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	<title>Comments on: Bahrain Jews: We have more in Common than you think</title>
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		<title>By: And Far Away &#187; Mahmood&#8217;s Den: Blocked!</title>
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		<dc:creator>And Far Away &#187; Mahmood&#8217;s Den: Blocked!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The other sites on the list are just as depressing, because this is a sad signal that the Arab world is going backwards with tolerance years at a time. In 2005, Huda Azra Nono, a Jewish lady from the Bahraini Jewish community, was the president of Bahrain Human Rights Society. Today, a year later, Bahrain blocks the following sites: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The other sites on the list are just as depressing, because this is a sad signal that the Arab world is going backwards with tolerance years at a time. In 2005, Huda Azra Nono, a Jewish lady from the Bahraini Jewish community, was the president of Bahrain Human Rights Society. Today, a year later, Bahrain blocks the following sites: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] g notes how Muslims do not practice anti-semitism as the Westren media likes to advertise, and shares a bit of local news- &#8220;Bahrain Human [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: MENJ&#8217;s Critical Thoughts &#187; Arab Jews in Bahrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>MENJ&#8217;s Critical Thoughts &#187; Arab Jews in Bahrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...]                Arab Jews in Bahrain 03 Shaban 1426AH        	There are Arab Jews in Bahrain.  There goes the Zionist projec [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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<p> Arab Jews in Bahrain<br />
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		<title>By: Haitham</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/09/03/bahrain-jews-we-have-more-in-common-than-you-think/#comment-37127</link>
		<dc:creator>Haitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nameless today</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/09/03/bahrain-jews-we-have-more-in-common-than-you-think/#comment-36659</link>
		<dc:creator>nameless today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 03:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say you &quot;don’t see real attempt from the Jewish side to represent it (Zionism) in proper way&quot;. Sides? Proper? What happened to our generation. We were the ones who were supposed to live in a borderless paradise, weren&#039;t we. We were supposed to be accepting and non-judgmental and have flexible ideas about propriety, at least, this is what our war weary parents hoped to bestow on us. Didn&#039;t they? What happened.

You are right in some small way - I often hear the comfortable and privileged &quot;champions of democracy&quot; bagging Zionism in left wing forum (IRL and on the net) and rarely are they questioned. I can&#039;t pretend to speak for anyone else, but I can wonder if this is in part because Judaism (and Zionism does spring from Judaism even if not all jewish are zionist) is not really a religion that encourages people to go out and convert others. It is perhaps, in many ways, passive (in some ways maybe even a religion of passive resistance) while at the same time only too aware it is perceived by some others as the thorn in Christianities crown. You might say, that jews have learnt to keep their complaints to themselves. In this light it is unsurprising perhaps that others still, you might like to call them jewish extremists (I write that with a degree of satire I am not sure comes across very well) have questioned past passivism, and where it lead, and have chosen instead to take up arms. As you say, Palestinians and Israelis might have more in common then you might think.

(Bt, noticed you deleted the interim comment between my two previous ones).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say you &#8220;don’t see real attempt from the Jewish side to represent it (Zionism) in proper way&#8221;. Sides? Proper? What happened to our generation. We were the ones who were supposed to live in a borderless paradise, weren&#8217;t we. We were supposed to be accepting and non-judgmental and have flexible ideas about propriety, at least, this is what our war weary parents hoped to bestow on us. Didn&#8217;t they? What happened.</p>
<p>You are right in some small way &#8211; I often hear the comfortable and privileged &#8220;champions of democracy&#8221; bagging Zionism in left wing forum (IRL and on the net) and rarely are they questioned. I can&#8217;t pretend to speak for anyone else, but I can wonder if this is in part because Judaism (and Zionism does spring from Judaism even if not all jewish are zionist) is not really a religion that encourages people to go out and convert others. It is perhaps, in many ways, passive (in some ways maybe even a religion of passive resistance) while at the same time only too aware it is perceived by some others as the thorn in Christianities crown. You might say, that jews have learnt to keep their complaints to themselves. In this light it is unsurprising perhaps that others still, you might like to call them jewish extremists (I write that with a degree of satire I am not sure comes across very well) have questioned past passivism, and where it lead, and have chosen instead to take up arms. As you say, Palestinians and Israelis might have more in common then you might think.</p>
<p>(Bt, noticed you deleted the interim comment between my two previous ones).</p>
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		<title>By: Haitham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you got me wrong here. What I was trying to say is that this is not how Zionist are presented to this part of the world.

