respect that. However here in the west nudity is not that "shocking". Only a little bit. Here is the reality:

1. If a protest is too "ordinary" the media ignore it.

2. If on the other hand the protest is (by the local culture's standards) too "shocking" then the message gets lost

3. If the protest is in between these two extremes, is can work very well: it is "different" enough that the media pay attention, but still the message of anti-war gets through.

If you disagree, then you personally don't have to participate. But any protest that does not kill innocent people, but does get attention, has the chance of helping change policy. There are many examples of successful protest (google for World Naked Bike Run, which promotes more bikes, less cars, and less burning of oil) that have gotten more media attention this way, and have done a lot of good in the world.

If even one single less child dies in war due to such nude protest, it is a good thing. Do you really think it's devine will that it's more important to cover up the body while children are bombed and die? Or that there is not very much room for such 'modesty' (and no "business as usual") while children, babies, women, and men are innocent civilian victims. Which is more important? And yes, these things do not work 100%, but these nude protests do work, and for every person who laughs and ignores the message, you can find two Americans who start to think  and listen to the anti-war pro-peace message.

Like others before her who have risked themselves to make a message, I honor her more (not less) for her actions. Yes we need poetry again war, we need marches, we need nonviolent actions, I also support street theater, humor ,songs, and other methods. But this too has a role when it can do more good than harm, as is the case here. Peace out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize there are cultural differences and respect that. However here in the west nudity is not that &#8220;shocking&#8221;. Only a little bit. Here is the reality:</p>
<p>1. If a protest is too &#8220;ordinary&#8221; the media ignore it.</p>
<p>2. If on the other hand the protest is (by the local culture&#8217;s standards) too &#8220;shocking&#8221; then the message gets lost</p>
<p>3. If the protest is in between these two extremes, is can work very well: it is &#8220;different&#8221; enough that the media pay attention, but still the message of anti-war gets through.</p>
<p>If you disagree, then you personally don&#8217;t have to participate. But any protest that does not kill innocent people, but does get attention, has the chance of helping change policy. There are many examples of successful protest (google for World Naked Bike Run, which promotes more bikes, less cars, and less burning of oil) that have gotten more media attention this way, and have done a lot of good in the world.</p>
<p>If even one single less child dies in war due to such nude protest, it is a good thing. Do you really think it&#8217;s devine will that it&#8217;s more important to cover up the body while children are bombed and die? Or that there is not very much room for such &#8216;modesty&#8217; (and no &#8220;business as usual&#8221;) while children, babies, women, and men are innocent civilian victims. Which is more important? And yes, these things do not work 100%, but these nude protests do work, and for every person who laughs and ignores the message, you can find two Americans who start to think  and listen to the anti-war pro-peace message.</p>
<p>Like others before her who have risked themselves to make a message, I honor her more (not less) for her actions. Yes we need poetry again war, we need marches, we need nonviolent actions, I also support street theater, humor ,songs, and other methods. But this too has a role when it can do more good than harm, as is the case here. Peace out.</p>
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		<title>By: Unimpressed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unimpressed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great way to protest if you're a caveman. These idiots have brought more attention to themselves and their nudity then the message they are trying to convey. Nothing good will come out this brazen display of far left wing stupidity.
If you're anti-war, support the resistance against Anglo-American fascists and terrorists and marching around with your pasty white ass in the buff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great way to protest if you&#8217;re a caveman. These idiots have brought more attention to themselves and their nudity then the message they are trying to convey. Nothing good will come out this brazen display of far left wing stupidity.<br />
If you&#8217;re anti-war, support the resistance against Anglo-American fascists and terrorists and marching around with your pasty white ass in the buff.</p>
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		<title>By: Ihsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ihsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm from Iraq, and I really astonished when I found those pictures of Hala on the net.
I think protesting against war is a noble thing, but showing your ass is different and gives wrong massege to the people.
after all the war occured, and yet Hala ass did nothing.
Maybe next time when US going to envade Syria, Hala should summen all of her female relatives and guther as much asses as she could to show to the world that Arab are no more than ASS PROTESTERS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Iraq, and I really astonished when I found those pictures of Hala on the net.<br />
I think protesting against war is a noble thing, but showing your ass is different and gives wrong massege to the people.<br />
after all the war occured, and yet Hala ass did nothing.<br />
Maybe next time when US going to envade Syria, Hala should summen all of her female relatives and guther as much asses as she could to show to the world that Arab are no more than ASS PROTESTERS</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Godiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Godiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Abu Cleo for your eloquent points, all well thought out.

People are throwing around words like "porn" and "prostitute" far too quickly and easily. Was Lady Godiva the same as "porn" or a "prostitute"? I don't think so, and neither is an artist conducting herself with dignity for peace, the same, or even close to, a cheap commercial girlie magazine, not by a mile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Abu Cleo for your eloquent points, all well thought out.</p>
<p>People are throwing around words like &#8220;porn&#8221; and &#8220;prostitute&#8221; far too quickly and easily. Was Lady Godiva the same as &#8220;porn&#8221; or a &#8220;prostitute&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think so, and neither is an artist conducting herself with dignity for peace, the same, or even close to, a cheap commercial girlie magazine, not by a mile.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is disrespecting women in all means, all nationalities, all raises, all religions. She should have done a big painiting about war in the middle of New York. or publish an article or a movie about how respectful arab women are. 

If she had a brain, she wouldn't have shown her body. 

