What can they do, kill us?

I am having such a difficult time gathering the right thoughts and words to send. I cannot possibly send you all enough love from my heart in words here. I am praying, from deep in the center of my soul that God keeps you safe from harms way. That God reaches down and gathers each one of you in his protective arms, holding you close to him. May you all cling to eachother, hold fast to eachother, protect eachother with your loving arms for eachother. Let this dark angel pass away from you and never ever come again.
My thoughts, prayers, hopes and fears are all shared with you.
To God I pray, let this pass.
With you in solidarity.

Hello…I am not part of the terrorist bloc, although I would like to make a comment to those who live in/near the area of the Israeli invasion, or those involved. I am a Canadian who believes in freedom, the right to exist and be happy (to whatever extent is possible). My personal and or religous beliefs I think have no place here, but what I think does is the following:

To think we live in a world where the only reason that is visible for the hatred of the Jewish people is the following:

- Accused for the murder of various prophets, including but not limited to Christ…

- Land Occupation, apparently dropped in from the sky into where you live.

Did i miss anything?

Here is how I see things.

To commit murder on behalf of a religous order or belief system is an abomination to any religion that claims to be religous / God fearing in nature. Second, I notice that the arab peoples, more specifically, the ones referred to as terrorists…they tend to refer to americans as “Infidals”. Since here in America, we are considered a Christian nation with a God and religous belief system…to call us a “Godless People” suggests that you do not worship the same God…the ONE GOD and THE ONLY GOD…if this is the case, I would need to ask the question. Who or what do you people pray too? I am not attempting to make a bad situation worse (I dont think that is possible), I am stating the obvious, that which is obvious to me. I wish to know what is wrong with the old rule: LIVE AND LET LIVE…it seems to me that this is not sufficient for you people. You wish only to eliminate the jews. I do not see this happening. What I see happening is the following:

- The elimination of the Arab race.
- The bringing on of a one world government.
- The bringing on of WWIII.
- Global Thermal Nuclear War.
- The obliteration of the human race.

So in light of these observations, I do not believe that you seek freedom or safety, but the ending of human existance. Since this is obvious, then I believe there is no other choice…the elimination of the hostile forces claming Jihad.

I do not believe in war and mayham. I do not believe in murder. I believe in peace and love, The sharing of knowlege, becoming more then one is rather then less. Canada is one of the most loved countries in the world…we may tend to defend ourselves at the threat of death, but we certainly did nothing to warrent terrorist activists plotting within our own country…pretending to be Canadian citizens, and like cowards, planning on the “blowing up” of areas where many people go. The only thing this will cause to happen, is the innocent arab population becoming targets (which has already begun). Since we cannot tell which individuals within this population are a threat, there would only be one alternative…the targeting of anyone of arab decent. You cannot blame our people for this. Your people would react the same way. It would not be fair to say that you already have, because your people are the instigators of this entire issue. Look at history if you do not concur.

