Photo of the day: Israeli kids sends gifts of love to Arab kids

Maybe if they press a littler harder those bombs will blow up in their faces!

I keep writing and erasing my words of description, where im comming to conclude there is no word to express myslef; it has gone beyond words to say how I feel when I see pictures like these! I cry instead…

Oh Shit…I can’t beleive they’re kids…

Only a number of months ago, Hezbollah openly threatened to abduct Israeli soldiers. Just last week, Hezbollah actually entered into Israeli territory, killed two soldiers and kidnapped two others. That is where this conflict started.

The Israeli government is responsible for the safety of its own Christian, Druze, Jewish and Muslim citizens. Likewise, I think that the people of Lebanon should complain to their own leaders – not to Israel – if they feel not well enough protected.

Hezbollah is running ‘a state within a state’ in Lebanon. Why should you blame Israel for your own problem? You see that this does not solve it, but makes it worse. My advice: disarm Hezbollah or tell them to get lost!

Long live Lebanon! Long live Israel!

really they have no kid soul !

Who are THE PARENTS who would encourage this sort of thing? Let me smack them.

Please no – don’t hate, don’t smack, don’t wish for bombs to blow up in ANY children’s faces. Let us wage peace, and find tools to act for justice. Sharing information is good, but must lead to steps to make these hateful actions stop. I fear a “rising up” is necessary – our letter writing to Congress and candle light vigilling on street corners hasn’t been working. Soon we may have to put our bodies on the line. Look at these little Lebanese bodies, and Palestinian bodies, and Iraqi bodies, and American troops bodies – how can we NOT put our own bodies on the line?

We don’t have a leader like Gandhi or MLK, but let’s get prepared anyway.

Thats just simply disturbing more than it is shocking. Just Unbelievable!

(Dont try this at home KIDS!!!)

Israel is a beacon of love and peace on the world. Don’t listen to anybody who says otherwise. Arabs are the mean ones. Jews are pure and are the favorite of God. God says to kill arabs and that’s why these kids do this. They want gods approval.

What a bunch of scum huh?

Appalling. I posted it. Thank God you caught it.

yeah michael…did they at least killed anyone?
now,can you say the same about the above Israeli girls,(who are the 3rd generations of the Holocoust survivors.)

Applauding a rocket with “From Israel and Danielle…” make you a murderer than dressing as one.

They have bloood in their hands.

Totally speechless…..when are the injustices going to stop !!Long live Palestine and the people of Lebanon’

They are so cute. Children are innocent on all sides of this conflict. They learn from their parents.

Lebanese thank Israel and offer to help defeat Hezbollah. It’s over for the Army of God… God doesn’t need Armies Thank you.

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/17/photo-of-the-day-israeli-kids-sends-gifts-of-love-to-arab-kids/

Hezbollah youth…
http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Pictures/young-hezbollah-01.jpg

Sabbah, such a lovely name. It means “morning”.

Never stop telling the truth and exposing the real face of Israel.

Thank you (sukran) for showing us these pictures that will NEVER be seen by the west.

Don’t let Israeli hatred become your own. You are the next generation. Rise above it.

Stay safe Sabbah, Allahkursun!

Michael, I’m sorry perhaps you missed my point or I wasn’t very clear. What I am saying is that this behavior (condoning or encouraging violence against other human beings) is unacceptable regardless of who is practicing, espousing, or teaching it. Responding violently to violence does nothing but feed an evil flame by continued provocation. What would happen if Israel or Palestine just refused to kill any more and chalked their own losses up to a sacrifice for a greater cause (e.g., life and cohabitation)?

This is the sickest thing i have ever seen .. makes my stomach is lurching !

Thanks Sabbah for the link.

You guys, i think the posting of this picture is to show that while the rest of the world sees a few Palestinians teaching their children hate and dressing them up in fighting gear, unfortunately, when Israelis do something wrong, the west never sees it or hears about it. Well finally here is some proof, which goes to show every one that the Israeli government (not the Israeli people) also holds a great deal of blame, maybe even more because their collective punishment is not working!

And as for teaching hate in schools, what do the hardcore zionists teach their children in school? whats their anthem? oh yeah, the plan on taking over the middle east, “from the Euphrates to the Nile.”

John, just show me justice, you know two families, one strong family occupied the house of the other family and killed 9 of their children, while only one of its children has been killed, judge on them, is it usual for your principles to stand with the family that occupied and killed and consider your self fair?

Sabbah, this is how democracy is spread. Listen what Prime Minister of Israel told to leaders in middle east. That they will end up like saddam hussein.

Sabbah, it is much safer and people respect the law in middle east unlike in america or israel,britain or switzerland. Where the laws are different for different people. One who holds the gun is the sheriff in those cow boy land. That is the language they speak and do.

Arab league should enforce laws that should restrict any access to israel land, water or through see. We should impose sanctions against israel. Arab league should block all the ships heading toward israeli water anywhere in the world. they need to pass throug our waters.

Peace process is dead – Arab league. Also, No country in this world nor its citizens acknowledge United Nations. Why don’t we initiate a poll if people acknowledge the United Nations as an impartial and unbiased organization. Aiyn has triggered a very thoughtful and very important subject which needs to be discussed.

Also we should also initiate a movement around the globe to either ratify United Nations or just pull it down. I hope you are listen Kofi Annan. Are u a puppet of Bush and Blair and the holy queen or do u represent the international community. Are you are just a mere toothless tiger or dummy.
An illegal war in iraq but still america, britain and the holy queen are not accountable. By the way people do u know that queen is the head of the state and people of iraq can sue her for the war. or you can justify any reaction against her directly.

For John: when the palastinean teenagers watch themselves being killed & orphaned,& thier families & neighbors being slaughtered while the WHOLE WIDE WORLD is watching, justifying & covering thier massacres, then i guess taking some of ur murderers with U would make a bit of sense, dont u think!

As 4 miri: The United States government & the Israeli government, eliminated words like FAIR, JUSTICE, REASON & ” How could this Be” from mankind’s dictionary.
U said there is nothing wrong in writing messages on missiles for the ones who started it , i am with u , but should it be done by kids, shouldnt those kids be as far as possible from such military sites , like playin games and stuff!
Their parents & soldiers may tell them its addressed for Hizbolla or enemies, but they r only targeting kids, infants, women and innocent ppl, DESPITE ALL THE TECHNOLOGICAL PRECISION & ACCURACY THEY HAVE!!!

Plz i hope that everybody forget thier belongingness & thier wrongfully preplanted thoughts, and lets all act like we R aliens who have just arrived from Mars and we r watchin whats goin on by our own eyes and not by some truth-concealing media, and then i am sure our judgement will B more than fair & satisfying for the human conscience & dignity.

These are not messages for Arab kids, these are messages to Hizbollah rocket launchers which these guns are targetting. Hizbollah fired over 2000 rockets last week at those Israeli kids.

If you think you would be more noble than these kids after living in a bomb shelter for 7 days while Nassrallah keeps appearing on TV promising to kill you, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Kiryat Shmona is one of the most intensively bombarded places in the Middle East, since 1978 when Fateh first began sending Katyushas over the border. Not only these children will grow up under fire, but their parents as well, grew up spending significant time in bomb shelters, subject to a bombardment that in ’78, ’82-’83 rivalled any bombardment in Gaza or Lebanon. The false quiet of 2000-6, in which the only civilians killed were Israelis dead at the hands of Lebanese, is now over…and a message to Nasrallah is appropriate. However, bringing kids into the proximity of high explosive, no matter how stable, is not, especially since the shells in the photograph are already fused (apparently) and are therefore “live.”

Haitham, They are sending UN peace keepers itseems, WOuld it be like the Serebrenica Massacre of Palestinian and Lebaneese. The ethnic cleansing would be under the blessings of UNited Nations now.

Why is the arab leagues keeping quiet. Arab League should deploy its forces now for ground offensive

Why Does Everyone think that wut they hear on the news from the Israeli or any of the west is true u think that this has all started because of 2 kidnapped soldiers unprovoked.Israel is the only country in the world that does political assassination and nobody says anythang they have bin doin opperations in sercret in lebanon for decades.when a israel does somthan the are defendin them selfs but when an arab does it there a terrorist Wake Up people.

OK now I get it. When the Palestinians train their kids to wear suicide belts you’re quiet. Now all of sudden you love kids. Gimme a break!

This reply is for Israeli…
I am sorry u feel that way.. but at least ur kids have found shelter when Hizbullah promised to kill them or even fired at them..
but our kids (lebaneese and palestinian) have no where to go and even if a shelter was found thanks for the israellian they’ll bomb it anyway as was done in Qana 1996 or should i say more…

As an Israeli I can read the hebrew text.
One line says’ “Iv’e been waiting for this a long time”, and the name “Nasrallah” appears. The shell was definitely dedicated to Nasrallah, and not to his neighbour’s children.

Unfortunaltely, Nasrallah runs his campaign against the civilian population of Israel established and internationally recognized cities, from Lebanon, A country with which the border is recognized, form a bunker in a densely populated area.

Combining the 2 pictures is obviously false propaganda.

Condolences to everyone living in Lebanon, Gaza Strip, or anywhere else, who suffer the consequences of terrorist actions done by his neighbor

I’m Sorry Haitham! I know your name well… but at the time of writing the comment I was reading an email from my friend Ahmad Sabbah, so I guess it was so much for my brain :P
The link is in the post, thank you.

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I’m very confused. It appears to me that you violate your own rules by posting this creation in your blog. You create a message and then later say it is imaginary. If you are not fanning the flames of hatred then please explain your purpose?

