What exactly would the USA stand to gain from a solution to the conflict? The loss of one of their biggest weapons and technology customers? The loss of a donation recipient chanelling billions of dollars back to companies in the USA as indirect state subsidy? The loss of billions of dollars in so-called pro-Israel lobbying? The loss of an excuse to build military bases and invading countries all over the Middle East? What exactly is it the USA stands to gain?

“The resulting annihilation of Israel”?!? Did you forget that Israel already has one of the strongest armed forces in the area? That Israeli military technology is years ahead of every other country in the Middle East? That Israel is one of the rogue states who refuse to declare their nuclear weapons stockpile? You actually did buy into the concept of that Israel is the victim in this conflict didn’t you?

“Neo-Islam”? There is nothing new in Islam, it is an old, conservative, and static religion that does not change! I did not claim that the Islamic fascist, Bin Laden, cared about the plight of Palestinians and I don’t know how you read that I appove of 911. What I said was that IF the USA had sponsored abuse of me and my countrymen for 50 years (which they have not) THEN I COULD potentially probably maybe consider to dance in the steet as well, but I did not say that I WOULD! What I said was that I UNDERSTAND how those Palestinians feel. That is something which is called EMPATHY! You should try it some day, then maybe you would understand why so many people think that people like you and the USA government suck big time!!!!

I do not understand what you are getting at with your linking and reference to the cartoon debacle. One thing is for sure, you will not find any of my posts where I preach USA imperialism, cristian supremacy or any of the other nonsense that remotely resembles that of the right-wingers in the USA! Sorry, but I do not recognize the hypocricy and self-righteousness you talk about.

“Had it not been for this ?sick US government dominated world,? you?d be speaking German.”

Es ist klar das du auch einer der Opfer des US-Amerikanische propaganda Maschinerei bist, die denken da?die USA eigenh?ig und ganz ohne beihilfe die Zweiten Weltkrieg gevonnen hat!

Number of Israeli children killed – 123 Number of Palestinian children killed – 707

–Total number of Israelis killed – 1084 Total number of Palestinians killed – 3790

–Number of Israelis injured – 7,633 Number of Palestinians injured – 29,395

–To the above totals add that in the 2 weeks up to February 10, 2006, Israeli security forces killed 15 more Palestinians and injured dozens more including 12 children. And more Palestinians are killed and injured nearly every day, including women, children and the elderly.

–Daily U.S. aid to Israel in dollars – $15,139,178 Daily U.S. aid to Palestinian NGOs in dollars – $232,290

–Number of UN resolutions targeting Israel – 65 Number of UN resolutions targeting the Palestinians – 0

–Number of Israelis held prisoner by the Palestinians – 0 Number of Palestinians held prisoner by the Israelis – 9,184

–Number of Israeli homes demolished by the Palestinians – 0 Number of Palestinian homes demolished by the Israelis – 4,170

–The current Israeli unemployment rate is – 8.9% The current estimated Palestinian unemployment rate – estimates vary and range up to 67% and at times even higher.

–Number of new Israeli settlements (for Jews only) built between March 2001 and July 11, 2003 on stolen Palestinian land – 60+ No Palestinian settlement has ever been built on stolen Israeli land (even though it’s land Israel stole from the Palestinians)

And you even try to call the Israeli/US terrorist duo justified?
The mere fact that they wear uniforms while the Palestinians do not does not make them legitimate. If you are going to call the Palestinians “terrorists” then I suggest you notice that a uniform CANNOT cover up the terrorist acts committed simply because they are wearing a “costume” of legitimacy.

What the hell do you expect the Palestinians to do when their lands are stolen, their water is expropriated for Israel, their freedom of movement is controlled, their houses are destroyed, their cities are starved, their women and children are held in jails without trial, totally innocent bystanders die in extra-judicial targeted killings of militants occur, “mistakes” such as the Gaza beach incident are covered up, a wall is built snaking through their supposed future state leaving large pockets of settlements which give future cause for Israeli incursion, much much more, and the US CONTINUES TO SUPPORT THIS. Israel could NOT exist if it were not for the US, period. I’m sorry, but when I see the Palestinians dancing in the streets I know why. They are humans who have had to live in a circumstance that is unfathonable to the average Westerner. The ONLY two reasons why I wish that they didn’t dance is I wish they had no reason to dance AND that it perpetuates a negative image to the US which continues to support the terrorist state of Israel PERIOD. The ONLY reason why I wish they had not kidnapped this soldier, a legitimate act of warfare, is because of the possible consequence to the general population. Israel is a terrorist state PERIOD.
The number of UN sanctions against it’s acts is long, LEGITIMATE sanctions that the US has vetoed. There is ABSOLUTELY no defense for the TERRORIST acts of the Israelis. PERIOD. You can lob your bits at me all you want and you are NEVER going to change my mind on this. There is a REASON why “they” hate the US and I strongly suggest you try to find out why before you give your unconditional support to our government and it’s support of the illegal unjustifiable acts of this Jewish state.