Hello again, I notice that what I said was referred to as hatred. I hate no one. No one at all. I dislike no race. I am certainly not ignorant since that which I spoke was required to be spoken since no one else seems to have what is needed to do so. I have (and still have) Arabic friends; I learned a small amount of Arabic because, and before I had ever heard of terrorism I had a great admiration for the Arab people. If there are Arab people who are not involved in this Jihad, then I challenge them to route out the people who would have them targeted. I was only stating the obvious…zero hatred…one must learn to read, and understand before they make comments that make no sense…when I say that it has already begun, that innocent Arab populations are currently being targeted…it would take someone very war-like and/or ignorant to interpret this as some form of threat or statement of hatred…if I can turn on the news and see Arabs being targeted here and in the USA…this is observation, not personal intent…I have no personal intent, all I know is what is apparent. What I can see and I am by no means ignorant…I am well educated and someone who prays often. There is a very obscure Barbara Walters special that I had watched. They chose 2 well educated university students of Arab decent. I heard with my own ears maybe in my own words, but very accurate the following that one of the Arabic students said with the full agreement of the other: “We have no problem with the United States, as long as they do not get in our way while committing genocide against the Jews”! You have the audacity to call me ignorant, or my statement as hatred…Muhammad himself had no hatred of Jews until he noticed that the Jewish people had no intention of joining his cult. Read history (more specifically that of Madinat al-Nabi), he attempted to convert them apparently only converting a single Jew. I feel for all of the innocent Arabic people in Gaza, the children, and the women, anyone who has nothing to do with the terror ideology. I also see that Israel has attempted on many occasions to attain peace…while bombs were still blowing up in their country, innocent people dieing…someone dug a tunnel in an attempt to gain access to Jewish people with the intent to kill and capture. This is by far an act of war. There is no hatred on my part, only an honest soul-searching of myself…and when this happens, I can see that this is an act that requires some form of action. I cannot say what action is the correct action. I wish to not see a single Arab woman or child be harmed in anyway, but…on the other hand…one can do much to speak out and declare their innocence, but what have the non-jihadists done to purge their own people for the ones who are causing all of the problems being suffered by those innocent people? Where are the ones who are trying to stop those who would make bombs, strap them to themselves, enter a school or church and deliberately detonate the bombs they carry? I see no such activity. Only those who would call those who see this and disapprove as ignorant…
STOP THE KILLING…HOW CAN THIS BE A STATEMENT OF IGNORANCE AND HATRED?

Oops, that should have been the 19th century!

I am sorry if I offended anyone with my strong comments. The fact is, we are all stuck in the same trap attempting to get by day by day. I dont live the life that has made muslims so angry, so I cannot completely understand their strugle…I know what I see and this is what I know. I see a people (Arabs) attempting to get by day by day, then I see another group of people (Terrorists) who wish to murder Jews and anyone who attempts to get in their way…Thomas is right, Nas is right…but I do not believe terrorism is right for any reason. The powers that be will not discuss issues with the Arabs because of terrorism. The entire world will be involved in the destruction of this group, I dont wish to see this happen, I do not wish to see anymore death. There HAS to be a solution, but the solution will NOT come about with bombs going off. This is obvious to me that for any resolution to be possible, the fighting HAS to come to an end. The arab people need to band together and rid the world of the terrorist germ that spreads…just for their own survival if for nothing else. How come other regions can work out their problems without violence? The Arab people need to renounce violence if this is even possible…since they cannot win by means of war, and terrorism creates terrible feelings in people, and people with intelligence will not negotiate with violent people. I believe that inside, all persons are good…bad experiences create bad people, they are not born bad, I believe this.
Israel is guilty of many offences, although on the other hand…so are terrorists. Israel believes they have a claim to their region, so do Arabs…is there that much hate involved that this cannot be a symbiotic relationship?

Victor, I agree with you that (1) deliberately killing civilians is an unmitigated evil, no matter what cause it’s done on behalf of (and no matter whether it’s done by F-16′s or explosive belts). I also believe that (2) colonizing 3.5 million Palestinians and depriving them of their basic human and political rights is an even greater unmitigated evil. I believe that were (2) to end, Palestinian support for groups that engage in (1) would dry up.

I don’t want to get into debate about the relationship about Arabs, Islam and violence, but I would point out that, in 2002, the Arab League offered full normalization of relations with Israel in exchange for a withdrawal to the pre-1967 borders, the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state with its capital in East Jerasulem, and a “just resolution” to the refugee problem. Ariel Sharon’s response was to invade the West Bank the next day.

However, the Arab League has renewed its offer. Were Israel to enter into negotations on the basis of these proposals, than groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad would either have to change their positions and tactics or lose their support among the Palestinian population. It is noteworthy that an overwhelming majority of Palestinians, including Hamas voters, favor a 2-state solution.

Palestinians cannot (and do not deserve to) win their freedom by deliberately murdering Israeli civilians. But neither can Israel have security as long as it continues to enslave 3.5 million Palestinians.