I’m sure you won’t post this but I feel better for sending it.

Every dead Child is one TERORIST LESS , YOU ARE KILLING MY TERRORISTS STOP!!!!

Appalled.

Slidehsow of pictures: “”

well, now we see exactly why people tend to hate the israelis. the events of the past few DECADES is more than enough info; the squatting israelis are leading the way to their own certain destruction. well, the bright side of that thought is that when, not if, someone nukes them, we will not have to put up with them anymore and the jews own prophecies will become self-fulfilled. perhaps then the jews will understand exactly what they have been chosen for: persecution. these people have been chosen by god himself for persecution and they are sick of it. they believe that they are untouchable, opposite of being persecuted. they have reversed their own beliefs to fit their own selfish desires. so they’re greedy, smug, condescending, hateful and just plain mean. now they’re spreading their ‘religion’ elsewhere, like annoying birds shitting everywhere.

i’m cheering for the palestinians, the lebanese, the iranians, the syrians… the entire middle east. israel can go to hell (oh, wait; they’re already there…).

I go with Joe Rufo’s suggestion. Moving Israel to a land among the vast United States its ally would RADICALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM and i assure u it will put an end to all violence in the region. Arabs will live happily with no wars , and Israel will live in peace too far from its enemies. I wish that all of them approve on this idea if they really want to end violence.

A short reply for Silvia: We all mourn kids & innocent wherever they were and to whom ever they belonged to. NY kids are as dear as our kids to us.
The unfairness & tyranny excuted by Israel & the United States towards any nation would result in the emerging of desperate ppl who would try to let out some of the supression they r suffering cuz they have no armies or ways to defend themselves, all they can do is watch their countries being occupied and citizens being killed. Some will try to do something about it and it certainly wont B good. United States created ppl like Bin laden & Zarqawi which i am sure they will both burn in hell along with Bush & Rice cuz they are as guilty as they R, they gave me ” reason” and they made them lose their heads , cuz not all ppl can take it or tolerate what the average man can tolerate, some ppl lose it and start thinking wrongfully & with perversion. But there is ALSO no excuse for the terrorism exercised by countries , cuz they shud know better , and they r not some straying person but cuz they r supposed to B civilized and they represent a whole nation.
Anyways , a lot can B said , but i hope that in the End GOOD prevails.

The two israeli soldiers were made prisonners by Hezbollah resistance fighters ON the Lebanese territory where their sqad penetrated (what they regularly do). And in Israel there are dozens of Lebanese people still in jail (not counting the more than 1000 Palestinians). So the Lebanese have the entire right according to international law to defend their territory and they have the right to make prisonners of war.
When I see these pictures of children, I just remind myself about the German children who were also “taught” about Slavic or Jewish “terrorists” that need to be killed, like in the Warsaw ghetto.
This proves all human beings are equal, in good and bad. The Jews are not worst (as Nazis thought) and not better (as the Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and now Iraqis know). These children are not responsible but their parents will go to hell for that.

Sad that kids, being innocent and all, are shown in this way. Just because these pictures are of Israeli girls, I’m sure there are plenty of other examples of ADULTS teaching their own CHILDREN hate towards another group of people…hear me Palestine, I’ve seen the documentries, you’re no angel either when it comes to teaching your children love and respect for all human beings…

I am so tired of all this – how long will it take all of these people to realize how stupid and immature they look to the rest of the world? I am bored beyond caring anymore for this situation and it’s so sad that, even now, in the 21st century, we’re still dealing with this kind of stupidity.

According to http://www.geohive.com, Israel’s population is estimated at 6.35 million on July 1, 2006. Using the same website, the occupied Palestinian territory has about 3.89 million. Together, they have roughly 10.24 million people in these 2 countries – or, to put it another way, these 2 countries have less people than Moscow, the 20th largest city in the world. Even worse, using the same website, http://www.geohive.com, the Earth’s total human population was estimated to be 6.53 BILLION on July 1, 2006. This means that so much news, so much drama, so much BULLSHIT is put into our daily lives from this “situation” for .00157% of the total population on this planet – what a joke. There is so much more all the people of this region could be doing to contribute to the world – instead, we get to watch their hate and propaganda (FROM BOTH SIDES) day in and day out, every single day, on TV, in print, and now on hundreds of websites like this – I’m sick and tired of it, grow up, quit being barbarians, and try to join civilization in the 21st century already.

Maybe quit teaching your kids hate (EVERYWHERE), start practicing being respectful towards others – even if they’re not the same religion as you – and start working towards a goal of living in peace – TOGETHER. This goes to all the people of this region. Being fed up with your drama bullshit is an understatement – do something positive with your lives and don’t be remembered, more so than you already are, for being evil and full of hate – all because of religion and not being able to agree on property…

Correction, perhaps not “supported”, sinnce there was no official war in some countries I stated, but clearly they had the power to stop these agressions! They didn’t, or for some it was far too late.

Silvia and all other americans or allies of the americans. Perhaps you people only listen or are used to the words of steel. In your lands, one who holds the gun becomes the sheriff or the one who dictates the law. Isn’t it true. What would you do when some body holds the gun against your children? Israeli’s are holding missiles and nuclear war heads on our children. So we are just merely reacting. O by the way, british or american, in your land the bigger the gun you have the longer the title such as “LORD” or “SIR”.

You fought for your independence isn’t it. Fought from the British isn’t it.The German’s they would say that foreignors are not allowed to stay, French also they say that if you are foreignor you do not have the right to stay or hold position. So are the italians. The Swiss they wouldnt allow any foreignor to stay in their lands. Why is that you fought war against HITLER for occupying your lands.

All the palestinians are fighting for their land. Your leader’s say ” we need to create conditions so that the arabs come to the negotiation table. Mr. Blair and Mr.Bush were caught on tape. So be it Mr.Blair we are prepared for it, you are acting god. You want to nuke our children our lands with nuclear weapons. We shall embrace it. O by the way Queen, we shall send you some blood of our children for the holy grail and the mass. What would you like to eat children or would you like human parts of people from IRAQ to look much younger.

With Mr. Bush asking condi to make a trip to middle east to sort things out. There are quite a lot of negotiations being carried out across the table with egyptian minister’s visit in USA. Situation Analysis is that condi is trying to buy the situation out by involving egyptian negotiators in place. Which would help her as a leaveraging arm. Consider the other angle with french moving in for a negotiation and european foreign affairs minister try to do some damage control. There is little hope from both sides that they do not have any remote control or slightest idea to control hamas and hezbollah. One tactical outcome would be to create situation by involving syria into a military conflict. In washington, this idea is sending chil down the spine of Mr. Bush and Blair. A mess in IRAQ and Mr. Bush wishes to control things. Hezbollah has tactical, strategic and military advantage of its warfare. An alliance with Al-qaeda would make it extremely powerful and there is speculation with in MI5 circles and CIA that with these organization collaborating the situation would explode that it would send ripples in their lands.

It is indeed a very strategic and tactical move by the arabs declaring that Mideast peace process is “dead”. American and international community now will search of a means through the united nations. The same united nations, where in the proposal of qatar was vetoed by the americans and syrian ministers are blocked from free speech. This is an unwelcoming message and hostile act of war against all the middle east nations. With worseneing relations with pakistan and taliban fighting back and capturing 2 towns. The media is downplaying an already scribed defeat. Arab nations and their allies should stand by the strategies, involve in naval blockade based on Arab League and reaction to the veto of resolution against israeli aggression against its territories. More wore by internation conventions and international law, syria is on a tactical advantage of provacative and threat to its national security by flying a military jet f16 just over the Syrian Presidential Palace. Consider a similar scenario, if this happened with Northkoreans flying a jet over White house or Japanese counter parts. It would account to breach to security of state and war is declared over night. According to international law, any act unprovoked by any state, a nation can react as self defense. Thats what syrians should be ready and prepared to do. The americans and british have alot of stakes to loose. This is the oppurtunity arabs should cash in on. We have seen pearl harbours created. Let me repeat the words of the director Mr. TOny Blair ” we need to create conditions …. “. What are we waiting for, we have got the motive and act of self defense and territorial integrity of a nation called lebanon, syria, iran and greater middle east, Pakistan under threat (no territorial integrity is gauranteed Mr. Pervez Musharaff, i hope you will not enter the history books as a fool who believed blindly the americans, your are certainly on your way out there ).

The Arab league should manauver should emphasize it and should project it as an international power, by drafting resolutions to block shipment of military, economic and food aid to israel through land, air, water. So, should we mobilise non-coperating nations such as jordan and egypt to comply with the resolutions and directives for the interest of preserving territorial integrity and safegaurding its interests. This would certainly give enough time to iran to boot the europeans a bit. With Mr.Blair and Bush busy with conditions dealing with alqaeda, hamas and hezbollah should have tactical advantage on two fronts. Middle-east nations should keep their military personnel on extreme high alert ready to strike the enemy quick and fast simultaneously, U.S bases in iraq and israeli military installations all over. Do not forget tajikistan U.S base.

Mr.Blair has in the mean time mobilised some of his key personnel to dubai and to iraq for intelligence gathering about iran and syria. Before condi could get into iraq there shall be a situation breif up to her so that she could play the cards properly.

Shall keep you posted on the situation analyis.

In response to maori:

I am British, and have lived in this country all my life. I have never lived in fear of a rocket falling from the sky, or of the morning not arriving. I live a relatively easy life, without persecution and generally without fear. I can never appreciate what it must be like to hear the screams of artillery, to see homes demolished and friends and neighbours killed.

