Comments on: Israeli attack church in Nazareth http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/ Because Silence is Complicity! Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:10:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Haitham http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-335079 Haitham Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:45:24 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-335079 lisa, You can't be serious by posting a reply to a comment, which older than a year and expecting a reply from Hanan! lisa,

You can’t be serious by posting a reply to a comment, which older than a year and expecting a reply from Hanan!

]]> By: lisa http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-335067 lisa Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:41:23 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-335067 Hanan, very sorry sorry excuse for two people who have a difficult life with all this about their kids being taken. WELL that means that all the palestinians who have lost their beloved ones (difference is DEATH ) then have the right to attack israelis ??? or one rule for different people? Hanan, very sorry sorry excuse for two people who have a difficult life with all this about their kids being taken. WELL that means that all the palestinians who have lost their beloved ones (difference is DEATH ) then have the right to attack israelis ??? or one rule for different people?

]]> By: The Skeptic ?????? » Cease-Fire, Please http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-207923 The Skeptic ?????? » Cease-Fire, Please Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:38:55 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-207923 [...] Wed 2 Aug 2006 Cease-Fire, Please Posted by The Skeptic under Region  Please stop this. Now. Figure out what prisoners will be swapped later. Figu [...] [...] Wed 2 Aug 2006 Cease-Fire, Please Posted by The Skeptic under Region  Please stop this. Now. Figure out what prisoners will be swapped later. Figu [...]

]]> By: Shandor http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-106643 Shandor Fri, 19 May 2006 03:04:56 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-106643 Robin, Joachim was right, please do seek psychiatric help, it may be too late.. The point that Joachim was making, is that break news reporting may be inconsistent and incomplete, with atribution not being clear in the first altercation of a news cycle. However, eventually retrospective analysis of the issue will get it right. With regards to Palestinian claims of media bias towards Israelis, I will say but of course. Why should Western media support uneducated, corrupt, chaotic, radical fundamentalist society cannot get it together? It is not Israelis that keep Palestinians and Arabs down, its Arab ineptitude as a society, and Arab "love" for their Palestinian brothers, which does not allow them to extend the rights of citizenship to Palestinians living in their countries that is destroying whatever "sufferer" image that Palestinians may have had with the Western media. In any case, Robin, I am not sure what pills can help in your case, but you are just as biased as any one of us, so cry on, cry on. Robin, Joachim was right, please do seek psychiatric help, it may be too late.. The point that Joachim was making, is that break news reporting may be inconsistent and incomplete, with atribution not being clear in the first altercation of a news cycle. However, eventually retrospective analysis of the issue will get it right. With regards to Palestinian claims of media bias towards Israelis, I will say but of course. Why should Western media support uneducated, corrupt, chaotic, radical fundamentalist society cannot get it together? It is not Israelis that keep Palestinians and Arabs down, its Arab ineptitude as a society, and Arab “love” for their Palestinian brothers, which does not allow them to extend the rights of citizenship to Palestinians living in their countries that is destroying whatever “sufferer” image that Palestinians may have had with the Western media. In any case, Robin, I am not sure what pills can help in your case, but you are just as biased as any one of us, so cry on, cry on.

]]> By: kimmy http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-61175 kimmy Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:09:43 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-61175 Mougly, I also wish for the day that all people can live together and accept each other, no matter of their religious views. It will sure help us atheists. Yes, I am an atheist, but I love all people. I don't question religion, colour, gender or creed. I only see the person I am dealing with. My wife says that I am too trusting. Yes I am, because most of the people I deal with are worthy of that trust. If that trust is failed, I keep trusting because I believe that trust should be carried on. I am self-employed. My trust can lose me money. I would rather lose money from a few distrustful people than scew all people for as much money as possible. I sleep peacefully at night knowing the small amount of money I made was honestly made. In my trade I should make 50 to 60 thou a year after taxes. I am lucky if I make 15 thou. But I sleep at night. Sorry if I am rambling on. Mougly,
I also wish for the day that all people can live together and accept each other, no matter of their religious views. It will sure help us atheists. Yes, I am an atheist, but I love all people.
I don’t question religion, colour, gender or creed. I only see the person I am dealing with. My wife says that I am too trusting. Yes I am, because most of the people I deal with are worthy of that trust.
If that trust is failed, I keep trusting because I believe that trust should be carried on. I am self-employed. My trust can lose me money. I would rather lose money from a few distrustful people than scew all people for as much money as possible. I sleep peacefully at night knowing the small amount of money I made was honestly made.
In my trade I should make 50 to 60 thou a year after taxes. I am lucky if I make 15 thou. But I sleep at night.
Sorry if I am rambling on.