Victor,
Can you please explain to us why the entire onus of peace is placed upon ALL Arabs? Please keep in mind that this thread on which we are discussing this matter is about the current collective punishment against the Palestinian civilian population of Gaza, knocking out their power plants FIRST thing when this is against the Geneva Convention. Please keep in mind also that hundreds of women and children are held without trial in Israeli jails AGAINST Geneva Convention. And also, that Israel has continued to occupy Palestine, AGAINST UN Resolution 242 which states, “Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;
http://www.mideastweb.org/242.htm written November 22, 1967!!!!
And please keep in mind, that not one single person I have seen writing on this blog since February supports “terrorist acts” against civilians but that they also recognize that the acts of the Zionists passing themselves off as legitimate in IOF uniforms are by FAR the greater perpetrators of terrorism and thus should be labeled so since their’s was the first title earned? Above you wrote “- Land Occupation, apparently dropped in from the sky into where you live” Evidently you seem to think that the Zionist state of Israel did “not drop in from the sky” but rather that for some reason it was always there and the Arab population should be held entirely accountable for their anger. Or at least, they should just get over it and stop being responsible for all the troubles of the world. Please also keep in mind that not all Jews support the Zionist State. In fact, many do NOT support it and say that it is an abomination of their religion being used to justify a POLITICAL action http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ and http://www.rense.com/general54/thank.htm
So just so you get this straight, NO ONE HERE on this blog that I am aware of supports “terrorism” by ANY PARTY!!!

Very interesting. I can agree with many of your points, Robin…I also know, for those interested in Bible prophacy, it does state that they are Jews and they are not…possibly referring to the current leadership in Israel (if one is to believe in such writings)…one must digress, I know only what is shown to me on the news in my country, and my own research…I have much feeling for those stuck in Gaza…although not much feeling for the bomb building factory that was destroyed…I do think though, that the current occupation will not bring back their missing soldier, and may infact cause his death…if it hasn’t already. I agree to disagree, terrorism in any form is wrong. Even if perpetrated by a nation in the form of military action. One must consider, in my country…our news shows that no civillians are being harmed. If this is not correct information, I urge you to correct me.

Victor must be Philip’s brother.
Quote the bible and say it is right.
Victor, I am Canadian also, and your view is so wrong.
The Israelis are the terrorists because they occupy Palestein and they are taking their land and destroying their homes.
The Western press is only covering what is happening agaist Israel, not what is happening to the Palestinians.
What is being reported about the Palestinians is that the Israelis response to Palestinian self defence. But we are not told about that!

Although, I would have to agree that any innocent person in Gaza who suffers at all, is a victom. But I would be interested in focusing more on those who would commission innocent people to commit these acts, who hide behind the scenes, cause your people to starve, then offer an alternative to your hardship. This would make you more of a victom then you even realize.

This I would have to agree on, shelling is just a more advanced form of the same activity…especially if it is not warrented…and yes, Israel is a very powerful nation…4th in the world…I personally think they could give the USA a run for their money if they chose too. So I do see your point. It would be like me, martial artist, choosing to beat a 5 year old child, it is not a fair fight. I understand the act of strapping the bombs on…they know they don’t have the means to shell as does Israel. Although…I would imagine a statement I made earlier, if the arab peoples rose up against terrorism…the rest of the world would rally around them and begin to listen to their concerns. I can see the distrust, and can see the response being negative because your peoples have been trodden on for so long. I am also aware of atrocities committed by Israel in the ’60s, concerning the hungry dogs. This is a sin…and unnec. punishment indeed. But the act of strapping bombs onto oneself has created a mass world-wide distrust of arab peoples, not just in Persia proper…Israel is completely allowed to do the things they are doing simply because of this fact.

Victor,
Please reference this site for a LONG list of links to Muslims speaking out against “terrorism” and “suicide bombers”
http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
Mind you, although “jihadists” use their interpretation of Islam to justify these acts, worldwide, Muslim leaders of INTEGRITY, not the maniacs calling for this ARE and HAVE spoken out. You CANNOT put the blame on innocent Arabs/Muslims who disproportianately suffer themselves from “Islamic terrorism”
Here is an excellent article giving the fact that while Muslims constitute 22% of the world’s population, they constitute close to HALF of the victims of “terrorism” http://www.defenddemocracy.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=263187 Quote: “Despite their rhetoric of defending Muslims from the West and its allies, Jihadists regard those Muslims who do not follow their extremist agenda as little better than infidels. Terrorists are just as likely to kill Muslims as non-Muslims” To blanketly blame ALL Muslims/Arabs is NOT justified.

