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		<title>By: fiza khan</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/04/30/to-dress-and-undress/#comment-344505</link>
		<dc:creator>fiza khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a muslim i do not like to be told by the public or any one what to do and what not to so the girl in the pics has made her choice and her family support her so what is you peoples problem i jst cannot understand Allah ke waaste stop makingfun of others and your selves because it isnt doning any good to any one&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('344505','fiza khan'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('344505','fiza khan','as a muslim i do not like to be told by the public or any one what to do and what not to so the girl in the pics has made her choice and her family support her so what is you peoples problem i jst cannot understand Allah ke waaste stop makingfun of others and your selves because it isnt doning any good to any one'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a muslim i do not like to be told by the public or any one what to do and what not to so the girl in the pics has made her choice and her family support her so what is you peoples problem i jst cannot understand Allah ke waaste stop makingfun of others and your selves because it isnt doning any good to any one
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		<title>By: Revue des blogs du Maghreb  (Magharebia.com)</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/04/30/to-dress-and-undress/#comment-97885</link>
		<dc:creator>Revue des blogs du Maghreb  (Magharebia.com)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 08:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] comprend pas pourquoi les Nations Unies devraient s'impliquer dans la "mode islamique". Il écrit: "Les femmes musulmanes vivant dans un camp de réfugiés somaliens au Keny [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('97885','Revue des blogs du Maghreb  (Magharebia.com)'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('97885','Revue des blogs du Maghreb  (Magharebia.com)','&#60;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&#62;&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; comprend pas pourquoi les Nations Unies devraient s\'impliquer dans la \&#34;mode islamique\&#34;. Il &#233;crit: \&#34;Les femmes musulmanes vivant dans un camp de r&#233;fugi&#233;s somaliens au Keny &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;&#60;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&#62;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] comprend pas pourquoi les Nations Unies devraient s&#8217;impliquer dans la &#8220;mode islamique&#8221;. Il écrit: &#8220;Les femmes musulmanes vivant dans un camp de réfugiés somaliens au Keny [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%-->
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		<title>By: Nzingha</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/04/30/to-dress-and-undress/#comment-96563</link>
		<dc:creator>Nzingha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 04:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"that thing on her head looks funny" rubbed me the wrong way also. How often do we read about the sadly oppressed Muslim women shrouded away and most likely abused and waiting for a non Muslim woman to come free her from her torment. Now Muslim women who do cover have more options to live as, gasp, normal women and we get the 'look funny'. I believe we should stand up and support such women because we will sure have more than enough "haram haram" stick bashing muttawa want to bes. 

to the question "does it show your shape while wet" as a woman who wears on of the swimsuits (although not as nice as the one in the picture) there is a 'suction' affect as you exit the pool (dunno how else to explain this) the lack of air between the wet suit and the skin is what will cause the clothes to stick With a bit of skill its easy to avoid as you exit a pool. I find that a gust of wind against my abya exposes more of  my shape than the suit. The suits however dry faster and expose much less than a self made get up to try and enjoy some swimming. and good thing.. just because I'm muslim doesn't mean that I can't be like other moms on vacation, splashing along with my children in a water park. Bravo to companies who create such clothing, now if only they would come down on the price. That austrilian company is out of its mind with their prices. 


btw the idea that one can completely hide their shape leads one to a burkah reality. Or simply lock woman in houses and aren't we tierd of that yet?

As for womans rights and working. Honestly as a woman in Saudi to see grown men folding g-strings in the local lengerie store.. or sizing me up as to 'what size fits best' for a bra and panties sure isn't my idea of womans rights. And its truely odd that windows now have to be blackened out for women to sell lengiere but they were waited on by men with clear windows when they bought it. Its a bit amusing to me as a Muslim woman to watch partitions being made, windows being painted all to hire women. 

As for womens rights to include firing men. Majority of women I know do not buy their under garments in the kingdom Many cross the bridge to Bahrain, others wait until they leave on vacation and make purchases simply because the only option here is men working the stores. It could be viewed as simply doing better buisness. I'd be more apt to go into La senza to buy under garments with a woman waiting on me than men. Men, non saudi men more specificly, will be fired as more women come in the work force. is it better to keep the men and women don't work? some one will have to loose somewhere. 