In fact a recent discussion between me and a Jewish friend, I can to understand that there are two different type of zionists. Unfortunately the extremist one is what we all know about.

maybe you can enlighten us of the other side. I&#039;m sure they may help a little to establish a base for constructive conversation.

After all, extremist are rejected by all. Being an Islamists one or Jewish one or anyone else.

I think we have a listen here to learn. Assuming that the other side knows all what you are talking about is wrong. In this case, Zionism is the critical topics, yet, I don&#039;t see real attempt from the Jewish side to represent it in proper way, specially that now it is evident that each side seems to miss something about the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you got me wrong here. What I was trying to say is that this is not how Zionist are presented to this part of the world.</p>
<p>In fact a recent discussion between me and a Jewish friend, I can to understand that there are two different type of zionists. Unfortunately the extremist one is what we all know about.</p>
<p>maybe you can enlighten us of the other side. I&#8217;m sure they may help a little to establish a base for constructive conversation.</p>
<p>After all, extremist are rejected by all. Being an Islamists one or Jewish one or anyone else.</p>
<p>I think we have a listen here to learn. Assuming that the other side knows all what you are talking about is wrong. In this case, Zionism is the critical topics, yet, I don&#8217;t see real attempt from the Jewish side to represent it in proper way, specially that now it is evident that each side seems to miss something about the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: nameless today</title>
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		<dc:creator>nameless today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t see your definition applies today.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

How so much does that sound like someone saying &quot;well yesterday Islam was ok but in our time it is all about 9-11&quot;.

Interminable irony, I bet you support fighting for rights don&#039;t you - oh yes, so long as it&#039;s your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I don&#8217;t see your definition applies today.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How so much does that sound like someone saying &#8220;well yesterday Islam was ok but in our time it is all about 9-11&#8243;.</p>
<p>Interminable irony, I bet you support fighting for rights don&#8217;t you &#8211; oh yes, so long as it&#8217;s your own.</p>
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		<title>By: nameless today</title>
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		<dc:creator>nameless today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will hate me for this. I am always disturbed when I hear or read people priding themselves on having distinguished the difference between Judaism and Zionism. It often reminds me of the saying &quot;some of my best friends are...&quot; followed by &quot;but they are not like the others&quot; or something similar. Zionism is different, but so many people seem to misunderstand it - or at least, understand it differently. Sometimes I suspect people don&#039;t understand it all.

These are my understandings; Zion is a concept rather then a place, invented by people with no place. It is a sort of dream haven for the disenfranchised. A bit like the internet was supposed to be once, where all people of loss are welcome, regardless of origin. It was a kind of escape route for the mind, and many who dreamed it were what you might call &quot;secular&quot;, not especially orthodox, and perhaps a little rebellious. It&#039;s just miserable that the original ideal has been twisted and warped by people higher up the chain who seem to have forgotten what it&#039;s all about, and by people lower down the chain who so easily learn to fear what they are told to. And everyone in the middle gets squished into hushing up about it, for fear of retribution.