Victor,
I concur with you that “sucide bombers” and such are the “given reason” for not going to the aid of the oppressed. But in the case of Israel, the US, it’s largest benefactor, was in collusion with the Zionist state of Israel and their attrocities of ethnic cleansing LONG before the first Palestinian “suicide bomber” came on the scene. The first case of modern “suicide bombing” was in Lebanon in 1980 against the Iraqi embassy there. Also, Muslims are NOT the primary users of this tactic http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2401
Quote,” Islamic fundamentalism is not as closely associated with suicide terrorism as many people think. The world leader in suicide terrorist attacks is the Marxist, secularist, and Hindu Tamil Tigers, who have perpetrated more suicide terrorist attacks than Hamas or Islamic Jihad.”. Once again, I am NOT supporting this tactic. But in light of the present day occupation which has been in force since 1967, where was the US or the rest of the world in coming to the aid of a people who were being occupied ILLEGALY in respect to UN resolution 242 and Geneva Convention?
The problem with this tactic is that it garners MUCH negative attention, whereas the aggressive actions of a Zionist state have been ignored and called “justifiable defense of their nation”. One must look not only at this tactic as a horrific self-defeating action but rather to the CAUSE of why this is occuring. By the way, when “suicide bombers” attacked a US military installment in Beirut in 1983, which is one of the FIRST uses of this tactic (during the Lebanese civil war, killing 241 US Marines) our (mine since I am American) reaction was to attack Syria but we DID get out of Beirut a few months later realizing that our presence there was more detrimental to our interests than possitive. THAT is my point, the occupation is DETRIMENTAL to Israel and this current operation will NOT stamp out Palestinian resistance but rather it will militarize it even more. You CANNOT come in with a bigger stick to get rid of this problem, you must get rid of the SOURCE of the problem and focus on THAT. In short, instead of saying these people are a bunch of crazy “terrorists”, one MUST ask the reason why and not continue to focus on the “reaction to the occupation”. It is the OCCUPATION which is wrong, and it has led to the willingness to strap bombs on oneself and blow oneself up and take as many as possible with them. Keep in mind, although there is esteem held by many for this martyrdom, how many are actually going out and volunteering for the job? It is an act of “revenge and desperation” pure and simple bred by years of oppression.

Victor,
Basically what I am asking you to do is to step back from an emotional response to acts perpetrated by Palestinian resistance fighters of all ilks and look at the situtation in it’s totality from a more academic perspective. Just a note, every single time I hear of a “suicide bombing” in Israel I CRINGE, BECAUSE of the emotional response. When emotions are running so high it is very difficult to NOT respond in an emotional way. But the ONLY way this situation is going to be brought to peace is for ALL parties
to step back and look at the root cause. Basically ask, “why are there people willing to do this” is what I am saying. Also, with the information you have been provided, it should be easier for you to both comdemn this tactic AND understand the genesis of it’s use, NOT support it. It is a SAD DESPERATE state of affairs, and Palestinians have been the victims for YEARS at the hands of a racist state seeking to cleanse their borders of their existance AND create settlements in occupied territories which further the cause for more resistance. You just need to sit back and ask “why do they hate Israel?” It did not come out of nowhere and this current incursion supposedly to free a kidnapped soldier is only Israel’s further retribution against a people whom they see as inferior to themselves.
In Solidarity for all those suffering what no child of God should ever suffer.