My apologies for ranting on your blog&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('96563','Nzingha'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('96563','Nzingha','\&#34;that thing on her head looks funny\&#34; rubbed me the wrong way also. How often do we read about the sadly oppressed Muslim women shrouded away and most likely abused and waiting for a non Muslim woman to come free her from her torment. Now Muslim women who do cover have more options to live as, gasp, normal women and we get the \'look funny\'. I believe we should stand up and support such women because we will sure have more than enough \&#34;haram haram\&#34; stick bashing muttawa want to bes. \r\n\r\nto the question \&#34;does it show your shape while wet\&#34; as a woman who wears on of the swimsuits (although not as nice as the one in the picture) there is a \'suction\' affect as you exit the pool (dunno how else to explain this) the lack of air between the wet suit and the skin is what will cause the clothes to stick With a bit of skill its easy to avoid as you exit a pool. I find that a gust of wind against my abya exposes more of  my shape than the suit. The suits however dry faster and expose much less than a self made get up to try and enjoy some swimming. and good thing.. just because I\'m muslim doesn\'t mean that I can\'t be like other moms on vacation, splashing along with my children in a water park. Bravo to companies who create such clothing, now if only they would come down on the price. That austrilian company is out of its mind with their prices. \r\n\r\n\r\nbtw the idea that one can completely hide their shape leads one to a burkah reality. Or simply lock woman in houses and aren\'t we tierd of that yet?\r\n\r\nAs for womans rights and working. Honestly as a woman in Saudi to see grown men folding g-strings in the local lengerie store.. or sizing me up as to \'what size fits best\' for a bra and panties sure isn\'t my idea of womans rights. And its truely odd that windows now have to be blackened out for women to sell lengiere but they were waited on by men with clear windows when they bought it. Its a bit amusing to me as a Muslim woman to watch partitions being made, windows being painted all to hire women. \r\n\r\nAs for womens rights to include firing men. Majority of women I know do not buy their under garments in the kingdom Many cross the bridge to Bahrain, others wait until they leave on vacation and make purchases simply because the only option here is men working the stores. It could be viewed as simply doing better buisness. I\'d be more apt to go into La senza to buy under garments with a woman waiting on me than men. Men, non saudi men more specificly, will be fired as more women come in the work force. is it better to keep the men and women don\'t work? some one will have to loose somewhere. \r\n\r\nMy apologies for ranting on your blog'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that thing on her head looks funny&#8221; rubbed me the wrong way also. How often do we read about the sadly oppressed Muslim women shrouded away and most likely abused and waiting for a non Muslim woman to come free her from her torment. Now Muslim women who do cover have more options to live as, gasp, normal women and we get the &#8216;look funny&#8217;. I believe we should stand up and support such women because we will sure have more than enough &#8220;haram haram&#8221; stick bashing muttawa want to bes. </p>
<p>to the question &#8220;does it show your shape while wet&#8221; as a woman who wears on of the swimsuits (although not as nice as the one in the picture) there is a &#8217;suction&#8217; affect as you exit the pool (dunno how else to explain this) the lack of air between the wet suit and the skin is what will cause the clothes to stick With a bit of skill its easy to avoid as you exit a pool. I find that a gust of wind against my abya exposes more of  my shape than the suit. The suits however dry faster and expose much less than a self made get up to try and enjoy some swimming. and good thing.. just because I&#8217;m muslim doesn&#8217;t mean that I can&#8217;t be like other moms on vacation, splashing along with my children in a water park. Bravo to companies who create such clothing, now if only they would come down on the price. That austrilian company is out of its mind with their prices. </p>
<p>btw the idea that one can completely hide their shape leads one to a burkah reality. Or simply lock woman in houses and aren&#8217;t we tierd of that yet?</p>
<p>As for womans rights and working. Honestly as a woman in Saudi to see grown men folding g-strings in the local lengerie store.. or sizing me up as to &#8216;what size fits best&#8217; for a bra and panties sure isn&#8217;t my idea of womans rights. And its truely odd that windows now have to be blackened out for women to sell lengiere but they were waited on by men with clear windows when they bought it. Its a bit amusing to me as a Muslim woman to watch partitions being made, windows being painted all to hire women. </p>
<p>As for womens rights to include firing men. Majority of women I know do not buy their under garments in the kingdom Many cross the bridge to Bahrain, others wait until they leave on vacation and make purchases simply because the only option here is men working the stores. It could be viewed as simply doing better buisness. I&#8217;d be more apt to go into La senza to buy under garments with a woman waiting on me than men. Men, non saudi men more specificly, will be fired as more women come in the work force. is it better to keep the men and women don&#8217;t work? some one will have to loose somewhere. </p>
<p>My apologies for ranting on your blog
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('96563','Nzingha'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('96563','Nzingha','\&quot;that thing on her head looks funny\&quot; rubbed me the wrong way also. How often do we read about the sadly oppressed Muslim women shrouded away and most likely abused and waiting for a non Muslim woman to come free her from her torment. Now Muslim women who do cover have more options to live as, gasp, normal women and we get the \'look funny\'. I believe we should stand up and support such women because we will sure have more than enough \&quot;haram haram\&quot; stick bashing muttawa want to bes. \r\n\r\nto the question \&quot;does it show your shape while wet\&quot; as a woman who wears on of the swimsuits (although not as nice as the one in the picture) there is a \'suction\' affect as you exit the pool (dunno how else to explain this) the lack of air between the wet suit and the skin is what will cause the clothes to stick With a bit of skill its easy to avoid as you exit a pool. I find that a gust of wind against my abya exposes more of  my shape than the suit. The suits however dry faster and expose much less than a self made get up to try and enjoy some swimming. and good thing.. just because I\'m muslim doesn\'t mean that I can\'t be like other moms on vacation, splashing along with my children in a water park. Bravo to companies who create such clothing, now if only they would come down on the price. That austrilian company is out of its mind with their prices. \r\n\r\n\r\nbtw the idea that one can completely hide their shape leads one to a burkah reality. Or simply lock woman in houses and aren\'t we tierd of that yet?\r\n\r\nAs for womans rights and working. Honestly as a woman in Saudi to see grown men folding g-strings in the local lengerie store.. or sizing me up as to \'what size fits best\' for a bra and panties sure isn\'t my idea of womans rights. And its truely odd that windows now have to be blackened out for women to sell lengiere but they were waited on by men with clear windows when they bought it. Its a bit amusing to me as a Muslim woman to watch partitions being made, windows being painted all to hire women. \r\n\r\nAs for womens rights to include firing men. Majority of women I know do not buy their under garments in the kingdom Many cross the bridge to Bahrain, others wait until they leave on vacation and make purchases simply because the only option here is men working the stores. It could be viewed as simply doing better buisness. I\'d be more apt to go into La senza to buy under garments with a woman waiting on me than men. Men, non saudi men more specificly, will be fired as more women come in the work force. is it better to keep the men and women don\'t work? some one will have to loose somewhere. \r\n\r\nMy apologies for ranting on your blog'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Haitham</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/04/30/to-dress-and-undress/#comment-96219</link>
		<dc:creator>Haitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 07:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get real Shaden. There is nothing anti-Islam. It's all about anti-Stupidity. Unfortunately all these stupidity is done under the name of Islam.