Please understand though, the fight should never be against the British or Americans in the same way it should never be against the Lebanese or the Palestinians or the Iraqis or any other nationality. In the same way that not every Lebanese wants rockets fired into Haifa, not every British person supports Israeli actions. Not every American person wants US troops in Iraq. Attacking an entire people will never yield any good, but only produce more barriers and borders, and distracts from the issue, which is that rockets are flying across the border in both directions killing children and women and men and mothers and fathers and sons and daugters.

There is propaganda on every side. There are lies and liars who broadcast them from the safety of a London office, or a concrete bunker. There are those who want nothing more than all out war, the final settlement of all sums due.

The only way to fight this is to stop and realise that every rocket fired is one more step into the long good-night. The only way to fight it is through education and understanding. I have only found this site today, and it is the first site I have found that does not have the western perspective. I come to discuss, to find out, so that I can understand what I can do to help.

After the bombings in London last year I thought maybe there could be some good. That for a small moment the people of my country would understand the devastation that daily touches the lives of those who live in the middle east. It was not to be. The propaganda machine that runs throughout my small island turned it again into an excuse for more nuclear weapons, for more troops, for more hatred. Everyday those of us who understand a small part of the situation attempt to discuss and paint the full picture. To move people past the idea that everyone in the middle east wants to strap a bomb to themselves and kill white wealthy westerners.

You made the point that the person with the largest Gun can do what they like in our society. If you replace the word Gun for Money then that is very close to the truth. But this will change, or I will spend my life screaming in the streets, throigh letterboxes and doorways for people to wake up. Please help us though, I learn nothing from attacks and insults on my nationality (though I understand the reasons), but I learn through your words, through the truth that you can pass on through all these miles to a friend in the west.

i cant beleive kids even israelian kids coz i think they have sence same as us ca do WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!!

Joe #164
You are asking the wrong question. Instead of asking God or Allah you should be asking Yahweh what he would want
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story452.html
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

Besides that, how on earth are you going to change the minds of all the parties? It is one group, no matter where you place them on this earth, who will always feel they are superior to all others. As for my last suggestion in the above post of how we as Americans should suffer in your relocation plan, I suggest that those Americans who must be relocated to accomodate the influx of people who have somehow been drugged into thinking New Jersey and a few more miles down the coast and inland are REALLY the land God promised them, I offer the actual equal for equal method in which the Palestinians were displaced in order to accomodate the Zionists’ last major relocation plot http://www.alnakba.org/ You see Joe, we here in the US have NO CLUE the hatred spewed at the Palestinians by the Zionists from DAY ONE. This picture above is absolutely not surprising to me at all. These children are being told a lie, that these missiles are aimed only at Nasrallah, but actually, if a few miss and kill innocent civilians, that’s ok too because Arabs are but “mere donkeys of men” who are the lowest of the low. You wonder why your plan is but a mere pipe dream, go ask any Zionist and he will tell you why. It is really nice of you to offer up a piece of one of America’s coastal communities though. What law are you going to use to get those people to move? Emminant Domain? Let’s just see how many Americans would fathom for a minute to put themselves in that place.
In solidarity with Palestine and the peoples of Lebanon.

If anyone wants the truth and not just emotionally hyped propaganda about these photos, I recommend clicking this link to Sanmonkey’s blog.

Hold it people, how Israel was created by terrorists from the Stern and Hagana gangs, they terrorized the entire region…now this terror organization is the democratic state of Israel. think about.it. It is hard to believe that the Arabs made mistake after mistake since 1948…Israel is pure and honest to the world and depict the arabs as blood thirsty…Hizballah and Hamas are doing the same but on their land….that is resistance. No man will accept occupation,Europe fought Hitler, Algeria fought the Fench, India fought the British… and we are fighting in the same manner.

Oh don’t act so shocked and disgusted by this. I don’t see people horrified when some Palestinian suicide bomber blows himself and 20 civilians up on a bus or in front of a restaurant. Gimme a break. At least the Israelis are targeting the military wheras the Palestinians are solely targeting civilians.

Muslimah,
He is an Egyptian Arab (and Muslim). His statement is “snarky,” i.e. smart-assed and cynical! He just doesn’t find it necessary to follow the herd, so to speak. The description if his other blog and of himself is sarcastic and intended to ruffle the feathers of detractors. In his blog he criticized the “decorating” of the artillery. But in the interest of accuracy, he contacted someone who would be able to verify the reliability of the photos. This being done, he found that they were egged on by some of the TWELVE photographers there to write a little message to Nasrallah (as opposed to the children of Lebanon, which is not only the words, but the intention, hint hint).
Besides, it is common practice to write a message to the “bad guy” on artillery. Big flippin’ deal. And Nasrallah is a bad guy, like it or not. Love or hate Israel, he is a monster. My only issue is that children should not have had access to that weaponry. An Israeli on Sandmonkey’s blog pointed out that whoever was in charge of that post will likely be in deep doo-doo.
Images by photojournalists can be manipulated to serve all kinds of purposes. “A picture is worth 1000 words.” The problem is, those words are very much open to (mis)interpretation. Those words can be written to mean many different things, depending on who is using the photo. Frankly, the meaning in the photo is irrelevant based on 3 things:
1) It was more or less staged.
2) What side of the conflict you are on may easily dictate your feelings about the message.
3) The photo can be extrapolated to mean something that it never could logically mean, as in the quote below:

Hate, disgust, extreme?. I don?t know what word can describe these photos. And they say that we are teaching our kids hate to Israelis! ?The above message is imaginary. It is not what I see written on the bombs (although it might be written on some but we can?t see), it is just what this entire thing means. The girls might be signing the bombs to be send to Nasrallah and Hezbollah, but the bomb are falling on civilian heads, not Nasrallh!

Photos are not reality, but tools to paint the artist’s ideas. And like all art, they are subject to many interpretations, mostly erroneous ones.

how Israel was created by terrorists from child and their generations. it’s true babaric country must be deleted form world map. so our world become in peace

My heart is brocken.

DEATH TOLL:

Israeli Army: 12
Israeli civilians: 13
HISBULAH fighters: 5 (but seriously, it almost looks like IDF is actually trying to miss the hisbolah fighters!!)
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Lebanese civilians > 220 !!
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these stats speak for themselves!

It shouldn’t matter if a terrorist is using a knife or an american-made F-16 or Howitzer, however the zionist-owned Fox, Time, NY Times, CBS, ABC, and countless others that decide the american public opinion on behalf of them, would tell you otherwise.
(read: http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/)

Israel is simply preparing the U.S to do its bidding again in Syria and Iran, like it sent the americans to die in Iraq on its behalf (who was the ONLY beneficiary from the war on Iraq? Israel and only Israel who got rid of its main rival in the middle east, and certainly it didn’t America nor the Iraqis)

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AMERICA – WAKE UP AND SMELL THE STINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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STOP CIVILIAN BOMBING NOW!
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ALL CHILDREN KILLERS AND THEIR ADVOCATES SHALT DESERVINGLY GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t think Islam, the religion, is the source of conflict as Izzy suggests. I think the issue has less to do with religion (or philosophy as Samuel clarifies) and more to do with simple economics and politics. Religion is used to galvanize forces into action, but it is rarely the fundamental rationale for why those people are fighting. Such is the case in Palestine and Kashmir as much as it is in Sri Lanka or Colombia where you have Tamils fighting Hindus and Marxist Christians fighting Capitalist Christians.

O Jews ! You can kill all the Muslim People you like ! But there will come a time when we Muslims by the help of ALLAH the Almighty will defeat you and reconquer our pride.
There will come a time when Mahdi and Jesus will rise. O we will eliminate this Jewish race . You can run but u cannot hide. So fear that day !!!!!!!!
I know you people have this fear in your blackened hearts !!!!!

What do you do to a man who:
becomes a militant fundamentalist,
arms himself against anyone who opposes his views,
forces people to flee their homes,
aids in illegal immigration,
and acquires weapons and strategic alliances, advanced jet fighters and nuclear power in the advancement of his goals?

First:
You award him a Nobel Peace Prize.

Next:
You build a peace center which honours him by carrying his peaceful image even further into the record books.

Indeed, with role models of this sort, you build a mighty nation, one within which even the children disregard the realities of their actions in favor of a nationalist cause.

The name of this brave and upstanding man, this ‘dove’ amongst ‘hawks’?

Shimon Peres
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres
http://www.peres-center.org/

Let us emulate this man.
His message:
Forget the over 200 Lebanese and every Palestinian civilian murdered by our actions. They are of no consequence.

History is indeed written by the victor.

No way these pictures (The top 3) are real!!!! It is a false & vicious anti Israeli propaganda. Please don’t belive it. It is so refuted and tendentious, I swear to god.

