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By: Jihad And The City » I hate you, my ENEMY!

Jihad And The City » I hate you, my ENEMY! — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:11:49 +0000

[...] on, all kind of resistance, since this is the only option I?m left with. Few months ago, I risked many friends enable to make new friends, Zionist friends, but guess what; they (Zion [...]

By: blackfeline

blackfeline — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:11:44 +0000

Haitham,

so u are suggesting he should stick to picking his peanuts? lol..just kidding:)

By: Haitham

Haitham — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:22:09 +0000

blackfeline,

I have no take on what he said. All peace loving mankind would not argue anything of what he said. However, he remembered to mention the killing of the innocents by the suicide bombers, but he missed to mention the killing of the innocents by the Israeli Occupation Forces.

Anyway, what he said counts for nothing. He is just an ex., and no body listens to such people. Leaders should have the juts to say all this and more when they are in office, not when they are out!

By: Mougly

Mougly — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:10:23 +0000

I never heard those comments but I think he is right on all counts, although he should have also mentioned that the Israeli forces should stop killing civilians and demolishing homes regardless of who they are trying to get.

You know many people thought and still think that Egypt was wrong to sign a peace treaty with Israel, I would like them to think about this…it was the only country in the Middle East to recover the land it lost during the 67 war (Siena), not to forget the economical gain from tourism. At least until the fanatics started to attack tour buses.
And back in 94 when Jordan signed the treaty just think how much money started to flow into it’s economy just from the tourists entering through Israel….By the way I was there during that time and had the pleasure of visiting Jordan where I spent a month traveling through it, something that was not possible before.

The last point I would like to make is, we both know that Israel regardless of how it was established in going away, nor can we expect all the Israelis to just pack up and leave…it just will not happen….we also know and agree that the Palestinians have the right to live on their ancestral land, in peace and with dignity… asking the new Palestinian government to recognize the right for Israel to exist it not unreasonable, and trying a new more peaceful approach to the problem may prove to be the best way to solve it.

By: blackfeline

blackfeline — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:33:23 +0000

Haitham,

Recently, former US president Jimmy Carter made the following observation of the Palestinian election in January under the title: Colonisation of Palestine hinders peace…3 key points were made in the article. What’s your take?
“….we need not give up hope for permanent peace for Israelis and freedom and justice for Palestinians if three basic premises are honoured:
1. Israel’s right to exist…and to live in peace..must be recognised and accepted by Palestinians and all other neighbours
2. The killing of innocent people by suicide bombs or other acts of violence cannot be condoned, and;
3. Palestinians must live in peace and dignity, and permanent Israelis settlements on their land are a major obstacle to this goal

By: Mougly

Mougly — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:10:10 +0000

There is a question I always ask, when will our so called leaders finally realize that the way they have been trying to solve the Palestinian issue for the past 50+ years is not working nor will it ever work? When will they begin to try a new idea?

Peace

By: Haitham

Haitham — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:34:20 +0000

Mougly, my friend, I’m glad you made it to this old post.

The words in this post is what I’m trying to live by since then. I lost many friends because of what I said here, but gained a lot more.

I know it is not an easy job to get people ask these questions, but more important is how we answer them. This is what I’m try to do in this blog, and I hope commenters can help in building bridges rather than fighting with no objective but spreading hate.

I’m trying my best to be tolerant as much as I can, and wish that all do same. This is the only way we can keep the dialogue going on and understanding from both sides grow to an instant that won’t be shacked by the daily bad news.

By: Mougly

Mougly — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:00:30 +0000

Haitham, thank you for the post, I must admit that I was wrong about you, and for that I apologize…the questions you raise are some which I’ve often asked.

I find it default to believe that some people are upset with you for raising these questions…I guess they missed the point…

Now the question is how do we get others to ask these questions?

By: kimmy

kimmy — Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:52:01 +0000

It is easier to hate because then you don’t have to discuss anything. As a non-believer I find this site more understanding than any I have ever visited. I want to understand religion so I can make a desicion as to who is right. Both Christianity and Islam have made great arguments. GWB’s religion was on a website and it scared me. Islam is scaring me because some radicals are killing innocent people.
Who is right? I have no idea!
Obviously God will decide.
Reading the Qu’ran and the Bible has left me wondering what the parables are telling me. Talking to Muslims in Canada has left me wondering what is the truth. With a Christian brother-in-law in the US has left me wondering the truth. He hates the Muslims.
I don’t hate anyone. Can’t we live together in understanding?
Can’t we talk and accept each other?
As long as Bush is in power we cannot talk because he won’t allow it. I will not appologise for Bush. He is a radical Christian.
Your website is an eyeopener and a great insight into Islam.

By: Haitham

Haitham — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:38:45 +0000

Thank you Robin. Glad to see that you made here to this post. I’m sure you learned more now about me and my perspectives and where my writing comes from.

Cheers!

By: Haitham

Haitham — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:43:36 +0000

Thank you, Dina!

It is honor meeting you too.

I know what you mean about similar issues in India. I’ve done my B.E. in BIT’s, and lived in India from 1986 to 1990. I lived through the conflicts you are talking about, seen riots and killing in the streets, witnessed attempts to destroy temples and mosques, saw how dividend India is because of all the ethnic issues. It is really sad and heart breaking.

Who knows, maybe one day we’ll read all this in history books. If not us, maybe our kids.

Amen!

By: Dina Mehta

Dina Mehta — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:26:38 +0000

Haitham … it was great meeting you in London. And this post makes me feel really honoured to be able to say you’re a friend. We have similar issues in India between Hindus and Muslims — and I’d urge all those with polarised opinions on conflicts based in ethnicity to read your post and learn. It is sheer grace and constructive in its vision. Thank you!

By: Haitham

Haitham — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:53:48 +0000

Thank you, Andy.

I’m very glad that almost everyone now is moved by the discussion on this post.

Was not easy at the beginning, but now peace is floating. Hope the same spreads around, and I’m sure it will.

You missed the fun in London. Yallah, maybe soon elsewhere we can meet.

All the best.

By: andy carvin

andy carvin — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:11:03 +0000

Hi Haitham,

I really don’t know what to say except thank you, both for your original post and the way you’ve facilitated the follow-up comments. It’s the most moving post I’ve seen in a long, long time. I’m truly sorry I didn’t come to London last week.

peace,
andy