“Arabs and Palestinians created this problem, and they are the ones who will solve it. Eventually. Or not. It?s nothing to do with the US, and even if was, America is, as you said, a ?fascist? country, and not only that, we?re at WAR with people just like HAMAS, right now.”

Either you have slept through history class or you should ask for your school money back!

The UK (in agreement with the USA) created Israel because some European Jews (the Zionists) did not want to live in Europe after WWII. The Zionists went to Israel, but since the non-Jewish population already living there did not want to live in a Jewish state they protested and refused to cooperate. The Zionist immigrants found it offensive that the local non-Jewish population did not want a Jewish state pushed over their heads, so they refused to cooperate as well and started to marginalize the original population.
To begin with there were militants on both sides fighting each other and there were ‘neutrals’ on both sides who did not want to fight each other. While there were several riots, clashes between armed groups, and several terrorist attacks on civilians (perpetrated by both sides), the first large scale massacre on neutrals were Zionist extremists who attacked the neutral village of Deir Yassin (April 9-11, 1948) where the Zionist extremists executed somewhere between 90 and 120 men, women, and children who had declared themselves as neutral.

It is a fact, that the United Nations recognize Israel AND Palestine with a separation along the 1967 borders. It is also a fact that the USA is one of the biggest critics of Hamas for refusing to reconize the territorial integrity of Israel while the USA is THE biggest supporter of Israel despite that Israel refuses to recognize the territorial integrity of Palestine!!!!

It is only a couple of weeks ago that Olmert declared that HE will draw the borders unilaterally and that he will never share Jerusalem with anybody! These intentions are in gross violations of the UN recognized borders and the state of Israel has only been able to get away with their ILLEGAL occupation of Palestine, abuse of human rights, state sponsored terrorism, apartheid legislation against Israeli Arabs, and religious extremist behavior because of PROTECTION in the UN and militarily by the USA and its power to veto any UNSC resolution demanding that Israel gets their shit together!

Because of YOUR government’s support of the terrorist governement of Israel they are being treated as victims rather than the perpetrators that they are. If this had not been such a sick US Government dominated world then the government of Israel would rightfully have gotten the same cold shoulder as Hamas for being a terrorist organization.

YOUR government may not have started the conflict, but it is THE prime responsible for drawing the conflict out as long as it has been going on and YOUR government is the No. 1 obstacle to a fair resolution of the conflict!

While I feel sorry for the lives lost on September 11, I cannot say that I would not have danced in the streets if my country had been under abuse and oppression for more than 50 years at the sponsorship of YOUR government! I don’t think it is right to celebrate the death of others, but I fully understand the Palestinians who danced in the streets. After all, though nobody deserved to die in the September 11 attacks it was NOT a completely unprovoked agression on your country!

[...]Let’s watch the new massacre.
The new martyrdom count will begin soon in Palestine. The Israeli terrorist drum roll has begun, blood smell on the air, maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow, maybe[...]

I am against this is because it will garner even more support from my fascist government. I have absolutely no answer as to how to change the US mindset

You mean, so it’s not “fascist” anymore? :O

Good luck with that!

but that IS the key to putting the pressure on Israel to end the occupation.

No, the key to ending the occupation, is ending the war. Period.

Don’t expect America to put pressure on Israel. Arabs and Palestinians created this problem, and they are the ones who will solve it. Eventually. Or not. It’s nothing to do with the US, and even if was, America is, as you said, a “fascist” country, and not only that, we’re at WAR with people just like HAMAS, right now. Just *exactly* like HAMAS. What are the odds the US will pressure Israel to cave to terrorists, while we are at war with terrorists?

And what are the odds that Americans will ever forget that Palestinians were dancing in the streets on Spetember 11th, 2001?

If you want to end the violence, talk to the Palestinians. The violence belongs to them.