Victor,
Suffice it to say that I completely concur. It does NOT garner sympathy but rather disgust. I am only saying that the world, ie the west focuses MORE on this disgust than on the disgust of the occupation, thus we come full circle to choose your method wisely, *BUT* the fact remains, the larger perpetrator in this crisis is the state of Israel. Revenge never gets anyone anywhere, but the disproportionate response to received acts of “terrorism” in Israel IS the issue being discussed here. I said from the getgo this kidnapping was wrong, but this so called “rescue attempt” is NOT a rescue attempt but rather a collective act of punishment on all of Gaza. Maybe you could slip the Palestinians some “nice pills” and all will be better.

So…we see a fake rescue attempt. We see fake rescue attempts all the time. I watch movies almost every night. The fact remains, the world does not perceive Israel as the insect. This is the perception that must change. It does not matter now who the enemy or parasite is any longer, what matters now is what the world thinks the parasite is. If this is Palistine, then that will be the target. I would urge the resistance to not be resistant. The media is there with you, the world will see first hand. A camera is hard to fool, and so are humans when faced with reality first hand.

Oh, the only blog I took offence to was:

“This to inform all those people in iraq who are planning to return based on the p.m reconcillatory plan. This is a plot to identify and kill the enemy…”

Any jargon used on a website where the majority is intelligent shouldnt tollerate absolute drunkeness…

Victor,
You are confusing two different issues when you mention Bin Laden and the Palestinians all in one breath. Bin Laden’s public enemy number one from the very beginning when he came on the international scene has been the Saudi royal family for allowing the infidel country America to establish military bases in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War. His desire is to rid the Muslim world of all Western influence based on his absolute radical brand of Islam. The Palestinian’s public enemy number one is Israel. Their hatred of America stems from political reasons due to their support of the Zionist state rather than religious reasons. How many Palestinians have committed acts of “terrorism” against the West? You have to remember that Bin Laden has only been on the scene as an enemy of the US since the late 1990′s. Prior to that, he was actually an ally of the US in Afghanistan during the 1980′s when the US supported Afghan Muslim rebels fighting the USSR takeover of that country. My country has a nasty habit of supporting nefarious entities when they think they can use them to accomplish their goals. In that case, it was during the cold war and in order to stop the advance of Communism into Afghanistan, the US cozied up with the Muslim rebels fighting to oust them. But as far as Bin Laden goes, he tries his darndest to enlist just about any cause that is affiliated with Muslims under his umbrella. If you saw Palestinians, SOME Palestinians dancing over 9/11 it is because they hate the US for very different reasons than BL does. The Palestinian cause has been around for a whole lot longer than BL has and in fact gets pissed off for the most part whenever BL tries to garner more sympathy from the Muslim world at large by bringing up the Palestinian cause. So please, do not try to put the two in the same basket.
As for your request for the Palestinian resistance to stand down because the cameras are there and they don’t tell lies, I ASSURE you, that if the tanks do roll into Gaza enmasse, the journalists will be the first to go just like they have been kicked out by Israel in every other case of major military incursions. There will be news, but it will NOT be covered here in the US or Canada if it involves ugly Israeli actions. During the seige of Ramallah when the cameras were allowed in to watch the surrounding of Arafat’s offices, they were kicked out of the city elsewhere where the IOF came in and killed a large number of civilians and basically destroyed large sections of the city. The same with Sabra and Shatilla, the press was not allowed in for more than ten days later. Not even Red Cross observers were allowed in. Also, you might have an intelectual desire to have the resistance stand down, but you have absolutely no stake in the issue. Until you have lived under occupation and it’s daily incidents for your entire life if you are age 37 or under you cannot possibly even venture to suggest to them to stand down. No human being in any similar situation would chose to stand down unless their oppressor had reduced them to nothing in their humaness. THIS is what the Zionists are attempting to do but their big stick has only resulted in some VERY hardened people. Besides that, where is your request for Israel, the perpetrator of this problem from day one, to stand down? If I were you I would be focusing on the fact that if those tanks do roll into Gaza there is going to be one major bloodbath and it’s not because the Palestinians wouldn’t come out with their arms up, but rather it is an attempt by the Zionists to unseat a democratically elected government. (one that I’m not too fond of by the way, but nonetheless, it WAS democratically elected and those elections were held earlier rather than later due in great part to the insistance of the US government)and further beat a people who they WANT to stand down but won’t because they will NOT put up with this crap anymore. I wish they would BOTH stand down, but when you’ve got your life at stake, like the Palestinians do on a daily basis, it does not make for a stand-down type group of people.
Keep in mind also that there is much conflict going on between the various Palestinian factions.
But Victor and others, once again, I remind you of the topic of ,this thread (not that I haven’t gone off on a tangent), “What will they do, kill us?” When your life is reduced to the absolutely inhumane status of the daily life of a Palestinian living under the occupation, your thoughts are not the same as yours and mine. We must all keep these people in our closest hopes and prayers that this situation will pass and they will finally achieve the establishment of their own country.
In Solidarity with the Palestinian people.