I get depressed everytime the topic is raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will hate me for this. I am always disturbed when I hear or read people priding themselves on having distinguished the difference between Judaism and Zionism. It often reminds me of the saying &#8220;some of my best friends are&#8230;&#8221; followed by &#8220;but they are not like the others&#8221; or something similar. Zionism is different, but so many people seem to misunderstand it &#8211; or at least, understand it differently. Sometimes I suspect people don&#8217;t understand it all.</p>
<p>These are my understandings; Zion is a concept rather then a place, invented by people with no place. It is a sort of dream haven for the disenfranchised. A bit like the internet was supposed to be once, where all people of loss are welcome, regardless of origin. It was a kind of escape route for the mind, and many who dreamed it were what you might call &#8220;secular&#8221;, not especially orthodox, and perhaps a little rebellious. It&#8217;s just miserable that the original ideal has been twisted and warped by people higher up the chain who seem to have forgotten what it&#8217;s all about, and by people lower down the chain who so easily learn to fear what they are told to. And everyone in the middle gets squished into hushing up about it, for fear of retribution.</p>
<p>I get depressed everytime the topic is raised.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabbah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabbah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] though it haven&#8217;t resulted in a single comment on any of my posts that he links to, which he like to describe as &amp;#822 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mobius</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/09/03/bahrain-jews-we-have-more-in-common-than-you-think/#comment-34401</link>
		<dc:creator>mobius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> i&#039;m doing that to palestinians?&#160; i&#039;m an anti-occupation activist.&#160; my own family accuses me of being a race traitor.&#160; give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> i&#8217;m doing that to palestinians?&nbsp; i&#8217;m an anti-occupation activist.&nbsp; my own family accuses me of being a race traitor.&nbsp; give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Haitham</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2005/09/03/bahrain-jews-we-have-more-in-common-than-you-think/#comment-34085</link>
		<dc:creator>Haitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; OK, we know all that. So? Am I suppose to feel guilty?&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Not to forget that you did and are still doing the same and more to Palestinians.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Maybe you will benefit from reading:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.palestineremembered.com/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.palestineremembered.com/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&#160;
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> OK, we know all that. So? Am I suppose to feel guilty?<b></b>
</p>
<p><b>Not to forget that you did and are still doing the same and more to Palestinians.</b><b></b>
</p>
<p><b>Maybe you will benefit from reading:</b> <a href="http://www.palestineremembered.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.palestineremembered.com/index.html</a>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: mobius</title>
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		<dc:creator>mobius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> You may benefit from reading:&#160;Why Jews Fled the Arab Countries &lt;b&gt; by Ya&#039;akov Meron&lt;/b&gt;http://www.meforum.org/article/263and&#160;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_landsaOf course we have plenty in common.&#160; We used to make up sizeable portions of all your countries&#039; populations.&#160; Half the Jews in Israel are Mizrahi.&#160; They came from Arab nations and speak Arabic.&#160; But they got sick of being oppressed, and opted instead for their own freedom.&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> You may benefit from reading:&nbsp;Why Jews Fled the Arab Countries <b> by Ya&#8217;akov Meron</b><a href="http://www.meforum.org/article/263and&nbsp;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_landsaOf" rel="nofollow">http://www.meforum.org/article/263and&nbsp;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_landsaOf</a> course we have plenty in common.&nbsp; We used to make up sizeable portions of all your countries&#8217; populations.&nbsp; Half the Jews in Israel are Mizrahi.&nbsp; They came from Arab nations and speak Arabic.&nbsp; But they got sick of being oppressed, and opted instead for their own freedom.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: New Bahran</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Bahran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The facts are clear Ann from New York and Livine from Ca.

Jews were not wanted in Europe after the bolchevick revolution, the Balfour treaty in 1917 solved just that problem by appointing a territory occupied by the British as a land of refuge for Jewish refugees.

What it has done over the years is create an abyss between the only 2 people of this world of semitic origin.

Many ashkenazims conveniently forget this and try to make up for it by focusing their views and those of others on fallacies. But don&#039;t kid yourself, Arab, jews, Christians and muslilms are not easily duped like the majority of westerners who onnly fund your deeds so that they can get rid of you.