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2006%20News%20Archives/July/17%20n/American%20family%20brutally%20assaulted%20at%20Israeli%20checkpoint%20The%20tragic%20Story%20of%20Tina%20and%20Michael%20Hannouneh.htm

Zionist=Illumnati=Nazis=Satan
not Jews is a religion of the one God
Muslims=Christian=Budist=Judaism=Peace
See Illumnati http://www.lonelantern.org/illuminati1.html
If you beleive in death then you worship the king of lies.

also see China http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/170406China.htm

I don’t know what to say as an American except my government is imprisoning and killig us and our children while our furer destroys our credabilty throughout the world.

what do u expect from a purely racist category of people such as the bloody israili zionists???

let’s think for a second, why would palestinians or lebanese or any other arab country for that matter would want to hit israel?

did israel kick people out of their land? YES
did israel respect human rights? NO
does israel have the right to abuse? NO
did israel torture individuals and families? OF COURSE YES

am not gonna go on and on, we all know that israel is a PEST in the middle east. it doesnt belong there, it’s like having cancer in your body, and israel is cancer to the middle east.

am not being anti-semitic in any way, i am not against jews, am against israeli agression. to those who said that israelis are the chosen people of god, you are mistaken, why would god want his chosen people to suffer that much (I DONT PITTY YOU AT ALL, I ONLY PITTY YOU FOR BEING SO DAMN MEAN) everyone are god’s children, stop being so stuck up and it’s about time to stop having the FOLIE DES GRANDEURS.

please visit http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org and check what ISRAELIS are doing.

to carla
sorry, but allah is grandiose than all, and muslims will finnaly win and keep the peace in EArth, it is written in our holy coran , it’s a reality,
to die in fighting ennemies of allah and muslims is a billion time better than live as monkey under their reign

Dear all,

It is such disgusting to see both kids writing messages on artillery (whatever the target is we always know that it is the civilians, kids, mothers who die in wars..don’t we?) and kids(even some with mental handicap) who wore bombs on them to detonate them at a checkpoint. It is the very fact that the support for occupation is neverending in israel, the support for the discrimination wall that turns the life of palestinians into an open air prison is no recent news as well. This time Lebanon is tried to be turned into a n open air prison for the Lebanese, time to open our eyes friends, no self-defence can be meant to bomb international roads and international airports, no self-defense can be meant to besiege a country from all possible ports of entry. I believe the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign country in Mid. East however respecting the borders of 1967 and finally accepting the fact that they HAVE to co-exist with their neighbours and grant the palestinians the very right of independence which they proudly proclaim for themselves.

With greetings from Turkey to all Mid. East,
May peace -first- prevail in Mid. East

The photos were SET UP. They have NO MEANING. Get over it. My previous posts (192 & 203) spell this out.
But then, the well of ant-semitism has burst, and nothing, not even reason (especially NOT reason), can stop the flood.
Shafu states:

There will come a time when Mahdi and Jesus will rise. O we will eliminate this Jewish race.

Jesus (a Jew) will not eliminate the Jews. Wouldn’t that make him suicidal? Please. Your bigotry is charming and, all, really it is, but?
Ah, never mind.

Israel does not want the death of any non-combatant citizen of any nation. Israel respects the right for all other countries to exist, including the right for the Palestinians to have their own borders (which have constantly been under negotiation yet blockaded by Palestinian militants, and in one case by an Orthodox Jew). Yet, the nations that surround Israel do not agree with Israel’s placement in the world. Although the Jews have had a history in the region, the Arab and Muslim world (Iran is not Arab), says that the territory is fully Muslim, and cannot be controlled by Jews or any other people other than Muslims. (THIS RACISM IS KILLING ME!)
These Muslim nations are not ultimately concerned with the well being of their own citizens, let alone of a nation of people far removed from them. They are, and you can ask them and find quotes, interested in the final eradication of the state of Israel.
It is sad to think that these Israeli girls would write love letters to dying children, however, from the picture and a few other comments, I myself noticed a line in the 2nd and 3rd pictures that says: “…Nazrala with love.”
Nasrallah is the leader of the Hezbollah, which is recognized by the UN as a terrorist organization.

If we all pray for peace we can have peace. But if one half of the party crosses his fingers and is bent on the ultimate elimination of a non-Muslim from the Middle east, then we can have no peace.

The picture on the bottom is older than the ones above. You created great fiction. Plus, if you can read, the kids are writing good luck messages to the defesne forces.

My only prayer is that Iran and Syria will come to the Aid of Lebanon…..Carl

i dont beleive what im reading i dont beleive what i see they are just i kids??
and in my own word FUCK U isreal u are a shit and hezbolaah wsayed hassan is leader for all muslims??and i wish from GOD to take my from soul and my life and give to fight those isreal people.
DIE IN HILL ISREAL KIDS

im a muslim and im lebanese and i wish for every isreal man and women & kids to die in hill cz i see my country my family is dying infront of my eyes and i cant do any thing and im very happy to see thak isreal people is dying like arab people is dying?even if u see z history u ill see that there is no exict for isreal there is no country name isreal they kill our people and our contry to make there own countries.
and in z end they are a peace of shit they are nothing and trust me they will die in z end and we will win our life and our country cz we are strong and we beleive in GOD.
and my last word for them…………?
DIE IN HILL…………

????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??????? ?? ????? ????????? ???? ???????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ????????? ???? ????????? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ????? ?? ????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ????? ???? ???????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ????????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?? ?? ???? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????? ???? ……..

When will you learn? There is no reason to blow each other to pieces, its got the point of it being nobodies fault and both sides are in the wrong and are fighting on the grounds of religion. Wich is complete B/S christianity judasium and islam all worship the same god, just in a differnet way. None of you are right and none of you are wrong as the basis for your belifs are all based around the same mellenia+ old books that have no concrete fact.

Face it, you cannot prove if you are right or wrong and you will find out if you were right when you are dead. All that is happening is that you are getting there faster.

es ist h?te zeit, dass man den israelis ihren holocaust rabatt wegnimmt. die sind j?r geworden, mit noch gr?rer brutalit? als damals die deutschen.

So where are the pictures condemning the repetitive, intentional targeting of Israeli civilians by Hezbollah and Hamas and their supporters Syria and Iran? Where are the pictures of dead Israeli children and the destruction of suicide bombers? Do you also condemn the rocket and missile attacks on Israel that are intentionally launched from civilian areas in order to incur international condemnation on any Israeli response? The blame for these tragic Lebanese civilian deaths can easily be attributed to Hezbollah.

??????! ??? ?? ???? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ????? ??? ???????”Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians – Kids,Die with love.Yours,Israeli Kids” ??? ???????? ?????…? ??? ???????? ???. ????? ????? ??? ?????????; ???? ???, ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ??????? – ?????? ??? ????! ?????? ???????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????. ?????! ?? ???-? ??? ??????????? ???????? ?????????! ???????, ??????? ???????! =============================== ???? ?????? ???? ????????!!!

I’m not sure what to say – to either side – here. There are many in America – NOT ALL of us, not even most people – but still, a significant number of people who say, “The Jews and the Arabs are not wise enough, not intelligent enough, and are so selfish that both sides will NEVER agree to any kind of peace. Therefore, why don’t we simply nuke ALL of them, turn the desert into a giant sheet of glass, and be done with BOTH sides of idiots.” For those of you who insist YOUR side is ALWAYS right; that it was always “THEM” who started any conflict; that “WE” were always the ones who “owned” the land that makes up the Middle East… a few facts.
1) NEITHER the Jews OR the Arabs, Muslims OR Christians were the first dwellers of the area in which this conflict was going on. When looking at FACTUAL history, you CANNOT use religious texts to support your argument. And the facts, found in the archeology of the region, say that people whom Christians, Muslims, AND Jews might consider “heathens” were the first occupiers of those lands. Judaism came later, then Christianity, and then Islam. So, just as in America, when people say, “WE ought to make EVERYONE speak the original language of this country,” and I laugh – because the “original” language of America is any one of a number of aboriginal/native languages like Sioux, Cherokee, Lakota, etc. – so too is it the case when those who live in the Middle East say, “Everyone except the descendants of the ORIGINAL settlers on this land needs to leave.” OK. When shall we ship out ALL the Jews, Christians, and Muslims? The past is the past. Deal with it, let it go, apologize when you SHOULD, build for the future.
2) Children should NOT be taught to write messages of hate on bombs. It doesn’t matter WHOM you are writing the words to; CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT TO HATE. It is only a matter of “media control” – through word of mouth, pictures, television, movies, radio, and the Internet – to change the direction of someone’s hate. Goebels did it in Germany, before WWII, and Karl Rove has tried to do it in America recently. Unfortunately, MOST people – Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike – are sheep-like, and will go where they are pushed. Teaching them HATE when they are young only makes it easier for someone else to make your children do their dirty work later.
3) Finally, if you want to “win” – to be free – why continue to fight in such a way where NO ONE wins? Most terrorists are idiots! Why bomb a bus? Or a train? Why kill civilians, on either side? Their death WILL NOT get you what you want! You want results? Concentrate ALL your negative energy on the wealthy and the highest level political leaders, EXCLUSIVELY. Nothing else will get you the results you want. The poor have no control – so whether you are a militia, or a government, why go after the civilians?!! The rich and the super-powerful individuals are the ONLY people you should be influencing. One way to do that? Stop fighting, become rich yourself – and then buy out the people you hate. Make them your slaves, if you must. Only realize, if they are smart, they will try to do the same to you. It’s a kind of war, but one where you can survive to gloat over your opponents.
Please – all of you. Get smart. Or the idiots in America may end up following through on what SOME of them would like. And then ALL sides – Muslim, Jew, and Christian – all lose.
Figure…It…Out.

Never to believe that once will be a true peace with those people who were raised to hate other people, Never to believe that they are victim bec ppl with this kind of soul are always murderers ….with the the bottom of my heart iam with you lebanesse with the bottom of my heart i love you NASR-ALLAH….and may God will protect you and lead you to the victory that our souls have been eagering to, since decades

woooooow,damn n the world says we kill the israeli kids well i say the hell with them all…

check this site people
http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/

I am stunned. Only that parents would allow this not that little kids would think nothing of it. I have no problem with Israel’s actions as a nation. Lebanon lost control of their own country to Hezbolla, this is sad and traggic but, it is true. The Labenese Government could not disarm or control them and now Israel must. Anyone who pays any attention knows that people die when we make war upon one another. Explosives make human bodies very messy and nearly unrecognizable but, Kaytusha rockets would have the same end result. These pictures are for heart string, gut reactions (which is needed on one level) but, this violence has gone on for many, many years and someday it must end, if one horrific slaughter will stop it so be it. It won’t though, not enough will happen, the world will cry for a cease fire and as a result this will start again in a few years. Simply sad..