Well Victor, you said it, ” They always have been, they will NOT be capable of seeing a way out (SINCE THERE NEVER HAS BEEN)?this is why they fight back. There seems to be NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
That is my point, there NEVER HAS BEEN A WAY OUT because as long as there is one Palestinian left that sees “legitimate resistance” of any kind as their right, then the Zionists will use this as an excuse to continue their policies. And you say that I am “stuck”? No Victor, I am not stuck, I am realistic.
Israel has been brought before the UN on violations on MANY occasions http://www.middleeastnews.com/unresolutionslist.html
They have ignored ALL of these resolutions. Yet you are asking the VICTIM, the Palestinians to come out waving a white flag. THAT is being STUCK in insisting that a people who have been beaten down and oppressed for YEARS to roll over and play dead when it is THEY who are the VICTIMS!!!! I have personally been to a Palestinian refugee camp and seen with my very own eyes how they live in that camp (Shatilla). If you had ANY idea whatsoever the enormity of their miserable everyday existance under the occupation and in refugee camps there is NO way you would expect them to all play nice. You would UNDERSTAND that that is the most riduculous wishful thinking on the face of this earth. Where the hell are you wishes for Israel to give up and go home? Where the heck are your requests for monies to get through for medicines for innocent children, for water, for electriciy, for food for BASIC HUMAN DIGNITY to be accepted by the Zionists for their Palestinian neighbors. Where is your outrage that Israel allows for any Jew in ANY part of the world to come to Israel and be granted citizenship under the right of return http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return yet Palestinians who were forced out in the Nakba http://www.alnakba.org/ (Make SURE you read these two links) cannot return to their homeland? Victor, you are BLAMING THE VICTIM and as much as I would like to think that it would be possible to defang the Zionist dragon by waving a white flag, this is NOT feasable whatsoever. The only way to defang this monster is for the US to stop it’s support and for Israel itself to change THEIR aggressions which are the brutalization of another group of individuals who they think of as “insects” (Your words, CERTAINLY not mine)

Look Victor, first off, I am feeling that you have no desire to learn the history of this matter. To expect a group of people to stop defending themselves is a ridicuolous proposition. I too wish that Hamas and others would stop lobbing rockets into Israel because it derails the peace process but that is NOT the entire reason for any peace process not moving forward. The peace processes thus far put forward were NOT equitable to the Palestinians. Why do you insist that the entire onus of peace be on the Palestinians? Let’s just say you are a VERY peaceful Palestinian family, eeking out your hardscrabble daily life and BAM, an Israeli rocket misses it’s target and kills your family. OR, you are that same family and one of your son get’s mixed up with the “wrong crowd” (I use these words tentatively) and gets involved in the resistance movement. Next thing you know your house has been bulldozed and you are left homeless http://www.counterpunch.org/schechla06142006.html. OR, the Israeli’s bulldozed your hardscrabble home because you supposedly don’t hold the proper building permit OR your home was bulldozed as part of collective punishment for someone in your neighborhood allegedly harboring a “terrorist” In 2004 alone Israel bulldozed 2243 Palestinian homes. Your roads are blocked and when you do attempt to cross checkpoints on your way to school or work you are stopped http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/mideast/israel.html. If you are wounded in a blast of any type or simply need to be taken to the hospital by ambulance your ambulance is stopped by the IOF
and refused access. Your water, in YOUR land, is appropriated by the state of Israel. So on and so on and so on. It is not up to the Palestinians to prove they are victims, IT IS UP TO THE WORLD to recognize this humanitarian disaster and take action against Israel. COMPLETE STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im sorry, I could just look up there, but wasn’t it you before who suggested I approach this without the emotional content?

