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Fat Old Jewish Guy Who Lives In The Projects says:

"People want to know what I, a Jewish guy, think about Israel. The territory that is known to many as Palestine had been peopled by Arabic speaking folks for centuries, mainly they were Muslims, many were Christians, and a few of them Jewish too. Most of those people were kicked out of their lands and homes in 1948 by people like David Ben Gurion and Ariel Sharon and more were expelled in 1967. They are the ones who have a right to return, not me." [Hat tip: umkahlil]

Not under Israel's racist 'Law of Return', they don't. Enacted on 5th July 1950, it affords to every member of the "Jewish people" born anywhere in the world the presumed right to immigrate to Israel and become a citizen upon arrival. At the same time, it denies this right to Palestinian Muslims and Christians who were born in Palestine and expelled during the successive wars of occupation.

Related post: I am Jewish! [Hat tip: Firas]

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  1. firas | December 2, 2005 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Hi Haitham,

    Can you please add this link to "Possible Related Posts"?
    http://iheartamman.blogspot.com/2005/10/i-am-jewish.html

  2. umkahlil | December 2, 2005 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Firas, I'd also like to point out in response to your link (I didn't post there because the story was from a while back) that Dr. Salman Abu Sitta has shown how feasible it is for the refugees to return to their villages although we often hear the racist comment that the return of the refugees spells the end of the Jewish state or the erroneous claim that there is not room for the Jews and the Palestinians together. Much of the land from which the Palestinians were expelled is not populated, Dr. Abu Sitta shows. He shows that it could work, yet despite the Palestinians inalienable right to return and the feasiblity Israel still blocks the return. There is no other term for this than racism; yet the racist proponenets of Zionism are quick with the anti-Semitism smears.

  3. Haitham | December 2, 2005 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Firas. The 'possible related posts' is an automated script that links to internal links.

    However, I'll tell what, I'll add that link of your at the end of the original post, how about that ;-)

  4. Abu Sinan | December 2, 2005 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Have you guys ever heard of these people? The MOST religious of the Jews do not support Israel, and in the US regularly demonstrate against it. They have been run out of Israel, arrested, deport and tortured.

    http://www.nkusa.org Is their web site. Nice pictures of very observant Jews with signs denouncing Israel and supporting Palestinians.

  5. Ibraham Av | December 4, 2005 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    The most religious of Jews fully support Israel. The NK is just a misguide group that have the right to express their opinion, no matter how wrong.

  6. Rachel | December 4, 2005 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    I don't think it's accurate to call the "right of return" racist per se, because it's not based on race or ethnicity. The right of return isn't a racial right, it's a religious one. There exist Jews of many races around the world. Black Jews, white Jews, Asian Jews, Arab Jews (etc.) and the right of return applies to all of them.

    I do think the "right of return" policy poses some interesting challenges, and I understand why it's problematic for Palestinians who feel angry that they don't feel welcome in Israel while Jews from around the world are welcomed. And I know that many people, Palestinians among them, question whether Israel can be simultaneously a democracy and a religious state. These are all worth talking about. But calling the right of return "racist" doesn't help the dialogue, in my opinion.

    Thanks for listening to my perspective.

  7. umkahlil | December 5, 2005 at 2:57 am | Permalink

    Calling the "right of return 'racist' doesn't help the dialogue."

    Well, what would you call it? Very lovely to be polite and all but Palestinians can not be buried in the towns of their birth because they are not the right religion. Yasir Arafat wasn't allowed by the Arab killer Sharon to be buried in Jerusalem. No amount of doublespeak negates the racism of not being able to return to the town of one's birth to be buried.. The American Mobius deleted my comment on his blog because he apparently thought that I was denigrating the Canadian Lisa by pointing out that my friends from Jaffa, indigenous to Palestine, could not return to the place of their birth, but Mobius and Lisa, from the US and Canada could just traipse on over to Palestine and become instant citizens. In fact, the "stupid" Mobius (boy that's an understatement, Haitham) loves to look for anti-Semitism among Palestinians and loves to tell them exactly how they should feel about suicide bombing. He also likes to accuse us of not telling the truth about our roots in Palestine. Well, he "stands with us" so we must toe his reprehensible Zionist line and fit his notion of what a "good" Palestinian is. This is the Palestine expert, who said that he'd never heard of Zionists destroying mosques.

    Jews so-called self-determination has come at the expense of the indigenous people. And it's not self-determination; it may not "help" dialogue but let's call it what it is, colonial racism. And I do not believe that the Jews have a right to self-determination on property that they stole. Enough with being polite; I've had my fill of hate-filled Zionists this weekend going out of their way to discredit any activist who is not a "house" Palestinian. Our children are being killed, our land is being stolen, and all sorts of human rights are being violated and have been violated for more than fifty-seven years because of racist colonialism.

    Thanks for listening to my perspective.

  8. Abu Sinan | December 5, 2005 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Racist might not be the exact word, sectarian is, but what is the difference, exactly?

  9. Rachel | December 6, 2005 at 4:45 am | Permalink

    Abu Sinan, to me there is a great difference between racism and sectarianism.

    If one wants to question Israel's right of return policies, isn't it better to do so on legitimate grounds? I think there's a real conversation to be had about whether it's possible to be both a democracy and a religious state…but if one begins by asserting racism instead of by engaging the reality of the religious question, I don't think the conversation will go far.

  10. umkahlil | December 6, 2005 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    It does not matter what it is called; the ploy of the Zionists is to nitpick every little nuance and engage in semantics while continuing to ethnically cleanse Palestinians. The civil and human rights of the Palestinians have been and continue to be violated for over fifty-seven years. There is nothing legitimate about Israel's policy, period. Anyone who continues this discourse obfuscates the issue and falls right into the trap of dissembling Zionists.

  11. Tovya | December 8, 2005 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Racist? You've got to be kidding me. Racism was invented by the goyim, and we have just gotten keen to survival. Keep the Arabs out of Jewish lands, they just want to kill us anyway. They could care less about living in a democratic country.

  12. Abu Sinan | December 8, 2005 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Toyval-Racism was invented by the goyim, and we have just gotten keen to survival.

    Hum, you must have forgotten the unfortunate passages in the Old Testament where God commands you to wipe out whole groups of people, down to the men, women, children, and in some cases animals.

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