Comments on: The Great Divide: How Westerners and Muslims View Each Other? http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/ We Still Hold The Key And Deed To Our Home In Palestine. We Will Return! Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:28:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: kimmy http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-169442 kimmy Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:30:46 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-169442 My personal view, I am a non-believer and I really enjoy reading this post. I read both views and follow them. I have noticed a direction of comments discrediting both religions. Why is Islam attacking Infidells? Why are Christians attacking Muslims. I find this very funny because both of your books say basically the same thing. Read your books. Understand what is written. We all share this world. Let us live together! Don't judge, accept your fellow man (woman). If we don't we won't survive! My personal view,
I am a non-believer and I really enjoy reading this post.
I read both views and follow them. I have noticed a direction of comments discrediting both religions.
Why is Islam attacking Infidells?
Why are Christians attacking Muslims.
I find this very funny because both of your books say basically the same thing.
Read your books. Understand what is written.
We all share this world. Let us live together!
Don’t judge, accept your fellow man (woman).
If we don’t we won’t survive!

]]> By: John Arthur http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-168482 John Arthur Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:39:34 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-168482 So why should I respect Muslims when they cannot be honest about their religion? The Quran is full of hate and anger towards non-Muslims and the hadiths tell us that MOhammud did many evil, vile things. Don't Muslims even read their own writings? How can anybody say "Islam condemns any sort of violence" (as above) if one has even a elementary knowledge of Islam. Muslims are in denial about their religion and their dear pro[phet and there is absolutely nothing we can do to change this. Believe me, I have tried. I have pointed out the many passages in the Quran promoting hate towards kaffir. I have given references and direct links to Islamic sites with the the full text of "strong" hadiths that tell of Mohammad making unprovoked attacks on caravans and villages, of rape and torture, enslavement and executions, and even of Mohammad beating his favorite wife (unless "he hit me and caused me pain" means something else). Not once did any Muslim acknowledge these facts from their own writings. Words mean nothing. It is hopeless. Muslims are either dishonest or in denial. Things will get worse. John Kactuz So why should I respect Muslims when they cannot be honest about their religion? The Quran is full of hate and anger towards non-Muslims and the hadiths tell us that MOhammud did many evil, vile things. Don’t Muslims even read their own writings?

How can anybody say “Islam condemns any sort of violence” (as above) if one has even a elementary knowledge of Islam. Muslims are in denial about their religion and their dear pro[phet and there is absolutely nothing we can do to change this. Believe me, I have tried. I have pointed out the many passages in the Quran promoting hate towards kaffir. I have given references and direct links to Islamic sites with the the full text of “strong” hadiths that tell of Mohammad making unprovoked attacks on caravans and villages, of rape and torture, enslavement and executions, and even of Mohammad beating his favorite wife (unless “he hit me and caused me pain” means something else). Not once did any Muslim acknowledge these facts from their own writings. Words mean nothing. It is hopeless. Muslims are either dishonest or in denial.

Things will get worse.

John Kactuz

]]> By: Curt from Houston http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-168413 Curt from Houston Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:04:44 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-168413 Last observation. If the people of the West are so morally bankrupt and their culture so depraved, why do so many Muslims want to immigrate to Western countries? Oddly enough, Muslims in the US earn quite a bit more on average than native born citizens. Go figure. You would think that if us infidels had it out for Muslims, that would not be the case. Last observation. If the people of the West are so morally bankrupt and their culture so depraved, why do so many Muslims want to immigrate to Western countries? Oddly enough, Muslims in the US earn quite a bit more on average than native born citizens. Go figure. You would think that if us infidels had it out for Muslims, that would not be the case.

]]> By: Curt from Houston http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-168411 Curt from Houston Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:48:38 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-168411 One other thing I find really disturbing about this survey is the number of Muslims that believe that Muslims were not responsible for 9/11. It's probably a good thing that many Westerners don't pay too close attention to these sorts of news items. This really makes the majority of the Muslim street look like paranoid and delusional conspiracy kooks. One other thing I find really disturbing about this survey is the number of Muslims that believe that Muslims were not responsible for 9/11. It’s probably a good thing that many Westerners don’t pay too close attention to these sorts of news items. This really makes the majority of the Muslim street look like paranoid and delusional conspiracy kooks.

]]> By: Curt from Houston http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-168410 Curt from Houston Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:41:29 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-168410 Sabbah, how do you square all of this Muslim desire for peace and understanding with the West with the school books in many Arab countries that describe Jews and Christians as "pigs and monkeys". There are numerous references on the Internet that documents this and many other such statements in Arab text books for even small Muslim children. No where in the West do you find such reprehensible slander against Muslims in school texts. This may go a long way to explaining why Westerners have such a higher regard for Muslims than Muslims have for Westerners. Sabbah, how do you square all of this Muslim desire for peace and understanding with the West with the school books in many Arab countries that describe Jews and Christians as “pigs and monkeys”. There are numerous references on the Internet that documents this and many other such statements in Arab text books for even small Muslim children. No where in the West do you find such reprehensible slander against Muslims in school texts. This may go a long way to explaining why Westerners have such a higher regard for Muslims than Muslims have for Westerners.