After all the far right is not an arab invention and nor was the spanish inquisition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The facts are clear Ann from New York and Livine from Ca.</p>
<p>Jews were not wanted in Europe after the bolchevick revolution, the Balfour treaty in 1917 solved just that problem by appointing a territory occupied by the British as a land of refuge for Jewish refugees.</p>
<p>What it has done over the years is create an abyss between the only 2 people of this world of semitic origin.</p>
<p>Many ashkenazims conveniently forget this and try to make up for it by focusing their views and those of others on fallacies. But don&#8217;t kid yourself, Arab, jews, Christians and muslilms are not easily duped like the majority of westerners who onnly fund your deeds so that they can get rid of you.</p>
<p>After all the far right is not an arab invention and nor was the spanish inquisition.</p>
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		<title>By: New Bahran</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Bahran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a new resident to Bahrain, I am pleased to say that never in my life have I seen such wonderful coexistance of all Jews, Chrisitans and Muslims. It embodies for me the culture Arabs have and can offer to the rest of the world. 

Respect, courtesy and consideration without highlighting the difference in faith but rather our rich cultural heritage.

We readily forget, that Bahrain was on the map of the world long before Rome was even a thought in anyone&#039;s mind. 

Why is it that western media never speaks of these facts instead of adding unecessary fuel to the present fires. 

It makes one understand the perspective of western media, with a main scope not to inform but rather to destroy through biased and malicious syndication.

Bahrain, you make me proud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a new resident to Bahrain, I am pleased to say that never in my life have I seen such wonderful coexistance of all Jews, Chrisitans and Muslims. It embodies for me the culture Arabs have and can offer to the rest of the world. </p>
<p>Respect, courtesy and consideration without highlighting the difference in faith but rather our rich cultural heritage.</p>
<p>We readily forget, that Bahrain was on the map of the world long before Rome was even a thought in anyone&#8217;s mind. </p>
<p>Why is it that western media never speaks of these facts instead of adding unecessary fuel to the present fires. </p>
<p>It makes one understand the perspective of western media, with a main scope not to inform but rather to destroy through biased and malicious syndication.</p>
<p>Bahrain, you make me proud!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne from New York City</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne from New York City</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to comment on the last several comments...I want to get back to the original subject of religion: I have become very interested in the comparative study of religion and one thing I have noticed is that the current practices of Christianity and Islam have little resemblance to the original teachings. If you read the New Testament, you can see that what Jesus emphasized, peace and love and tolerance, has little in common with what  Christians focus on today. As for Islam, I&#039;ve read most of the Koran, but I didn&#039;t come across any passages that said women have to wrap their heads in scarves. Nor did I find the passages that said thieves should have their hands chopped off or adulterers should be stoned... Most religions started as progressive movements for their times but all became perverted by cultures that decided to ignore spiritual values and revert to ancient hierarchical values of might makes right and oppression, control and exploitation of the weak. As for Judaism, it seems to have kept a lot of its original emphasis on tribalism and territorial conquest for the benefit of the Jewish people. I find Judaism to be a very different religion from Christianity and Islam, which were designed to be univeral, but sadly, over time, Christianity and Islam have devolved more and more into tribalism and have become more like Judaism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to comment on the last several comments&#8230;I want to get back to the original subject of religion: I have become very interested in the comparative study of religion and one thing I have noticed is that the current practices of Christianity and Islam have little resemblance to the original teachings. If you read the New Testament, you can see that what Jesus emphasized, peace and love and tolerance, has little in common with what  Christians focus on today. As for Islam, I&#8217;ve read most of the Koran, but I didn&#8217;t come across any passages that said women have to wrap their heads in scarves. Nor did I find the passages that said thieves should have their hands chopped off or adulterers should be stoned&#8230; Most religions started as progressive movements for their times but all became perverted by cultures that decided to ignore spiritual values and revert to ancient hierarchical values of might makes right and oppression, control and exploitation of the weak. As for Judaism, it seems to have kept a lot of its original emphasis on tribalism and territorial conquest for the benefit of the Jewish people. I find Judaism to be a very different religion from Christianity and Islam, which were designed to be univeral, but sadly, over time, Christianity and Islam have devolved more and more into tribalism and have become more like Judaism.</p>
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