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In reviewing the discourse between you severally, concerning “Islam”, if I may be so bold, there appears to be a rather remarkable addendum altogether to your meaning in the ideas of “seek” and “knowledge”….and allow me to perhaps point out that I’d missed what may be better thought of as “capitalized” words, lending the more strict and easily noticable term, as I was careful to do in my first post with the word “Teachings”–but I’ll not digress from my responsibility in either manner.

If I understand you now correctly, “knowledge” or “Knowledge” is perhaps indeed what one “seeks” or “Seeks”….but contrary to as we do here in America by just “asking” of learned and respected peers-such as yourselves etc, I take it that you’re really saying “read” or “Read”, or I would now suppose, to perhaps have instruction from The Imam(?I’m uncertain here) in The Mosque…and most certainly not from casual conversation, regardless of the integrity of the participants.

My defensive emotions tenured me that I would remain thus as I was faced with a couple of phrases that in some conversations are considered a little towards the aggressive, while in others, “extremely” aggressive; Hence: “people like you must…” and followed by the: “I suggest you think before you speak sir”.
(which, come to think about it, might be “proper” and “polite” in your vernacular…..”WOW”…wouldn’t that be something to behold!)

I truly believe by examining the “heart of the matter” that such was not your intention and in effect it was I who have insulted you…and compounded by my own expertise, and the advantage in language, with which it’s been proven to be a further extension of ignorance on my part by failing also as a “hosting citizen”;

It appears Sir, that it is “I” who owe you a deep apology! I hope that you can forgive this vain, and ignorant trespass and additionally feel free to enumerate anything I’ve missed, as it’s certainly not my day for hosting, perhaps a lesson in manners is better the remedy.

Incidentally, my reference to the term “Mujahhadin” is in deference; Either way, and to your conjoined resolve, and by that I mean the several of you–it’s “not easy” I see speaking “English” to English speakers such as myself!

“Forked-tongue” (playing with meaning)& “cub”(youngster) are more in the defiant vein and would appear to apply only to your “newly learned” humble servant—”me”!

Lastly, Haitham, you are a patient fellow! You also have my deep apology! And with that Gentlemen, I’ll bid leave.
–JV