Just a comment on Philip’s post #245

” Jesus (a Jew) will not eliminate the Jews. Wouldn?t that make him suicidal? Please”
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Jesus as far as I can remember was not a Jew. It was the Jews who wanted to kill him just like they did with the prophets sent by Allah before him. The Jews were always the non-believers and indeed if you believe in your religion you know that Jesus will be resurrested once more on the day of judgemnet to be the witness of the demnation of the Jewish people.
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Jesus a Jew? and yet he spread the word of the Bible? The book of the Christian faith? I’m just a bit baffled by your comment there.
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Also, how are these photos a “set up”? By revealing the truth? or is it just hard to grasp in the reality that there are ‘terrorists’ other than Muslims? (As Mr. Bush kindly refered us to be, and know the whole west along with him…)

4 israeli:
1- israel still occupies Lebanese land, u know that , its called Shib3a farms.It also detains Lebanese individuals and everyday enters the Lebanese air space and waters. ( if the latter happens to any other counrty in the world it will declare war on the trespassing country.
2- If u can get Nasralla’s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war.
Even after killin a lot of civilians and destroyin everything in its way , and at that time Nasralla didnt attack the ppl of israel , he declared in his 2nd press conference that we dont wish to hurt any of ur civilians but ur massacres and continued aggression leaves us no choice but 2 fight back.
I am sure u didnt know all that , did U!

Sam, do you think if we send any of these picture to any of those news casts, they will ever show it? Believe me they won’t. They are all puppets. They show pictures of Palestinians or Lebenes being hurt in some extent but they won’t show the ones that will touch one’s soul that is only permited for Israelis. They don’t want you and me and the rest of the world to see the real truth. They give the news to people the way they want it. Do you think these are the first or only pictures like this? There are tons of pictures and even documentaries that even show how much torture has been put on the Palestinians. These pictures and documentaries are not only taken by Arabs but even Americans who have traveled to Middle East but, they have been denied the right to show them and express the truth. Why? We should know by now.

im sure the messages are for the isreali soldiers in the libanon they shoot that bombs, not for the arabiens !

think about that, this are kids !

Muslimah,
Jewish was a Jew. This is not an issue up for debate. It is historical fact. He was a direct descendant of King David. He took part in the Jewish feasts and festivals. He was referred to frequently as Rabbi. He did not spread the word of the Bible, nor Christianity. He was, by definition, the founder (for lack of a better word). Christianity was typically considered a Jewish sect before more and more non-Jews became involved, granting it cultural distinction from Judaism. The faith was spread by those known as the Apostles, some who knew Jesus firsthand, others (like Paul) who had other supernatural experiences with him.
The Jewish religious and political authorities sought his death, because they believed he was claiming to be the long-promised Messiah, yet they did not believe him to be. His claims of equality with God as the son of God (i.e. being God in the flesh) resulted in their final attempt to have him executed. Of course, they had no authority under Roman law, so they intimidated the Roman governor of the time, Pilate, to have him crucified. Despite his finding Jesus innocent of any breach of Roman law, he “washed his hands” of Jesus’ blood and had him executed. Of course, as a Christian, I believe that Jesus rose from the dead on the 3rd day from the Sabbath (Sunday).
The Christian texts end with the Book of Revelation, in which Jesus does return, but not to damn the Jews to hell. Rather, it is to throw Satan and his followers there. The Jews’ role in the Revelation is that of being renewed followers of God, leading the world against the embodiment of Satan on earth. Exactly how all this will come to pass is unknown. But keep in mind that Christians do not consider Jesus to be prophet; that is a huge difference. Our belief is that he is who he claimed to be, God’s son, the representation of God on earth.
But Jesus was a Jew, unquestionably. Otherwise he would have had no chance at all of having anyone believe he was the Messiah! This does not make Jews superior; it just clarifies that Jesus isn’t an anti-Semite! :-)
As for the set-up of the photos, “Lisa,” who Sandmonkey knows, spoke with some of the twelve photographers and other journalists who were there. They told her that the children were just out looking around and that the photographers coaxed them to do it, telling them that their friends/family in America will see them. They certainly should not have been writing on artillery (!), but the message neither stated nor implied a desire for death of Lebanese civilians, but specifically Nasrallah himself.

Oh, and one clarification:
It was not “the Jews” who wanted Jesus killed. It was certain religious authorities and a number of other individuals. Many jews followed him. Others, like a wise Pharisee, said to tolerate him, that if he is false, then he will fade away. If he is real and of God, then nothing can stop his message (!). Another member of the Sanhedrin (ruling body) was a Pharisee named Simon who actually offered his family tomb for Jesus, as well as another named Nicodemus who had secretly become a believer.
Sorry for the Sunday School lesson! ;-)

Ok Jesus was a jew!!! so what? does that justify their crimes? no no no!!! And by the way, Jesus probably saw lots of flaws in the jewish believes and faith; he probably saw that the Jews are chosing the wrong paths that guided them to a new path and that was what made him preach Christianity, right? right.

U see, they have given you the wrong image of martyrs and the hizbullah, No they are not what you think or what you media says. Martyrs are people who get sick of their family members being killed and tortured. Martyrs are people who don’t want to watch this big power to come and get all of their rights form them, some of these martyrs make the wrong choice and harm civilians and some of them harm the right people. And lets not forget Hezbollah is not what our media says. As AJ said “If u can get Nasralla?s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war.
Even after killin a lot of civilians and destroyin everything in its way , and at that time Nasralla didnt attack the ppl of israel , he declared in his 2nd press conference that we dont wish to hurt any of ur civilians but ur massacres and continued aggression leaves us no choice but 2 fight back.”

U see, they have given you the wrong image of martyrs and the hizbullah, No they are not what you think or what you media says. Martyrs are people who get sick of their family members being killed and tortured. Martyrs are people who don’t want to watch this big power to come and get all of their rights and land form them, some of these martyrs make the wrong choice and harm civilians and some of them harm the right people. And lets not forget Hezbollah is not what our media says. As AJ said “If u can get Nasralla?s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war.”

Sorry Philip, I didn’t mean to hijack, but rather to give a simple answer because I’m a Christian also and just wanted to put in my two cents worth and give a simple explanation as to Jesus being a Jew since it really isn’t the topic here. Also it was written, “Just a comment on 245″ When the differences get into details and arguing, rather than the fact that the three great religions are related and NEED to get along for the sake of humainity, I don’t like arguing the details which lead to the head-butting which just ends up in a tailspin usually. I am VERY uncomfortable with ANYONE of ANY of the three religions telling ANY of the others that they will be eliminated at ANY time. ANYONE killing in the name of God just somehow does not make sense to me. But then again, that is only my own personal opinion. Generally speaking, it does not sit well with me at all. On the note of the above pictures, the circumstances behind the pictures that you have given us from Lisa are even more disgusting. So now kids in Israel are coaxed by telling them their friends in America will see them signing bombs. THAT is REALLY SICK. What kind of monster kid would think this would be appreciated by their “friends in America”. Well, the ugly truth is that they would be appreciated by all the idiot Zionists here in the States who think it is just hunky-dorey to kill as many Arabs as possible and what lucky kids these are in the pictures, they actually get to SIGN the bombs, WOW!! How cool is that!! Maybe they could just make them into postcards and try selling them on the street corners. DISGUSTING no matter WHAT the circumstances behind them are.

1967 borders? Who defined the borders pre-1967? Was it Israel?…The United Nations?…The League of Nations? The British Mandate?

The fact of the matter is that Israel is the only country in the world who has no defined border, pre 1969 or otherwise! If you disagree with me, please prove me wrong.

Israel was as an illegal creation by the zionist terrorists who bombed the British out of the Palestinian territories and enforced their own flag upon the soil of the 3rd party – people who have been living in palestine for generations of more than a millenium. Most of these zionist terrorists were born in Europe (outside of Israel) and had no legal right to attain residency status in Palestine. No only did they want residncy, they wanted total control of the region. They achieved their goals through terrorising the Palestinian people with massacres like Dar Yasin and bombing the British out of Palestine like the King David hotel bombing. Even before the General Assembly of the United Nations could agree upon a solution to the palestinian problem and accepting Israel officially into the UN club, the terrorists went ahead and declared independance calling their land Israel and declaring it to be their holy land granted to them exclusively by God. Under the pressure from United States and also Britain, he UN reluctantly agreed to accept Israel on condition that displaced Palestinians will have the right to return to their land. However, almost 60 years later 5 million palestinians are still living as refugees and israel refuses to allow them to go back to their homes, their legal homes under international law and called upon by the UN. These palestinians have been undergoing unmentionable treatment by the racist state of Israel that discriminates them and does not respect their rights as human beings. It is the extreme oppression upon the palestinians that has created people who ar willing to do anything to defend palestinians, even if that means certainty of death. Afterall, what have they got to live for other than pure racist Israeli oppression? Better they die for a good cause, standing on their feet rather than on their knees, fighting for justice, defending their own from further aggression.

Israel is the only country in the middle east who has gone to war with all of it’s neighbours many times, occupied innocent people’s land for more than 60 years, occupied Gaza, ccupied the West Bank and occupied the Golan Heights.

