First thing first, thank you, Sabbah, for such a wonderful blog. It is most interesting to read all the wonderful blogs you have posted and and the rather interesting, ;-) , posts made by everyone.

Second, I suppose this blog is all about putting folks into categories and making them representative of an entire group. Well I’ll join, I as much as anyone love stereotypes. I am a Irish, Catholic, American, White, Democrat from California. Well lets see that makes me a drunken idiot, a guilty zealot, a racist colonist, a pinko liberal, and a tree hugging hippy. It is funny that all those categories seem contradictory but what the hell, stereotypes. Go figure.

Third, I love that Sabbah picked this book to talk about. It is at least honest about a persons view of a difficult situation. Even if people don’t agree and are diametrically opposed to each other, I have always felt it is better to let a person speak their piece even if you can’t agree. So much better to argue than fight as a much wiser man than me once said. Today I drove home past an anti-immigration rally on my way home. On the other side was a pro-immigration rally on the opposite side of the street. Though they clearly did not agree they spoke and did not degrade their messages with violence. (I suppose California might not be doomed so soon :-) )

Lastly, I would like to say I love every single one of you for all your quirks. All your loving comments and hateful snides. If such an unoriginal book (If something is called Machavellian it must be derivative) can cause such intelligent witty banter than there must be intelligent witty people typing that banner. So thanks to you one and all. I have broadened my horizons listening to you all and am a wiser geezer because of it.

Stay safe, God bless, and keep on blogging.

First have the guts to question your own governments and learn the truth. Please do come back later boasting.

Nevertheless, establishing Judea could turn out to be a paradox as when they try to fully follow the Torah, they will find that they have no problems with the Muslims like these people have found out at jews-for-allah . org

Philip, you stated that “the ultimate goal of terrorism being to destroy democracy” which is simply untrue as anyone who has studied terrorism will tell you. Terrorists almost always are the product of injustice when those who are wronged feel that the injustices done to them cannot be redressed through other means.

“Even the turks realise that the westerners are not to be trusted.”

The USA is not all ‘westerners’.

Consider this:
- Several European countries did not trust USA’s motives in Iraq either.
- Several European countries were bullied into participating in Iraq with ‘token participation’ even though a majority of the people in those countries did not trust USA’s motives.
- Only one European country, the UK, fully participated in justifying the motives for a war in Iraq.
- Geographically, about half of Turkey is in Europe.
- Though primarily Muslim, Turkey is a secular state and it does have a democracy – it has its problems, but so do everybody else.
- Turkey is in negotiations about becoming part of the European Union.
- There are roughly as many ‘western’ countries that are either the USA or members of the EU as there are ‘western’ countries that are not the USA or members of the EU.

Both ‘Westerners’ and ‘Arabs’ are groups of people and countries that have just as many things in common as they have differences.

If I am not mistaken, then there are actually ‘Arabs’ who participate in the war on Iraq. Does that mean that ‘Arabs’ are not to be trusted either?

My point is: ‘Westerners’ are just as trustworthy as ‘Arabs’ and ‘Arabs’ are just as un-trustworthy as ‘Westerners’!

It would wiser if one could properly manage its own country rather than dictating the freedom of other countries. None of us have given Americans nor west the authority to dictate our lives. We havent elected you. So your choice should be limited to your country or nation you consider.

Even the turks realise that the westerners are not to be trusted. If they had been a staunch ally, IRAQ would have certainly been invaded from their bases. Why was there huge outcry about U.S presence in turkey, when there was a vote in the parliament.

I would also request you to consider it on a logical standpoint as well. To brush up your knowledge about your countries policies.

It is certainly untrue my friend the true intentions are to serve your nations belly (Oil interests). Well, Bush, Blair and Holy Queen are elected tyrants who enforce their will on other nations. Even the process of their election has been widely criticised by your own media. I think saddam is lesser evil than them. For having ethnically cleansed more than a million people and displaced more than those as refuges, as prostitutes in europe.

One simple question, a world of 6 billion odd people had to listen to a few idiots enforcing their will by the gun.

I pray, may god grant you the right knowledge, may god grant you the knowledge adn the strength to question the motives of your leaders.

Have a nice day!

I apologize if I appeared to be making personal attacks, I was not making attacks of any kind (except on Saddam, but, well…you know…). I was just hoping to grasp where Asadel was getting his info and view of Saddam as anything other than a murderous tyrant.

Asadel,
I am merely trying to point out to you some logical inconsistencies with whatever you are being taught. There are a lot of convincing people out there, especially those who have the opportunity to influence you face to face. I am simply trying to help you understand that the US, like them or not, WANT stability in Iraq, if ONLY for our own good! And for what it’s worth, the Kurds are one group that seems to share that goal as much as we do. But if you need proof that you are being sold a lie: You were told that the US wants Kurds to fight the Turks. But the US is a Turkish ally! We thing they’re the best thing since sliced bread (or something like that). So you are being taught a lie. I can’t make you reject the lie; I can only provide you with some basic, politics-free facts and hope you will give them consideration. Just clear out the emotion and such and try to look at it all from a straight rational/logical standpoint.

Thanks for the clarification, Alex!

The book is not currently available from publisher, though some copies are still sold on Amazon. Booksurge terminated Shoher’s publishing contract with no explanation whatsoever.

Kindly refrain from personal attacks. I’m not going to tolerate this here. Neither I nor other readers here are interested to read them. If you are here just for this (which I don’t think you are), then you are in the wrong place. Please read the note just above this comment box which will remind you of the policy here.

Philip,

The picture you see on top of the post is not from the book. It is a painting called “Samson Blinded” and you can find here:
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/C/corinth/samson_blinded.jpg.html

British and America would go on to any lengths to setup their colonial empire. Dont be such an idiot to just blindly believe in your hypocratic values. The very existence and foundations of your society are so weak on these hypocratic values. You are only surviving with the help of a gun and threatening.

If U.S and British were Holy Souls, why is there bias in the United Nations. Why isn’t there a democratic structure, why is that they need to hold Veta Power. If there had been no Veto Power or your GUN with which u threaten to blow up nations, force families into prostitution, drug trading, ethnically cleanse.

In the academia itself, there is debate about 911 itself now, suspicious isn’t it. Saddam certainly has been a hero he stood by the truth. He tried to safe gaurd his nation, his people. He has been misled by British and Americans, to wage war against iran.

There are alot of middle east academicians, who have realised this and have traced it out, the master sketch.

By the way Mr.Philip are you an israeli spy or british MI5 agent or CIA analyst who is trying to bully people the right to speak, to reflect the truth.

Hope you wouldnt threaten to kill people or blow up television or news broadcasting stations.

I am certainly not misled and we are not goats or sheep or pigs that we blindly follow a dictator like bush or hitler or blair or the holy queen.

MI5 and CIA have a policy of setting up cover up operations to mobilise their objectives. Have u seen “arlington road”, unfortunately a couple of our politicians have been in such a situation.

Philip, certainly you are on your way to obtain a first certificate towards saint hood or knight from the Queen like Bill Gates .

Toast for Philip.