Comments on: It’s Open War http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/ Because Silence is Complicity! Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:10:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Howardhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-192703 Howard Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:36:54 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-192703 Look I understand Izzy's rant but he is thinking thru the prism of the Western media complex. The truth is that yes religion rides the back of many of these conflicts but if tomorrow everyone in Palestine and Lebannon was secular the Israelis would still NOT change. The issue is colonialism and control. They seek to dominate and deny. Look I understand Izzy’s rant but he is thinking thru the prism of the Western media complex. The truth is that yes religion rides the back of many of these conflicts but if tomorrow everyone in Palestine and Lebannon was secular the Israelis would still NOT change. The issue is colonialism and control. They seek to dominate and deny.

]]> By: Muslimahhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-188383 Muslimah Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:26:43 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-188383 well mimi, I wish it were a nightmare to just wake up from, and have everything back to "normal," what ever normal would be since in my life time this is all have been through "war." The reality is that I have been pushed out of my home, seen my family die infront of my eyes, and never been given the chance to live! And this was taken away from me, and I'm not the only one, from people who have the "ideology" of izzy and even you who supports him. WHY did they do this to us? Because we are Muslims! You people need to dig into the facts, it is not Muslims who are only attacking, look at your side, look at what your people are doing to us, and WE have not taken the first strike! Hizbollah did not fire the first missle! - Religion can never be Philosophy, if you believe in God, and there is only one God! Philosophy is ideology based on facts to come up with new "ideas." Religion is FACT; you can not change what has been written to make it "more ture." People have been rewrriting the Bible to suit their "ideas" perhaps that is where you people get confused! - well mimi, I wish it were a nightmare to just wake up from, and have everything back to “normal,” what ever normal would be since in my life time this is all have been through “war.”
The reality is that I have been pushed out of my home, seen my family die infront of my eyes, and never been given the chance to live!
And this was taken away from me, and I’m not the only one, from people who have the “ideology” of izzy and even you who supports him. WHY did they do this to us? Because we are Muslims!
You people need to dig into the facts, it is not Muslims who are only attacking, look at your side, look at what your people are doing to us, and WE have not taken the first strike! Hizbollah did not fire the first missle!
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Religion can never be Philosophy, if you believe in God, and there is only one God! Philosophy is ideology based on facts to come up with new “ideas.” Religion is FACT; you can not change what has been written to make it “more ture.” People have been rewrriting the Bible to suit their “ideas” perhaps that is where you people get confused!
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]]> By: mimihttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-188066 mimi Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:35:39 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-188066 Muslimah, relegion is Ideology and only partly fact and philosophy is completey fact. Philosophy is reality and relegions are wishes and dreams. The problem is, when these dreams become nightmares like in the case with all these jihad brigades and the hisbollah! I think Izzy knows what he is talking about and he is genuine and polite! Please wake up and fight the nightmares! Muslimah, relegion is Ideology and only partly fact and philosophy is completey fact. Philosophy is reality and relegions are wishes and dreams. The problem is, when these dreams become nightmares like in the case with all these jihad brigades and the hisbollah! I think Izzy knows what he is talking about and he is genuine and polite! Please wake up and fight the nightmares!

]]> By: Muslimahhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-188035 Muslimah Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:25:16 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-188035 The definition of "extinct" - no longer exsisting. If you are eliminating Islam from this world you are eliminating all it's followers, Muslims. "eliminate" doesn't necesserely mean to "kill off," which seems to be your missunderstanding. Eitherway you put it, or he (Izzy) puts it, doesnt change the fact that such a lame proposition was made. - Furthermore, Philosophy is Ideology where as Religion is Facts. Religion is the Word of Allah, and Philosophy is the words of man, how can that be the same? - Jazak Allah khair... The definition of “extinct” – no longer exsisting.
If you are eliminating Islam from this world you are eliminating all it’s followers, Muslims.
“eliminate” doesn’t necesserely mean to “kill off,” which seems to be your missunderstanding. Eitherway you put it, or he (Izzy) puts it, doesnt change the fact that such a lame proposition was made.
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Furthermore, Philosophy is Ideology where as Religion is Facts. Religion is the Word of Allah, and Philosophy is the words of man, how can that be the same?
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Jazak Allah khair…

]]> By: Samuelhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-187508 Samuel Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:14:47 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-187508 Muslimah, I repectfully continue to disagree with your assessment of Izzy's post. When you use a phrase such as "You will never extinct us all", you are portraying an idea which Izzy has not advanced. It would be better to suggest that "You will never CONVERT us all" or (even better) "You will never UNBRAINWASH us all". Your use of "extinct" is hyperbolic, I'm afraid. And yes, in fact religion is a brand of philosophy. Muslimah,

I repectfully continue to disagree with your assessment of Izzy’s post.
When you use a phrase such as “You will never extinct us all”, you are portraying an idea which Izzy has not advanced.