It is the only country in the middle east that has nuclear weapons with certainty – more than 100 nuclear warheads. The only middle eastern country that refuses to sign the nuclear non prolefeation treaty. It is the only country in the world that has flouted more than 70 UN resolutions time and again till today. It would have triple the amount of resolutions and sanctions if it wasn’t for the United States vetoing many of the resolutions or Britain abstaining from it. Israel would be nothing without staunch support from Unites States. It is for this, and this only that people see United States and Britain as legitimate targets for aiding and abetting the oppressors (just like America claims that Syria and Iran are supporting Hizbollah and Hamas).

Israel is the most de-stabalising factor in the middle east – established by the European Comission when they did their survey!

As a nation of people, I have nothing against Jews just like I have nothing against Muslims, Catholics or Mormons. However I HATE people who kill and torture through the daily oppression whether they are Muslims, Jews or Christians.

Just as Hitler and the Nazi movement was hated by the moral people of the world, so too must the Zionist movement with their fascist and racist leaders be hated and despised. And just as force was required to remove the oppression of the Nazi regime, so too must force be used to remove the Zionist scums who occupy the land of a third party and oppress them.

This has nothing to do with religion – it’s about justice! 1967 borders are not the root cause of the problem, it’s the illegal invasion of foreign fighters who killed, displaced and occupied the palestine in 1948 that is the root cause of the problem.

Philip,
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Indeed, Jesus was a Jew, by birth.
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And ultimately, it was the jews who killed him – in their long tradition of killing prophets (you didn’t really thought they specialized in civilians and children did you?). Prophets were predominantely descendents of Isaac son of Ibraham, as they were indeed God’s chosen people
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Jews migrated to the Arabian Peninsula 1500 yrs ago because the old testement told them that the last prophet was going to appear there, and naturally – imagine their dismay when they found out that the last prophet is an arab, namely descending from Ismail son of Ibraham -peace be upon them all- (at which point the jews reaction went something along thec lines of “Bummer Dude…”)
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Previous century “versions” of the old testement or older include the name of that city “Yathrib”, later called AlMadina, and the name of that prophet: Recepient-of-Praise (or in Arabic: Muhammed). Naturally deleted in subsequent “releases”. I have verified these statement personally with a friend who was doing extensive research from old material he checked out from the university library.
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So naturally the hostilities began with that dissappointment (the Arab jews supported Muhammed’s enemies and tried to kill him for no other apparent reason)
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And where exactly in the Bible did Jesus -peace be upon him- say he was the son of God?
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I guess as Muslimah said, you have your belief, and we have ours. One thing’s for sure though, whoever turns out to be wrong, boy is he gonna be biting on his nails :)

Just teasing, Robin! :-D I just noticed that when my comment posted, yours must’ve gone through at the same time.
The thing is, I don’t think “Zionism” is involved here at all. They were writing a message to a despised terrorist, much in the way and American bomb aimed at Bin Laden might be signed. Again, I don’t think kids should be doing it. But it appears to me, and based on the words transcribed, it is abundantly clear that there is no hatred of Arabs presented at all. I know it is implied by the main post that there is some sinister deeper meaning, but realistically, that is trying just a little too hard to find the devil under a rock.
In fact, I dare say their message is less vitriolic than the comments I’ve seen here, not just against Zionists (I am not including you, as you have made the distinction, and I know you are not an anti-semite), but against all Jews.
Perhaps it is just a reaction to the photo? That would not make much sense to me. It’s like a white man who “suddenly” becomes racist when a black man mugs him on a darkened street. Bigotry is bigotry.

Muslimah,
Works for me! :-)

I dont know whats going on in the word…but its disturbing.No one is saying anything to stop teh violence against the innocent lives lost.How many times in the history has teh means been gained by killing innocent people or by waging wars??But we commemorate those days where horrible acts were commited and lives were lost.Why cant our leaders think like humans, instead of as warships?Whats the point of choosing a leader for every country if all they do is wage wars or just plan for a fight?I dont care who is a muslim, jew, christian, or whatsoever.But the deads are sons, daughters, mothers, fathers,husbands!i feel helpless at not being able to do anything for the Palestenians,lebanese,israelis,iraqis,afghanis.Why cant this world be a peaceful place?WHy do i havethis loooming fear that all this upheavel is calling for a WWIII in 2-3 yrs time???
No religion teaches violence.Not even islam.Jihad is only self-defence.if you are attacked, only then you have the right to lash back.Islam prohibits killing of children and women or any innocent.And I’m sure even other religions basic foundation is PEACE. Today we are all fighting because somewhere or teh other its teh religion which is creating the rift?Which religion are we following??????? Just think about it.

As much as we’d like to think that Arabs have an instilled hatred for jews, it is evident that the school curriculum in Israel blatantly teaches racism and brainwashes young children into thinking that Arabs are evil or at the very least ANY Arab who has grieviences with the Israeli state is an enemy of the Jewish race and therefore must be hated.

To the palestinians/Lebanese, Nasrullah is seen as a hero who dares to stand up to defend the right’s and sovereignty of his country, to the Israeli’s he is a terrorist who keeps interfering with Israeli foreign policy and therefore must be branded the Bin Laden of Lebanon!…Therefore Hizbollah must die, together with the rest of the innocent civilians of the country who have no association with Hizbollah…and in fact have political differences with Nasrallah!???? More than 300 innocent people have died with the country being sent back 30 years in development – this is purely evil and the so too are evil those nations who gave the racist state the green light to continue it’s carnage and murder.

Israeli’s have had 30 people killed and still they are bombing the country into smitherines! Is the life of a jew more valuable than the life of an Arab or Muslim? If you agree yes, then you are a war mongere who who does not believe in justice, therefore nothing can make you realise what being impartial is especially when you are a racist. Little wonder why we here in the west have become targets of those grieving palestinians who have been psychologically raped of any decency. It is these very same double standards and hypocricy that will come back to the west and huant us in the guise of suicide bombers or martyredom operations!

Collective punishment to an entire community is tyranny and oppression to the civilised world. Another name for collective punishmet to a specified community is ‘progrom’. I find it amazing that the very same people who fled from the persecution of the y same Nazis are the very same people carrying out similar attrocities agaianst another helpless community. But as they say, what goes around comes around.

The State of Israel is and has always been a military occupation of Palestine since the early 1940s. The civilians who live there are a reinforcment of the military occupation who intend to reside in the occupied land till their death. This makes Hizbollah’s and Hamas’ argument legitimate in repulsing the enemy from their sovereign homeland!

For the purposes of this subject, I want you guys to know that I do not believe in any religion but I do believe in a creator of our Universe.

I think the fighting has to stop, on both sides. The Palestinians and most of the Arabs in the Middle East need to be given a reason to live. The oil rich governments need to build them an infrastructure so that they can have the opportunities the rest of the world have. The Arab people must be given a chance for an education in proper schools and colleges. The Middle East needs to form an economy besides just Oil and tourism. If most of the Arab population was kept busy with their own houses and gardens, careers, big screen TVs, and cars,then maybe the fighting would not be worth their time. AGAIN, THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN A REASON TO LIVE AND TO SUCCEED!!!

I agree that whatever these Israeli kids are writing on the missiles doesn’t look good to the rest of the world.
But, I would like to make a few points:

1). This is the only picture that I’ve seen in which Israeli children were writing messages on missiles and I think that IT LOOKS BAD AND IS TERRIBLE!! However, I have seen MANY pictures of young Palestinian children wearing fake suicide vests to show their support of the killings of Israeli civilians. It is a FACT that these pictures don’t clearly show all the writing on the missiles except for a few words such as “Nazrala with love” “From Israel and Danielle” and that the “Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians – Kids, Die with love.? is invented to try to make this picture look as bad the “suicide baby” pictures.
If you can find, please post more pictures of Israeli children that show public support for the deaths of innocent Arabs.

2) There are two big differences between the people in this conflict. Muslims have been for centuries killing one another in the name of their religion. (Just one example: Shia vs. Sunni). However, Jews have never and will never kill one another. This fact cannot be denied. I am not claiming that all Muslims are killers but that there is a lot of violence within their own people. I find that to be very alarming. I hope that I did not offend anyone but this is how I feel.

I also think if nobody bombed Israel, Israel wouldn’t bomb them. Israel just wants its own little country.

Who knows what these kids think..? It’s no different from any parents of any country following that old line of “SUPPORT OUR MILITARY, NO MATTER WHAT”, since they are defending you from horrible people who are not like you.
The creation of Israel began in the 1700′s, or earlier, by powers of Europe who were either anti-semitic, or who felt that the Jews could not assimilate with the catholics, or other christian powers. This included some rich Jews. And that’s only a small part of the picture. With the usage of oil gaining great popularity, the middle east became prime land to seize, “by whatever means necessary”, to quote our current president GWB.
I’m not saying that Israel should be dissolved. It’s there and generations have been born & raised there. But, the atrocities of it’s leadership (& any other leaders in the world who are guilty of crimes against humanity) should be addressed & appropriate measures of justice should be sought.
The land was STOLEN by the powers of Europe, & then America, & no solution will be easy. The most disgusting ‘dirt under the nails’ belongs to the militant, heartless, greedy corporate leaders whose main goal was to steal and profit from the resourses of the area.
Leaders from all sides of this HELL ON EARTH region of the world are guilty of major crimes and Karma has her work ahead of her.
And I should also say, MY GOD SAYS EVERYBODY IS MY FAMILY!!! So I guess that means that I’ve got to forgive those in power. It’s not easy to do that, but ‘only by the grace of GOD goes I’.