]]> By: Robin http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-167843 Robin Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:15:28 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-167843 Here is an interesting article written in yesterday's LA Times by Joel Stein, a Jewish journalist well-known here in the US. The title of the article is "Meet Islam's Ann Coulter, Wafa Sultan's Misleading Tirades Are Cause For Concern" It's about her appearance at a fund-raiser by a Jewish organization that seeks to counteract anti-Israeli disinformation. With friends like Wafa, who needs enemies. The article goes on to discuss a progressive organization of Jews, Muslims and Christians here in LA. "Different" is all I can offer as my own opinion. The audience is strictly for Americans by this group. http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-stein25jun25,1,7803731.story Here is an interesting article written in yesterday’s LA Times by Joel Stein, a Jewish journalist well-known here in the US. The title of the article is “Meet Islam’s Ann Coulter, Wafa Sultan’s Misleading Tirades Are Cause For Concern” It’s about her appearance at a fund-raiser by a Jewish organization that seeks to counteract anti-Israeli disinformation. With friends like Wafa, who needs enemies. The article goes on to discuss a progressive organization of Jews, Muslims and Christians here in LA. “Different” is all I can offer as my own opinion. The audience is strictly for Americans by this group.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-stein25jun25,1,7803731.story

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]]> By: kimmy http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-166516 kimmy Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:10:16 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-166516 Just to distract everyone. Visit this site. Pictures from, about and from earth about space. God knows we need an escape. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html Just to distract everyone. Visit this site. Pictures from, about and from earth about space.
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]]> By: kimmy http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-166512 kimmy Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:02:55 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-166512 Statistic are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive. What they hide is vital. Think about it! Statistic are like bikinis.
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]]> By: Robin http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/06/23/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/#comment-166443 Robin Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:10:48 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1399#comment-166443 blah, I do not think you have proven anything about the distrust at all. It just exists, simple, it exists. I have never personally experienced anything directed directly at me in all of the 31 years I have been closely associated with Muslims and Arabs. On the contrary, I have received love and acceptance. But it also must be understood that I know as a fact from hearing it with my own ears the generalized hatred of the West. Also, PLEASE do not get me wrong that I am unaware of the reasons given. But on a personal level when I meet someone new without a personal introduction, I feel like a little kid in class raising her hand and saying "I'm not like that, honest I'm not!!" Also PLEASE do not get me wrong and think that I am ignoring the bigotry here. It is ALL AROUND and it makes me PUKE. But, once again, if people hear from me personally that these misconceptions about Arabs and Muslims are untrue, or better yet take the chance to find out for themselves, then it is an opportunity to erase some of the misunderstandings. I truly believe that each and every one of us on both sides of this divide have to take responsibilty for our own attitudes and ask ourselves, "Is this justified to blanketly distrust the other when we ourselves have no stake other than to perpetuate mistrust?" We also need to take every opportunity as individuals to address the bigotry of our own parties. If my country does an egregious act against an Arab/Muslim country, then I NEED to speak up. When acts of terrorism against the West are committed by AlQuada, Moslems and Arabs NEED to speak up (yes I know they do but there is also the cheering and support as witnessed in the above report which does NOT play well as a public relations campaigne). My bottom line is this, there is ENOUGH ill will towards the other to fill up too many cups, and as individuals we need to take every chance we can to rectify the problem. blah,
I do not think you have proven anything about the distrust at all. It just exists, simple, it exists. I have never personally experienced anything directed directly at me in all of the 31 years I have been closely associated with Muslims and Arabs. On the contrary, I have received love and acceptance. But it also must be understood that I know as a fact from hearing it with my own ears the generalized hatred of the West. Also, PLEASE do not get me wrong that I am unaware of the reasons given. But on a personal level when I meet someone new without a personal introduction, I feel like a little kid in class raising her hand and saying “I’m not like that, honest I’m not!!” Also PLEASE do not get me wrong and think that I am ignoring the bigotry here. It is ALL AROUND and it makes me PUKE. But, once again, if people hear from me personally that these misconceptions about Arabs and Muslims are untrue, or better yet take the chance to find out for themselves, then it is an opportunity to erase some of the misunderstandings. I truly believe that each and every one of us on both sides of this divide have to take responsibilty for our own attitudes and ask ourselves, “Is this justified to blanketly distrust the other when we ourselves have no stake other than to perpetuate mistrust?” We also need to take every opportunity as individuals to address the bigotry of our own parties. If my country does an egregious act against an Arab/Muslim country, then I NEED to speak up. When acts of terrorism against the West are committed by AlQuada, Moslems and Arabs NEED to speak up (yes I know they do but there is also the cheering and support as witnessed in the above report which does NOT play well as a public relations campaigne). My bottom line is this, there is ENOUGH ill will towards the other to fill up too many cups, and as individuals we need to take every chance we can to rectify the problem.

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