]]> By: Mougly http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-60139 Mougly Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:35:23 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-60139 I long for the day in which I am able to again walk the streets of old Jerusalem, Nabless, and Bethlehem without any fear or apprehension as I once did with my mother as a child. I hope that the Israelis and Palestinians can learn to share the tinny but beautiful land thy occupy. I long for the day in which I am able to again walk the streets of old Jerusalem, Nabless, and Bethlehem without any fear or apprehension as I once did with my mother as a child.

I hope that the Israelis and Palestinians can learn to share the tinny but beautiful land thy occupy.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » From the Jordanian Blogosphere http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59871 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » From the Jordanian Blogosphere Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:37:09 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59871 [...] and civil freedoms.” Meanwhile, the Jordanian blogosphere is also very angry at the Israeli attack on the Church of Annunciation in neighboring Palestine [...] [...] and civil freedoms.” Meanwhile, the Jordanian blogosphere is also very angry at the Israeli attack on the Church of Annunciation in neighboring Palestine [...]

]]> By: Robin http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59619 Robin Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:11:14 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59619 Mougley, I agree with what you agree with too. It is absolutely a crime when the media is unbalanced and biased. I would hope that whoever did this, even if he were a demented (perhaps not the best choice of words) Arab, Buddhist or Hottentot, that he or she would recieve fair treatment. But I just reread Haitham's post and I think he was trying to say that an excuse of insanity was being made for and accepted easier than if it was a Palestinian. I think that is the point, the inbalance in treatment towards this perpetrator based on special treatment. Heck, I don't know. I don't have a personal dog in this arguement, I just know that when a people has suffered such injustice for such a long time, one assumes the same in this case. As I witness the emotions on both sides from all of you, I feel powerless and intrusive for even raising my voice. Hoping and praying on my or anyones part will do no good whatsoever, a political solution MUST be found to bring peace to this area. I wish you all well but I wish more for justice. Mougley,
I agree with what you agree with too. It is absolutely a crime when the media is unbalanced and biased. I would hope that whoever did this, even if he were a demented (perhaps not the best choice of words) Arab, Buddhist or Hottentot, that he or she would recieve fair treatment. But I just reread Haitham’s post and I think he was trying to say that an excuse of insanity was being made for and accepted easier than if it was a Palestinian. I think that is the point, the inbalance in treatment towards this perpetrator based on special treatment. Heck, I don’t know. I don’t have a personal dog in this arguement, I just know that when a people has suffered such injustice for such a long time, one assumes the same in this case. As I witness the emotions on both sides from all of you, I feel powerless and intrusive for even raising my voice.
Hoping and praying on my or anyones part will do no good whatsoever, a political solution MUST be found to bring peace to this area.
I wish you all well but I wish more for justice.

]]> By: Mougly http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59507 Mougly Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:32:54 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59507 In some ways I agree with Haitham, if this was a Palestinian, who had done this, it would have been in the headlines all over the western media, it is the same as when a crime is committed in some city in the US it will more likely make the news if the victim is white and the attacker is black than if the victim was black or Hispanic. Having said that I also do not agree that this is a Jewish conspiracy, or that Israeli Jews are out to get all the Arabs in Israel...having lived in Israel for more than 15 years, I learned that there are many Jews who just want to live in peace and have allot of respect to the Arab culture whether Christian or Muslim. So I do not believe that this incident is racially motivated in any way, and to make it so is irresponsible. In some ways I agree with Haitham, if this was a Palestinian, who had done this, it would have been in the headlines all over the western media, it is the same as when a crime is committed in some city in the US it will more likely make the news if the victim is white and the attacker is black than if the victim was black or Hispanic.
Having said that I also do not agree that this is a Jewish conspiracy, or that Israeli Jews are out to get all the Arabs in Israel…having lived in Israel for more than 15 years, I learned that there are many Jews who just want to live in peace and have allot of respect to the Arab culture whether Christian or Muslim.
So I do not believe that this incident is racially motivated in any way, and to make it so is irresponsible.