Back to sticky or nor sticky, this is not the point. The point is, can woman practice sport in public in Arab (Muslim) land as she feels suitable? What she chose to wear is her business.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('96219','Haitham'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('96219','Haitham','Get real Shaden. There is nothing anti-Islam. It\'s all about anti-Stupidity. Unfortunately all these stupidity is done under the name of Islam.\r\n\r\nBack to sticky or nor sticky, this is not the point. The point is, can woman practice sport in public in Arab (Muslim) land as she feels suitable? What she chose to wear is her business.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get real Shaden. There is nothing anti-Islam. It&#8217;s all about anti-Stupidity. Unfortunately all these stupidity is done under the name of Islam.</p>
<p>Back to sticky or nor sticky, this is not the point. The point is, can woman practice sport in public in Arab (Muslim) land as she feels suitable? What she chose to wear is her business.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('96219','Haitham'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('96219','Haitham','Get real Shaden. There is nothing anti-Islam. It\'s all about anti-Stupidity. Unfortunately all these stupidity is done under the name of Islam.\r\n\r\nBack to sticky or nor sticky, this is not the point. The point is, can woman practice sport in public in Arab (Muslim) land as she feels suitable? What she chose to wear is her business.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shaden</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/04/30/to-dress-and-undress/#comment-96163</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 05:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange? funny? was that the best you could come up with?

With all due respect to everyone, please stop being shallow. 

Not all kind of clothing material stick when wet, and if so, some might feel it is better than nothing at all!