It would be better to suggest that “You will never CONVERT us all” or (even better) “You will never UNBRAINWASH us all”.

Your use of “extinct” is hyperbolic, I’m afraid.

And yes, in fact religion is a brand of philosophy.

]]> By: Muslimahhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-187489 Muslimah Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:32:21 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-187489 Samuel maybe you should go back and RE-READ izzy's post once again. - Philosophy is NOT Religion and Islam is NOT Philosophy. If you target Islam you ARE targeting Muslims. If Islam should be "done with" you are also saying that there should be no Muslims. - Now you should be "aware" as well of what you are interpreting. Samuel maybe you should go back and RE-READ izzy’s post once again.
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Philosophy is NOT Religion and Islam is NOT Philosophy. If you target Islam you ARE targeting Muslims. If Islam should be “done with” you are also saying that there should be no Muslims.
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Now you should be “aware” as well of what you are interpreting.

]]> By: kimmyhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-187478 kimmy Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:01:15 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-187478 Please leave Islam, Jews and Christians out of the equations! It is radicals of these religions that are the problem. The Zionists, the fundamentalists and the "I don't know what to call the radicals of the extreeme christian churches" that are the problem. If you step back and look, you will see that these religions are very much alike. All of their books have their bad sides, but their good sides are encouraged. The extreemists push the bad sides. This is OUR problem! Please leave Islam, Jews and Christians out of the equations!
It is radicals of these religions that are the problem.
The Zionists, the fundamentalists and the “I don’t know what to call the radicals of the extreeme christian churches” that are the problem.
If you step back and look, you will see that these religions are very much alike.
All of their books have their bad sides, but their good sides are encouraged.
The extreemists push the bad sides.
This is OUR problem!

]]> By: Samuelhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-187253 Samuel Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:03:13 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-187253 I do not think that Nigel Featherston ("Izzy") means to suggest that Muslims should be exterminated, rather that Islam should be done away with. You might disagree with that sentiment, but please be aware of what your are disagreeing with. He is essentially suggesting that the world would be better of without Islam and he is using the examples of increased Middle East violence compared to relative peace in more Christian nations to back his idea. From what I read, it's not about the people, just about their philosophy. I do not think that Nigel Featherston (“Izzy”) means to suggest that Muslims should be exterminated, rather that Islam should be done away with.

You might disagree with that sentiment, but please be aware of what your are disagreeing with.

He is essentially suggesting that the world would be better of without Islam and he is using the examples of increased Middle East violence compared to relative peace in more Christian nations to back his idea.

From what I read, it’s not about the people, just about their philosophy.

]]> By: saminahttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-186225 samina Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:53:25 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-186225 We need to identify all potential organization acting against our interests. If it is an all out war so be it. Israeli and American Terrorist funding organizations, NGO's, people working for it. We need to create a complete list of Western sponsored terrorism organizations. Their funding sources and strike at their economic interests, their military and nuclear installation if they harm our civilian. They are justifying ethnic cleansing of the muslims. Izzy says that a world without muslims is a better place. The same ideology is of Mr. Bush, Blair and other Western allies. There should be coordinated strike against all their installation in all parts of the world if they have openly declared war against all the muslims around the world. We need to identify all potential organization acting against our interests. If it is an all out war so be it. Israeli and American Terrorist funding organizations, NGO’s, people working for it. We need to create a complete list of Western sponsored terrorism organizations. Their funding sources and strike at their economic interests, their military and nuclear installation if they harm our civilian. They are justifying ethnic cleansing of the muslims. Izzy says that a world without muslims is a better place. The same ideology is of Mr. Bush, Blair and other Western allies. There should be coordinated strike against all their installation in all parts of the world if they have openly declared war against all the muslims around the world.

]]> By: Muslimahhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-186205 Muslimah Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:21:08 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-186205 Izzy, it is not Islam who is at war with the world it is the world who is at war with Islam. You have stated " Am beginning to believe Islam is a cancer that must be excised from humanity." That is exactly what your peoples are upto, and we as Muslims will never let our Islam down, we will never let you "extinct" us all. You are just one of your people who said it openly, and I wish the whole world could just see that "sick" phrase of yours. Izzy, it is not Islam who is at war with the world it is the world who is at war with Islam.
You have stated ” Am beginning to believe Islam is a cancer that must be excised from humanity.” That is exactly what your peoples are upto, and we as Muslims will never let our Islam down, we will never let you “extinct” us all. You are just one of your people who said it openly, and I wish the whole world could just see that “sick” phrase of yours.