]]> By: Robin http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59460 Robin Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:30:13 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59460 Hanan, I am not the one you adressed your statement to but if you permit me my intrusion, I also read about this when I did some deeper delving. Indeed disturbed people come in all shapes, sizes and even religions. I happen to think that is just what the explanation is for so-called Islamic terrorism. It is their religion gone amok, similar to abortion-clinic bombers here in the US albeit on a MUCH grander scale. I for one am sorry if this particular incident is not accepted for what it was, a disturbed individual who happened to be Jewish (I think that's what he was anyway if I remember correctly). Any way, my point is that there are demented people in all faiths and I only wish it would not lead to an attack on the faith itself. Politics are another matter, and on that everyone should be able to argue their point peacefully. Haitham, hope I'm not intruding or stepping on your toes either. Peace! Hanan,
I am not the one you adressed your statement to but if you permit me my intrusion, I also read about this when I did some deeper delving. Indeed disturbed people come in all shapes, sizes and even religions. I happen to think that is just what the explanation is for so-called Islamic terrorism. It is their religion gone amok, similar to abortion-clinic bombers here in the US albeit on a MUCH grander scale. I for one am sorry if this particular incident is not accepted for what it was, a disturbed individual who happened to be Jewish (I think that’s what he was anyway if I remember correctly). Any way, my point is that there are demented people in all faiths and I only wish it would not lead to an attack on the faith itself. Politics are another matter, and on that everyone should be able to argue their point peacefully.
Haitham, hope I’m not intruding or stepping on your toes either. Peace!

]]> By: Hanan Cohen http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59393 Hanan Cohen Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:53:01 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59393 Haitham, Please listen. This couple have REAL difficulties. Because of their difficulties, the Israel welfare system had taken their child from them a few years ago. They had been hiding when Violet (the wife) was pregnant because they feared of what eventually happened. There is a supreme court decision with the name of the father. I think it's about the decision to take away their baby. Here is a link to a news item from September 2003 about this couple. http://www.nfc.co.il/archive/001-D-29339-00.html?tag=23-52-18 I am not justifying anything of course. I am just saying that THIS TIME, the news about the psychiatric problems of the couple is true and based. Haitham,

Please listen. This couple have REAL difficulties.

Because of their difficulties, the Israel welfare system had taken their child from them a few years ago. They had been hiding when Violet (the wife) was pregnant because they feared of what eventually happened. There is a supreme court decision with the name of the father. I think it’s about the decision to take away their baby.

Here is a link to a news item from September 2003 about this couple.

http://www.nfc.co.il/archive/001-D-29339-00.html?tag=23-52-18

I am not justifying anything of course. I am just saying that THIS TIME, the news about the psychiatric problems of the couple is true and based.

]]> By: Robin http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59283 Robin Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:08:26 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59283 Haitham, I just wanted to hear it from the blogmasters masters mouth for all to see. Of COURSE I knew that, it's just the blurring of the lines to blame and the construct made to condone US policies drives me crazy. Oh no, maybe I DO need a psychiatrist! Thanks. Haitham,
I just wanted to hear it from the blogmasters masters mouth for all to see. Of COURSE I knew that, it’s just the blurring of the lines to blame and the construct made to condone US policies drives me crazy. Oh no, maybe I DO need a psychiatrist! Thanks.

]]> By: Sugar Cubes » This Week in Palestinian Blogs: After the Last Sky http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59242 Sugar Cubes » This Week in Palestinian Blogs: After the Last Sky Sat, 04 Mar 2006 14:06:54 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59242 [...] nder if all the Israeli attackers are mentally ill? More on the horrific incident and the Main Stream Media bias in coverage, Haitham Sabbah says: I went dig [...] [...] nder if all the Israeli attackers are mentally ill? More on the horrific incident and the Main Stream Media bias in coverage, Haitham Sabbah says: I went dig [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » This Week in Palestinian Blogs: After the Last Sky http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59147 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » This Week in Palestinian Blogs: After the Last Sky Sat, 04 Mar 2006 11:12:45 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59147 [...] nder if all the Israeli attackers are mentally ill? More on the horrific incident and the Main Stream Media bias in coverage, Haitham Sabbah says: I went dig [...] [...] nder if all the Israeli attackers are mentally ill? More on the horrific incident and the Main Stream Media bias in coverage, Haitham Sabbah says: I went dig [...]

]]> By: Robin http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/03/03/israeli-attack-church-in-nazareth/#comment-59137 Robin Sat, 04 Mar 2006 08:05:09 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1269#comment-59137 Haitham, Does that mean I don't exhibit psychiatric psychosis either? Maybe depression insues when I read about Palestinians and their suffering. But for that no pill will ever ease the anguish. By the way, all those events that Joachim mentioned, how many of them were carried out by Palestinians? Maybe you could set the record straight. Haitham,
Does that mean I don’t exhibit psychiatric psychosis either?
Maybe depression insues when I read about Palestinians and their suffering. But for that no pill will ever ease the anguish. By the way, all those events that Joachim mentioned, how many of them were carried out by Palestinians? Maybe you could set the record straight.

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