Different people have different views, but what kills me is the anti-Islam I see amongst us-Arab Muslims. So sad.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('96163','Shaden'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('96163','Shaden','Strange? funny? was that the best you could come up with?\r\n\r\nWith all due respect to everyone, please stop being shallow. \r\n\r\nNot all kind of clothing material stick when wet, and if so, some might feel it is better than nothing at all!\r\n\r\nDifferent people have different views, but what kills me is the anti-Islam I see amongst us-Arab Muslims. So sad.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange? funny? was that the best you could come up with?</p>
<p>With all due respect to everyone, please stop being shallow. </p>
<p>Not all kind of clothing material stick when wet, and if so, some might feel it is better than nothing at all!</p>
<p>Different people have different views, but what kills me is the anti-Islam I see amongst us-Arab Muslims. So sad.
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 22:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the windows of the lingerie stores:

In the U.S. in many places lingerie stores don't display their wares so publically.  In fact, many Americans are very surprised to see how openly lingerie is displayed in the 'conservative' Middle East.  Of course I'm not saying that stores should be forced to blacken their windows, but just that it is perfectly possible to sell lingerie that way.  Banning men from the stores is more problematic, as everyone knows that men like to buy for their wives.  On the other hand, most women in the U.S. have been made to feel uncomfortable by male lingerie shoppers at one time or another.  Some of them can get a bit creepy.  So, if their goal is to protect women from encountering that at any cost, then they're going about it the right way.  All in all, I don't think the laws are unreasonable.  Though I agree that it would be more productive to let women drive.

As for the sports gear, I think it's great.  Anything looks funny if you haven't seen it before.  And you shouldn't jump to the conclusion that it sticks when you have no reason to do so.  Women who wear hijab have just as much right to play sports as anyone else, and to do so in a way consistent with their beliefs.  I don't look like a fashion plate in my gym clothes, either!&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('95738','Laura'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('95738','Laura','About the windows of the lingerie stores:\r\n\r\nIn the U.S. in many places lingerie stores don\'t display their wares so publically.  In fact, many Americans are very surprised to see how openly lingerie is displayed in the \'conservative\' Middle East.  Of course I\'m not saying that stores should be forced to blacken their windows, but just that it is perfectly possible to sell lingerie that way.  Banning men from the stores is more problematic, as everyone knows that men like to buy for their wives.  On the other hand, most women in the U.S. have been made to feel uncomfortable by male lingerie shoppers at one time or another.  Some of them can get a bit creepy.  So, if their goal is to protect women from encountering that at any cost, then they\'re going about it the right way.  All in all, I don\'t think the laws are unreasonable.  Though I agree that it would be more productive to let women drive.\r\n\r\nAs for the sports gear, I think it\'s great.  Anything looks funny if you haven\'t seen it before.  And you shouldn\'t jump to the conclusion that it sticks when you have no reason to do so.  Women who wear hijab have just as much right to play sports as anyone else, and to do so in a way consistent with their beliefs.  I don\'t look like a fashion plate in my gym clothes, either!'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the windows of the lingerie stores:</p>
<p>In the U.S. in many places lingerie stores don&#8217;t display their wares so publically.  In fact, many Americans are very surprised to see how openly lingerie is displayed in the &#8216;conservative&#8217; Middle East.  Of course I&#8217;m not saying that stores should be forced to blacken their windows, but just that it is perfectly possible to sell lingerie that way.  Banning men from the stores is more problematic, as everyone knows that men like to buy for their wives.  On the other hand, most women in the U.S. have been made to feel uncomfortable by male lingerie shoppers at one time or another.  Some of them can get a bit creepy.  So, if their goal is to protect women from encountering that at any cost, then they&#8217;re going about it the right way.  All in all, I don&#8217;t think the laws are unreasonable.  Though I agree that it would be more productive to let women drive.</p>
<p>As for the sports gear, I think it&#8217;s great.  Anything looks funny if you haven&#8217;t seen it before.  And you shouldn&#8217;t jump to the conclusion that it sticks when you have no reason to do so.  Women who wear hijab have just as much right to play sports as anyone else, and to do so in a way consistent with their beliefs.  I don&#8217;t look like a fashion plate in my gym clothes, either!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('95738','Laura'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('95738','Laura','About the windows of the lingerie stores:\r\n\r\nIn the U.S. in many places lingerie stores don\'t display their wares so publically.  In fact, many Americans are very surprised to see how openly lingerie is displayed in the \'conservative\' Middle East.  Of course I\'m not saying that stores should be forced to blacken their windows, but just that it is perfectly possible to sell lingerie that way.  Banning men from the stores is more problematic, as everyone knows that men like to buy for their wives.  On the other hand, most women in the U.S. have been made to feel uncomfortable by male lingerie shoppers at one time or another.  Some of them can get a bit creepy.  So, if their goal is to protect women from encountering that at any cost, then they\'re going about it the right way.  All in all, I don\'t think the laws are unreasonable.  Though I agree that it would be more productive to let women drive.\r\n\r\nAs for the sports gear, I think it\'s great.  Anything looks funny if you haven\'t seen it before.  And you shouldn\'t jump to the conclusion that it sticks when you have no reason to do so.  Women who wear hijab have just as much right to play sports as anyone else, and to do so in a way consistent with their beliefs.  I don\'t look like a fashion plate in my gym clothes, either!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<dc:creator>THE VIEW FROM FEZ: The bloggers target extreme Islamic treatment of women.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 20:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...]  absurd nature of some of the dress codes and demeaning treatment. Sabbah has a great post To Dress and Undress! which begins with the picture of a woman who is certainly no [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('95547','THE VIEW FROM FEZ: The bloggers target extreme Islamic treatment of women.'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('95547','THE VIEW FROM FEZ: The bloggers target extreme Islamic treatment of women.','&#60;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&#62;&#38;#91;...&#38;#93;  absurd nature of some of the dress codes and demeaning treatment. Sabbah has a great post To Dress and Undress! which begins with the picture of a woman who is certainly no &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;&#60;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&#62;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Haitham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 15:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't understand what you mean by "force them to wear it?"