Women are brains and intellectuality, not cheap bodies. what did she leave for prostitutes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is disrespecting women in all means, all nationalities, all raises, all religions. She should have done a big painiting about war in the middle of New York. or publish an article or a movie about how respectful arab women are. </p>
<p>If she had a brain, she wouldn&#8217;t have shown her body. </p>
<p>Women are brains and intellectuality, not cheap bodies. what did she leave for prostitutes?</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Cleo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abu Cleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least some people, such as Mr. Gandhi, are able to rise to the occasion and use reason instead of emotion to think through this issue. What Ms. Faisal did and what she continues to do is braver than all the Arabs and Muslims who sit in front of their TVs and say, Ya Allah, whenever some atrocity is committed against Arabs or Muslims -- often by other Arabs and Muslims.  Ms. Faisal is in a more free environment and chose to protest in a way that garnered attention but which also made a very important artistic and political point. It's ok to disagree with her; disagreement and dialogue allow for growth and change. But there comes a time when more radical action is needed. There is a long tradition of this in the USA and in Europe, and less so in the Arab lands (though it isn't invisible their either). So you choose: sit at home and moralize and justify acts of violence against and by your own people, or find a way to act that suits your abilities.  What are YOU doing to make the world a better place? Be the change that you would like to see in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least some people, such as Mr. Gandhi, are able to rise to the occasion and use reason instead of emotion to think through this issue. What Ms. Faisal did and what she continues to do is braver than all the Arabs and Muslims who sit in front of their TVs and say, Ya Allah, whenever some atrocity is committed against Arabs or Muslims &#8212; often by other Arabs and Muslims.  Ms. Faisal is in a more free environment and chose to protest in a way that garnered attention but which also made a very important artistic and political point. It&#8217;s ok to disagree with her; disagreement and dialogue allow for growth and change. But there comes a time when more radical action is needed. There is a long tradition of this in the USA and in Europe, and less so in the Arab lands (though it isn&#8217;t invisible their either). So you choose: sit at home and moralize and justify acts of violence against and by your own people, or find a way to act that suits your abilities.  What are YOU doing to make the world a better place? Be the change that you would like to see in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Salaam Shalom Gandhi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salaam Shalom Gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An important clarification: by "wrong" above I am not talking
about the religions themselves, and no offence is intended to brothers
and sisters who are Muslim, Christian, or Jewish. What is wrong is today's
understanding of those religions, and all three have still not reached
the understanding that the body is not to be ashamed of and covered up.

Had to google to find this website again as it's not among my regular sites.

But Salaam Shalom Gandhi's main point is the above, that to stop oppression
and suffering one has to be willing to take steps and I salute those who
do, and that sometimes people try to draw attention by actions and that
Hala Faisal's actions certainly were effective as drawing attention.
Blame mainstream media for not covering the issues so people have to
wear a funny suit, or pour red paint on the sidewalk, or go naked, or
the like, to get the media to cover things. Sometimes it's not effective,
but often it is. Peace to all, peace on earth, peace within our hearts,
peace among nations and among people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An important clarification: by &#8220;wrong&#8221; above I am not talking<br />
about the religions themselves, and no offence is intended to brothers<br />
and sisters who are Muslim, Christian, or Jewish. What is wrong is today&#8217;s<br />
understanding of those religions, and all three have still not reached<br />
the understanding that the body is not to be ashamed of and covered up.</p>
<p>Had to google to find this website again as it&#8217;s not among my regular sites.</p>
<p>But Salaam Shalom Gandhi&#8217;s main point is the above, that to stop oppression<br />
and suffering one has to be willing to take steps and I salute those who<br />
do, and that sometimes people try to draw attention by actions and that<br />
Hala Faisal&#8217;s actions certainly were effective as drawing attention.<br />
Blame mainstream media for not covering the issues so people have to<br />
wear a funny suit, or pour red paint on the sidewalk, or go naked, or<br />
the like, to get the media to cover things. Sometimes it&#8217;s not effective,<br />
but often it is. Peace to all, peace on earth, peace within our hearts,<br />
peace among nations and among people.</p>
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		<title>By: Salaam Shalom Gandhi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salaam Shalom Gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing...is you really do, truly want to understand 
what her naked protest was about, here is a great
article http://www.thevillager.com/villager_119/talkingpoint.html

 History is riddled with individual acts of civil disobedience that embody a larger moment in history  Rosa Parks refusing to move to the back of the bus, Quang Duc, the Buddhist monk who in 1963 famously lit himself on fire in Saigon, an image that came to symbolize the Vietnam War.

Yesterday it was one woman sitting in front of the presidents ranch, today it is one woman taking off her clothes in Washington Square Park, and tomorrow it will be somebody else, said Daniel Perez, Faisals pro-bono lawyer. Ultimately, it is going to force the Bush administration to cut its losses and get the hell out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing&#8230;is you really do, truly want to understand<br />
what her naked protest was about, here is a great<br />
article <a href="http://www.thevillager.com/villager_119/talkingpoint.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thevillager.com/villager_119/talkingpoint.html</a></p>
<p> History is riddled with individual acts of civil disobedience that embody a larger moment in history  Rosa Parks refusing to move to the back of the bus, Quang Duc, the Buddhist monk who in 1963 famously lit himself on fire in Saigon, an image that came to symbolize the Vietnam War.</p>
<p>Yesterday it was one woman sitting in front of the presidents ranch, today it is one woman taking off her clothes in Washington Square Park, and tomorrow it will be somebody else, said Daniel Perez, Faisals pro-bono lawyer. Ultimately, it is going to force the Bush administration to cut its losses and get the hell out.</p>
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