RE: Israeli children writing messages…..

First of all, If they were Israeli Children, they would have written their message in Hebrew. Living in Israel, and having raised three children of my own, for a short time there, I tell you that Children of this age, that are Israeli do not write their messages in English, they would have written them in Hebrew!

Dear human beings,

Of course this is horrible what these children are taught by the Talmudists, (ever read the Talmud?) But you know what is worse? Infant and children Circumcision, or Male Genital Mutilation as its called nowadays…

This little absolutely helpless infant is velcroed to a plastic board called a circumstraint and the most erogenous, exquisitely erotic part of his body is cruelly cut off, the Jews do it religiously on the 8th Day, called Brith Milah, the Muslims from birth to age 14! and the Americans. And duh, guess who’s fighting the most in the middle east?!
Listen to John Lennon?s song IMAGINE, ?and no religion too?

Gandhi said, If we want to have real peace we have to start with the children, Karl Menninger said “What we do to children, they will do to society”
http://www.SexAsNatureIntendedIt.com is the most honest site, and it is not controlled by Zionists. The Jews perpetuated the myth that Circumcision started in Egypt, BS, it was started by these control freak AshkeNAZI Khazars, now eastern European fake Jews, so when we speak out against Jews, we are not being “Anti-Semitic” because they are not even Semites, they are the children of Jhapeth, and NOT Shem, and their native land is 800 miles away from Palestine Source http://www.IamtheWitness.com in a long speech by a Jew, Benjamin Freedman, who converted to Catholic Christian, and knew personally 7 American Presidents! and the big trouble they caused under the noses of the Rothschild?s (real name Meyer Amshell Bauer) They are descendents of the money lenders, its called FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING, and pure USARY! (Charging excessive interest fraudulently!) Check this site out, it?s honest

This is unfair!!! just look at these pictures and u will feel nothing but hate, disscusting and a desire to go out there and fight with lebanese and palestinians…
Please God save our children and our country,, Ameen!!!

E’ terrificante…mi chiedo quanto la ricerca di una visibile identit?ossa essere ancora foriera di morte.

This is the state of muslims when they have no Khilafa. the rigid solution is when they establish it. so be the engineers.

regards

to AJ

I am proud to be a lebanese AJ, and of course Israel and Hiszbolla are in the same category. Both are destroying my beautiful country, they’re bringing us back 50 years. Lebanon has become the best tourist attraction in the middle east (at least for the arabs), and what have ISRAEL done, it has destroyed it, what has HIZBOLLA done, it has destroyed it too. so dont tell me i can put both of them in the same category. I am not talking religion here, i am talking humanity wise, both have no sense of life, both do not appreciate life. I am sorry for all those who support hizbolla, but i dont think GOD would want his children to kill each other, and dont get me started on jihad.

so AJ, please feel free to out yourself in our shoes, you have 1 building destroyed, we have 30 in return, i say GOOD JOB. im not happy at all that people are also dying in ISRAEL, but by god, no one deserves to die. so again, when i say Israel and hizbolla are in the same category, i have my very obvious reasons, and so do most lebanese.

to john

the propaganda machine is CNN, and it’s only one sided, one sided to the favor of Israel. and as the toll of death in palestine or in Lebanon, they are faaaaaaaaaar more than the toll in Israel. and you should be ashamed of yourself, wishing for more deaths whether in lebanon or palestine. you are not worthy of being called a human being. i suggest you take a dime, buy yourself a brain that could fit your microscopic head.

Tariq Ali
Thursday July 20, 2006
The Guardian

In his last interview – after the 1967 six-day war – the historian Isaac
Deutscher, whose next-of-kin had died in the Nazi camps and whose surviving
relations lived in Israel, said: “To justify or condone Israel’s wars
against the Arabs is to render Israel a very bad service indeed and harm its
own long-term interest.” Comparing Israel to Prussia, he issued a sombre
warning: “The Germans have summed up their own experience in the bitter
phrase ‘Man kann sich totseigen!’ ‘You can triumph yourself to death’.”
In Israel’s actions today we can detect many of the elements of hubris: an
imperial arrogance, a distortion of reality, an awareness of its military
superiority, the self-righteousness with which it wrecks the social
infrastructure of weaker states, and a belief in its racial superiority. The
loss of many civilian lives in Gaza and Lebanon matters less than the
capture or death of a single Israeli soldier. In this, Israeli actions are
validated by the US.
The offensive against Gaza is designed to destroy Hamas for daring to win an
election. The “international community” stood by as Gaza suffered collective
punishment. Dozens of innocents continue to die. This meant nothing to the
G8 leaders. Nothing was done.
Israeli recklessness is always green-lighted by Washington. In this case,
their interests coincide. They want to isolate and topple the Syrian regime
by securing Lebanon as an Israeli-American protectorate on the Jordanian
model. They argue this was the original design of the country. Contemporary
Lebanon, it is true, still remains in large measure the artificial creation
of French colonialism it was at the outset – a coastal band of Greater Syria
sliced off from its hinterland by Paris to form a regional client dominated
by a Maronite minority.
The country’s confessional chequerboard has never allowed an accurate
census, for fear of revealing that a substantial Muslim – today perhaps even
a Shia – majority is denied due representation in the political system.
Sectarian tensions, over-determined by the plight of refugees from
Palestine, exploded into civil war in the 1970s, providing for the entry of
Syrian troops, with tacit US approval, and their establishment there -
ostensibly as a buffer between the warring factions, and deterrent to an
Israeli takeover, on the cards with the invasions of 1978 and 1982 (when
Hizbullah did not exist).
The killing of Rafik Hariri provoked vast demonstrations by the middle
class, demanding the expulsion of the Syrians, while western organisations
arrived to assist the progress of a Cedar Revolution. Backed by threats from
Washington and Paris, the momentum was sufficient to force a Syrian
withdrawal and produce a weak government in Beirut.
But Lebanon’s factions remained spread-eagled. Hizbullah had not disarmed,
and Syria has not fallen. Washington had taken a pawn, but the castle had
still to be captured. I was in Beirut in May, when the Israeli army entered
and killed two “terrorists” from a Palestinian splinter group. The latter
responded with rockets. Israeli warplanes punished Hizbullah by dropping
over 50 bombs on its villages and headquarters near the border. The latest
Israeli offensive is designed to take the castle. Will it succeed? A
protracted colonial war lies ahead, since Hizbullah, like Hamas, has mass
support. It cannot be written off as a “terrorist” organisation. The Arab
world sees its forces as freedom fighters resisting colonial occupation.
There are 9,000 Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli gulags. That is
why Israeli soldiers are captured. Prisoner exchanges have occurred as a
result. To blame Syria and Iran for Israel’s latest offensive is frivolous.
Until the question of Palestine is resolved and Iraq’s occupation ended,
there will be no peace in the region. A “UN” force to deter Hizbullah, but
not Israel, is a nonsensical notion.

Look at the center photo. On the shell on the left you can read “Nasrallah” yourself. On the shell in the middle I can tell you it says Nasrallah in Hebrew, ask any Hebrew reader. This is the recipient this girl hopes for.

But don’t let me ruin your wonderful and humane theory.

BTW – if these children are near the cannons, that means they are in the north of Israel, being shelled and killed by Hizballah just the same (only Israelis are equipped with better bomb shelters).

by God.

what God is this? asking people to fight each other in his name?
Chosen People? don’t make me laugh… do you really believe that when you say it? does it not remind of a guy named Hitler saying “we are the best race”??
jihad? HAH!! ISLAM is a religion of PEACE. the word islam is derived from SALAM = PEACE. please correct me if i’m wrong.

how is this possible? how can the truth be twisted so much on both sides of the equation that people actually BELIEVE that they must fight this mad war?

my question is: how can anyone who has killed another person (or supported the killing of another person) in the name of “God” live with himslelf? honestly.

how can some people be so closed minded and brainwashed that they can’t take a step back and realize where there blind hatred has gotten them?

i’m sick and tired of people wanting to fight for GOD. i’m sick and tired of people who are arrogant enough to think they are better than others just because they were born white, or jew, or moslem, or christian, or any other thing that they had absolutely no hand in deciding for themselves.

wake up. think for yourself – take a step back and see the bigger picture, and try to see who you would have been if you had had the choice.

most importantly, leave my beirut alone. i want to go back to my country. i want my house. i want to see my friends again. i want to dance until dawn at my best friend’s wedding as i had planned. PEACE – FOR GOD’S SAKE. PEACE.

i am a catholic soul who strongly believes in jesus christ and god…in some respects the catholic and the muslim faith tend to clash at some point, but this..nothing has ever prepared both faiths for this..this is appauling and as a christian my heart pours for the lebanese community and also for the naive young israeli girls writing msgs to the lebanese ..i am purely in sorrow and disgust upon the israeli community to allow this behaviour to occur amongst the younger generation…GOD(Allah) does not want this!!! there should be peace and prosperity in the world!! god shall see everything and shall punnish those who go against his divinity……

….Nel 1942 i nazisti massacravano civili inermi come vendetta per i loro ufficiali morti…

….Gli insegnamenti migliori non si scordano…….

your rage i my rage,
my rage is your rage,

my mome,
is yours.