You have to understand something. No body force a woman to play sport. Therefore, if she is a veiled woman and she wants to play sport in public, it is her choice to wear a modest dress as she sees fits. Simply, veiled woman (by her choice and well) will stick to wearing modest dress whenever they go in public, no body force them to do so.

So, please stop portraying that woman is forced to wear this ir that. In the places where woman is forced to wear Hijab, woman is not allowed to play sport in public in first place, so your assumption is not valid anyway.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('95457','Haitham'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('95457','Haitham','I don\'t understand what you mean by \&#34;force them to wear it?\&#34;\r\n\r\nYou have to understand something. No body force a woman to play sport. Therefore, if she is a veiled woman and she wants to play sport in public, it is her choice to wear a modest dress as she sees fits. Simply, veiled woman (by her choice and well) will stick to wearing modest dress whenever they go in public, no body force them to do so.\r\n\r\nSo, please stop portraying that woman is forced to wear this ir that. In the places where woman is forced to wear Hijab, woman is not allowed to play sport in public in first place, so your assumption is not valid anyway.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what you mean by &#8220;force them to wear it?&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to understand something. No body force a woman to play sport. Therefore, if she is a veiled woman and she wants to play sport in public, it is her choice to wear a modest dress as she sees fits. Simply, veiled woman (by her choice and well) will stick to wearing modest dress whenever they go in public, no body force them to do so.</p>
<p>So, please stop portraying that woman is forced to wear this ir that. In the places where woman is forced to wear Hijab, woman is not allowed to play sport in public in first place, so your assumption is not valid anyway.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('95457','Haitham'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('95457','Haitham','I don\'t understand what you mean by \&quot;force them to wear it?\&quot;\r\n\r\nYou have to understand something. No body force a woman to play sport. Therefore, if she is a veiled woman and she wants to play sport in public, it is her choice to wear a modest dress as she sees fits. Simply, veiled woman (by her choice and well) will stick to wearing modest dress whenever they go in public, no body force them to do so.\r\n\r\nSo, please stop portraying that woman is forced to wear this ir that. In the places where woman is forced to wear Hijab, woman is not allowed to play sport in public in first place, so your assumption is not valid anyway.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Laila El-Haddad</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/04/30/to-dress-and-undress/#comment-94837</link>
		<dc:creator>Laila El-Haddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Haitham, In my experience it does not necessarily stick to your body, I'm not sure what to liken it to, but there is a similar sports material made out of it..

personally I prefer swimming in private or in women-only pools etc.  of course those aren't always available so I do what I can.  If snorkeling, Scuba suits with swimcap and t-shirt.