Victor,
I do not support violence by ANYONE. Lobbing rockets into Israel and “suicide bombing” are acts of revenge which only bring BIGGER revenge. I am only stating that there is a reason why the Palestinians are doing this. They have not been given justice in YEARS and even during cease-fires the Zionists have not continued towards withdrawal from the occupied territories. There is also much consideration which needs to be paid to the internal politics of Israel. Olmert does not come from a military background and is now the one in power flexing his muscle to win support of the right wing. He’s been given sympathy due to ONE soldier being kidnapped and one young Israeli being murdered. These are WRONG acts. But your continued call for ALL Palestinians to control their behavior and lay down and roll over is just not going to happen. Israel has CONTINUED to use ANY incident as a justification for their policies. It’s just never going to happen that every single Palestinian comes to the conclusion you are asking for. BUT, if Israel withdrew their troops, changed their policies towards the Palestinians, then you could start a peace process. They are a standing army controlled by a legitimate government. It IS within their power to withdraw. They have been breaking international law since 1967 (further back actually) and THAT needs to be addressed because my stupid government continues to support them and SHOULD NOT. By the way, you know nothing of me on a personal level. I am not Palestinian but I was married to a Muslim for nine years (Saudi) and am very amicably divorced. We share a 28-year old daughter. I am American but I am pretty darn well-versed in Arab culture but beyond that am a life-long student of these matters. I have lived in Lebanon and visited refugee camps there as well as lived through six months of the Lebanese civil war. During that time I could sit on the balcony of our apartment and literally wave to the pilots in Israeli fighter jets flying over Beirut. These people are FRIGHTENING and politics aside, I wish that you would drop your insistance on a victim to roll over COMPLETELY and instead put your efforts and prayers towards stopping the perpetrator of this crisis. There are just too many innocent lives being lost throughout the years to do anything but pray for the hearts of stone of the Zionists to be changed.

Well, That is much experience…I am in complete agreement with you…I pray for the people there on a constant basis.I pray for their safety, and their resolve…since this is their only chance.

By waging war, we reap war…death beggets death…The Torah that I read says many things, and my interpretation for this instance would be to resolve the situation. I know full well that you do not support the rocket boys, but by preaching the doctrine of the Zionist…you ignite the fuel that keeps the struggle alive. They need to work on inner strength…the Zionists will kill whomever they choose regardless…but if there is no resistance, then the WORLD WILL SEE FIRST HAND that there is no struggle from these people yet they are being squashed…THAT IS HOW TO END THE OPPRESSION.

This is true, but to cause this to cease would be of greater importance.

If you have come to this site in search of news concerning the situation in Gaza you will learn that there is much suffering being experienced by the civilian population there. At times like these, the children are particularly vulnerable. Many are lying in hospitals suffering from wounds incurred in this present situation which has been going on particularly hard since the shelling on the beach of Gaza by an Israel missile ?gone astray? which killed seven members of one family. There are children in the hospitals in Gaza suffering from all sorts of health afflictions who are not receiving the medicines they need. My premature babies are at risk of dying as well as severely ill children. The power plants have been bombed and the water is in great shortage. No matter what your politics, I am sure that no one wishes for children to suffer under these circumstances. There is an organization in Berkley, CA called the Middle East Children?s Alliance which was founded to support the needs of children suffering from the various situations in the Middle East. Currently they are trying to raise the moneys necessary to ship medicines to the children in Gaza. You can send your tax-free donations to the following address:

MECA
901 Parker Street
Berkley, CA 94710
*Gaza meds memo*

or you can contact them online here:

http://www.mecaforpeace.org/GazaMeds.html

Please, if you are from North America, find it in your heart to make a donation no matter how small to this organization which is working so hard to bring help to the children there. Thank you