]]> By: Izzyhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-185947 Izzy Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:23:35 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-185947 ya know .. I take a look around this world .. I see Muslims at war with Hindu's .. I see Muslims at war with Jews .. I see Muslims at war with Christians I look around this world .. I do NOT see Hindu's at war with Christians .. I do NOT see Christians at war with Jews .. I do NOT see Jews at war with Hindu's. Maybe .. just maybe .. if we want peace in this world .. then perhaps the way is to rid this world of Muslims .. I realize that is not a very nice thing to think .. but at some point, ya gotta face the reality that Muslims worship death. They bring pain and murder to every corner of the globe. Am weary of the constant violence Muslims inflict upon all the peoples of this planet. Am beginning to believe Islam is a cancer that must be excised from humanity. I realize that is a harsh thing to think .. but as I watch Islam at war with all the peoples of the world .. decade after decade after decade .. well .. sometimes you gotta believe what you see .. and I see a world without Islam .. at peace. ya know .. I take a look around this world .. I see Muslims at war with Hindu’s .. I see Muslims at war with Jews .. I see Muslims at war with Christians

I look around this world .. I do NOT see Hindu’s at war with Christians .. I do NOT see Christians at war with Jews .. I do NOT see Jews at war with Hindu’s.

Maybe .. just maybe .. if we want peace in this world .. then perhaps the way is to rid this world of Muslims .. I realize that is not a very nice thing to think .. but at some point, ya gotta face the reality that Muslims worship death. They bring pain and murder to every corner of the globe.

Am weary of the constant violence Muslims inflict upon all the peoples of this planet. Am beginning to believe Islam is a cancer that must be excised from humanity. I realize that is a harsh thing to think .. but as I watch Islam at war with all the peoples of the world .. decade after decade after decade .. well .. sometimes you gotta believe what you see .. and I see a world without Islam .. at peace.

]]> By: andyhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-185927 andy Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:20:57 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-185927 Im sorry i think i missunderstood you i can actually see why they would celebrate soldiers getting killed but what im trying to say and im not doing a good job of it is that.The celebration will only last a short time and sooner or later the israelis will hit back worse Im sorry i think i missunderstood you i can actually see why they would celebrate soldiers getting killed but what im trying to say and im not doing a good job of it is that.The celebration will only last a short time and sooner or later the israelis will hit back worse

]]> By: andyhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-185915 andy Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:15:54 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-185915 Im sorry i think i miss understood you Im sorry i think i miss understood you

]]> By: andyhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-185907 andy Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:13:38 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-185907 So you are saying to me that the deaths of people in leabnon will be worth it if they manage to kill some israelis soldiers. So you are saying to me that the deaths of people in leabnon will be worth it if they manage to kill some israelis soldiers.

]]> By: Haithamhttp://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/14/its-open-war/#comment-185782 Haitham Sat, 15 Jul 2006 06:21:07 +0000 http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1427#comment-185782 andy, It is worth it. As you said, the destruction machine of the terrorist army of Israel is much huger and cause more damage than Hezbollah does in Israel. While I wish no harm for any civilian on both sides, however since it is war, we have no option but to stand by those under fire and support them. Destroying a warship and killing even one Israeli solider is something that those people under occupation are not used to hear, so I understand their reasons to celebrate it. As I said before, in this war, and under existing condition, no doubt that Israel is going to create more damage, but it will sooner or later end, and they will negotiate with Hezbollah. So, why doing all this in first place? As Hamzeh and others said above, Israel is just practicing what they were planning to do long time ago. It has nothing to do with the PoW. andy,

It is worth it. As you said, the destruction machine of the terrorist army of Israel is much huger and cause more damage than Hezbollah does in Israel.

While I wish no harm for any civilian on both sides, however since it is war, we have no option but to stand by those under fire and support them.

Destroying a warship and killing even one Israeli solider is something that those people under occupation are not used to hear, so I understand their reasons to celebrate it.

As I said before, in this war, and under existing condition, no doubt that Israel is going to create more damage, but it will sooner or later end, and they will negotiate with Hezbollah. So, why doing all this in first place?

As Hamzeh and others said above, Israel is just practicing what they were planning to do long time ago. It has nothing to do with the PoW.

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