But because I'm athletic these are all problems I have faced in the past, whether on a soccer or basketball team.  In highschool our school was kind enough to custom make our team's soccer outfit for three of us who wore hijab (with long pants and ts). I once wrote an article on Muslim women marathoners in teh US.  NOt all wear hijab of course, some wear it to the back (which I do too sometimes) or a hat.   Anyhow.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('94837','Laila El-Haddad'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('94837','Laila El-Haddad','Hey Haitham, In my experience it does not necessarily stick to your body, I\'m not sure what to liken it to, but there is a similar sports material made out of it..\r\n\r\npersonally I prefer swimming in private or in women-only pools etc.  of course those aren\'t always available so I do what I can.  If snorkeling, Scuba suits with swimcap and t-shirt.\r\n\r\nBut because I\'m athletic these are all problems I have faced in the past, whether on a soccer or basketball team.  In highschool our school was kind enough to custom make our team\'s soccer outfit for three of us who wore hijab (with long pants and ts). I once wrote an article on Muslim women marathoners in teh US.  NOt all wear hijab of course, some wear it to the back (which I do too sometimes) or a hat.   Anyhow.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Haitham, In my experience it does not necessarily stick to your body, I&#8217;m not sure what to liken it to, but there is a similar sports material made out of it..</p>
<p>personally I prefer swimming in private or in women-only pools etc.  of course those aren&#8217;t always available so I do what I can.  If snorkeling, Scuba suits with swimcap and t-shirt.</p>
<p>But because I&#8217;m athletic these are all problems I have faced in the past, whether on a soccer or basketball team.  In highschool our school was kind enough to custom make our team&#8217;s soccer outfit for three of us who wore hijab (with long pants and ts). I once wrote an article on Muslim women marathoners in teh US.  NOt all wear hijab of course, some wear it to the back (which I do too sometimes) or a hat.   Anyhow.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('94837','Laila El-Haddad'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('94837','Laila El-Haddad','Hey Haitham, In my experience it does not necessarily stick to your body, I\'m not sure what to liken it to, but there is a similar sports material made out of it..\r\n\r\npersonally I prefer swimming in private or in women-only pools etc.  of course those aren\'t always available so I do what I can.  If snorkeling, Scuba suits with swimcap and t-shirt.\r\n\r\nBut because I\'m athletic these are all problems I have faced in the past, whether on a soccer or basketball team.  In highschool our school was kind enough to custom make our team\'s soccer outfit for three of us who wore hijab (with long pants and ts). I once wrote an article on Muslim women marathoners in teh US.  NOt all wear hijab of course, some wear it to the back (which I do too sometimes) or a hat.   Anyhow.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Haitham</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/04/30/to-dress-and-undress/#comment-94716</link>
		<dc:creator>Haitham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laila,

I have nothing against Hijab, in fact my wife wears Hijab and as you said, it's woman's choice. That's what I always called for.

As for the picture, it is from the same source quoted in this post (National Geographic), follow the link and you can read the full post as well see the photo.

However, as you said, this is a photo of a swim suite, I don't know if Turkish or not. But beside the funny headwear, what happens when this suite get wet? I guess it will stick to the body, so, what makes it "ISLAMIC" then? Or is it Islamic when it is DRY only?&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('94716','Haitham'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('94716','Haitham','Laila,\r\n\r\nI have nothing against Hijab, in fact my wife wears Hijab and as you said, it\'s woman\'s choice. That\'s what I always called for.\r\n\r\nAs for the picture, it is from the same source quoted in this post (National Geographic), follow the link and you can read the full post as well see the photo.\r\n\r\nHowever, as you said, this is a photo of a swim suite, I don\'t know if Turkish or not. But beside the funny headwear, what happens when this suite get wet? I guess it will stick to the body, so, what makes it \&#34;ISLAMIC\&#34; then? Or is it Islamic when it is DRY only?'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laila,</p>
<p>I have nothing against Hijab, in fact my wife wears Hijab and as you said, it&#8217;s woman&#8217;s choice. That&#8217;s what I always called for.</p>
<p>As for the picture, it is from the same source quoted in this post (National Geographic), follow the link and you can read the full post as well see the photo.</p>
<p>However, as you said, this is a photo of a swim suite, I don&#8217;t know if Turkish or not. But beside the funny headwear, what happens when this suite get wet? I guess it will stick to the body, so, what makes it &#8220;ISLAMIC&#8221; then? Or is it Islamic when it is DRY only?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('94716','Haitham'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('94716','Haitham','Laila,\r\n\r\nI have nothing against Hijab, in fact my wife wears Hijab and as you said, it\'s woman\'s choice. That\'s what I always called for.\r\n\r\nAs for the picture, it is from the same source quoted in this post (National Geographic), follow the link and you can read the full post as well see the photo.\r\n\r\nHowever, as you said, this is a photo of a swim suite, I don\'t know if Turkish or not. But beside the funny headwear, what happens when this suite get wet? I guess it will stick to the body, so, what makes it \&quot;ISLAMIC\&quot; then? Or is it Islamic when it is DRY only?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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