Victor italian blogger from Milan.
http://guerrillaradio.iobloggo.com/

stay humans…

i am sickened from these pics but i dont put it past the hatred of arabs that jews teach their children at birth and they say we the muslims teach our children about hatred and death. i congratulate you for in this day of anybody to fight against what isreal and america says would be either put in isrealis jails and americas gitmo i stand with you to show what the brutal assult on lebanons civilans by the jewish zionist regime. may god insallah carry hezbollah to victory because they seem to be the only people with the fight and strength to help the lebanese people live with dignity and freedom from the zionist land stealing and power hungry isreallis. may god bless the souls of the lebanese martyrs of this war and may in gods strength the hezbollah soldiers and the lebanese people overcome the jewish invasion of lebanon for yet another time in history. insallah this will be the last time isreal will be on the lebanese soil that doesnt belong to them. viva lebanon hezbollah and the palestinian resistance movement

We need another Hitler indeed. Only he knows how the stop these jew’s action!! not un or f***ing usa or another!!!

I dont know who you are

I dont know why you make these sickening sites

I dont know (doubt) that you will ever read my email.

Not getting too personal here are 5 reasons WHY USA must continue its aid to Israel and 5 reasons for ISRAEL to continue its actions in (YES) Occupied Palestinian territories.

1 – Israel is the only (more or less) westernised, civilized, progressive, modern, sovereign state in the middle east. Moreover many of its supporters and admirers are amongst the US senate and if other religions can make it to the US senate – please support other religions… however if a muslim comes to US senate… which of the 24 Arab countries will he support? hmmm.. difficult. there is only ONE JEWISH state in the world and 24 Muslim/Arab states.

2 – Israel pays back with HR, Tourism, Hospitality etc… The economic factor. Israel LOVES Americans!

3 – R&D Factor. Many researches and creative things happen in Israel. Mobile phone, billing, credit cards etc… were all discovered in Israel.

4 – Israel after many many years is still fighting for its existence (see Hizbollah attack). Why not to help them?

5 – Anyone in the Arab world is more then welcome to support Palestinians as against US help to Israel (which is done from Iran, Saudi, Syria etc… – even though it is mostly attacking techniques)…

Enough or you want more?

Remember – there is a word against yours ALWAYS!

5 Reasons for Israel to FIGHT PALESTINIANS:

1 – No peace plans, no initiateves were accepted. For Palestinians every step forward by Israel is a WIN and a reason to keep KILLING as they interpet it as “we killed – that is why they gave” (see Gaza, South Lebanon 2000).

2 – Palestinian people chose Hammas who does not recognize israel and FIGHTS for its full extermination (please see their website). Why would Israel care about people who want to kill every single Israeli??????

3 – Every BAD things that Israelis do to Palestinians is a direct result of the abuse of any common, acceptable, logic steps towards peace by Palestinians. See Ambulance shooting as a result of NUMEROUS attempts (some went well) to get weapon in the ambulance. See house destroying – result of using the house as an entrance to the cage where weapon is smuggled from Egypt. See killing 15 years old boy INNOCENTLY throwing stones at Israeli tank… well.. i think (hope) you got it yourself.

4 – Palestinians are not scared to die, they are prepared to be SHAHEEDS so… why bother? Why bother about their own life if they CAN NOT CHERISH IT themselves?

5 – Who are Palestinians? (Palestine is the name given by romans to the people who lived there… same people who lived in Todays Jordan and Lebanon)… so who are Palestinians? Where is Palestine and who set their national boarders and when? Does the govt. of Palestine knows what are they fighting for at all? Is it puting a state between lebanon and red sea, mid. sea and jordan and to call is Palestine?? Why? Why does the Palestinian govt. fighting for it? Why JEWS can not have a country while arabs have over 20!?! Why Jews have to fight EVERY DAY and the whole world will tend to belive that they are fighting wrongly!?

Anarchy, lack of freedom, no culture, no progess – that is what palestine is all about.

in schools they teach how to HATE JEWS in unis they learn to make explosives! they are happy to die and kill.. .that is what palestine is all about…

P.S. little girls on your site were writing to NAsralla saying that they hope he dies… saying that they hope that these bombs will teach him something… obviously you interpreted it in YOUR OWN WAY to project the BAD LITTLE JEWS…

I really really hate people like you. no knowledge, no evidence… just photos with your own agenda… simply because you are muslim or somehow related to them….

there is no MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!!!! Otherwise syria and iran would have taken hizbollah to their states but they chose to kill lebanese people instead… nice brotherhood isnt it!?

BEST OF LUCK!

Keep the good work. God bless you.

Israeli rabbis: Don’t spare civilians

By Khalid Amayreh in Hebron
Tuesday 07 September 2004, 19:47 Makka Time, 16:47 GMT

A group of prominent Jewish rabbis have asked the Israeli army not to flinch from killing Palestinian civilians in the context of the ongoing military campaign against armed groups resisting the occupation.

In a letter to the Israeli defence minister, Shaul Mofaz, published on Tuesday, the rabbis said killing enemy civilians is “normal” during the time of war and that the Israeli occupation army should never hesitate to kill non-Jewish civilians in order to save Jewish lives.

“There is no war in the world in which it is possible to delineate entirely between the population and the enemy army, neither in the US war in Iraq, the Russian war in Chechnya, nor in Israel’s war with its enemies,” the rabbis said.

The rabbis quoted a Talmudic edict, or religious ruling, stating that “our lives come first”.

“The Christian preaching of ‘turning the other cheek’ doesn’t concern us, and we will not be impressed by those who prefer the lives of our enemies to our lives,” they said.

Opposing branches

The letter was signed by a number of Israeli rabbis including Haim Druckman, a former Knesset member who heads a large religious youth movement known as the Bnei Akiva Society; Eliezer Melamed, head of a West Bank religious college; and Youval Sharlo, the head of another Talmudic college in Petah Tikva which combines Talmudic studies with active military service.

It is worth noting that many rabbis, especially within Conservative and Reform Judaism, don’t share the Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox view of non-Jews.

But the Conservative and Reform branches of Judaism, despite their numerical superiority, have very little influence in Israel and are generally mistreated by the powerful Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox branches, who view secular Jews as somehow less than real Jews.

Incidentally, a few months ago a prominent rabbi in the Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arbaa near Hebron issued an edict stating that non-Jewish civilians may be killed to save Jewish lives, soldiers and civilians alike.

The rabbi, Dov Lior, argued that non-Jewish lives had no sanctity, especially during the time of war.

Lior has publicly praised and eulogised Baruch Goldstein, an American Jewish settler who in 1994 mowed down 29 Arab worshippers who were praying at Hebron’s Ibrahimi Mosque.

Calling Goldstein a “great saint”, he said a “thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew’s fingernail”.

Talmudic maxim

Earlier this year, Lior enthusiastically supported the killing of Palestinian civilians in Rafah in southern Gaza, saying that “it is very clear in light of the Torah that Jewish lives are more important than non-Jewish lives”.

“The Christian preaching of ‘turning the other cheek’ doesn’t concern us, and we will not be impressed by those who prefer the lives of our enemies to our lives”

Prominent Israeli rabbis in letter to Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz

In formulating their theological positions, Lior and other like-minded rabbis rely on an old Talmudic maxim which states that it is a mitzvah (imperative religious duty) to kill enemy civilians in war time.

The same rabbis also often quote Torah verses in which God is shown instructing the ancient Israelites to annihilate the Canaanites in ancient Palestine.

Since the outbreak of al-Aqsa Intifada in September 2000, the Israeli army and paramilitary Jewish groups have killed as many as 3500 Palestinians, the bulk of them civilians, including more than 600 children and minors.

During the same period, Palestinian fighters have killed nearly a thousand Israeli soldiers, settlers and civilians.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BB82FCC4-F4D4-495F-8637-C3008159E1C8.htm

Well, last time I checked news, Nazrala was not only NOT a kid, but an adult, and he was the chief terrorist threatening Israel and being in charge for the coward kidnapping of soldiers.
It’s ok if you cannot read Hebrew, but it’s not ok if you make up headlines and jump to conclusions, when at least parts of these rockets say something different in English.
In case you can’t read it: “To Nazrala with Love from Israel and Daniele”.
Sounds much different than your fantasy. Sound much, much different than some children chanting “Death to all Jews”.

Stop making an ass of yourself and do your homework (“Philip” has shown you how to do it) before you spread these things. The crisis is bad enough already.

All it says is ” To Nasralah with love from Israel”and elsewhere ” Waiting for Nasrallah from Israel”
and you make out in your headline that it is addressed to arab kids wishing them death.
You demean your own blog and you think a simple PS below the pictures solves all.
A childs reaction to the news.
Pure incitement !

What say you to Pally summer camps where they teach kids to be body bombers ?

Sabbah,

It does not say anywhere on the rockets that these children are wishing Lebanese children to die. They are wishing death to Nasrallah, a terrorist who is terrorising their home towns. Of course it is terrible that they are writing on rockets (!!) and that they are being militarised at all. But if you really care about this conflict, as I do, you must not take the liberty to demonize any side for your own demagogical uses. You must differentiate between radical terrorism on each side (and Israel is committing state terrorism undoubtedly) and the majority of the population that is more sane. Your invented caption (especially for people who do not read hebrew) creates an image of bloodthirsty children who are wishing death to innocent children, rather than an image of kids who are venting childish frustration and fear against a terrifying enemy for them. Israeli kids and Palestinian kids are just innocent pawns in this game and not little devils. Your manipulation, which demonizes these Israeli girls, just spreads more hate! Isn’t that the opposite of what you want to achieve?

So sad…

I’ve read quite a bit of the responses here and I’m amazed at how effective the propoganda of the elite really is. These girls are doing what any kid would do if their older brothers, cousins, etc., were off to war somewhere, supposedly fighting for their people. This one Stas, is spouting out all of the pro-Israel bullcrap that’s created the present day problems in Palestine. “We’ve been suffering for over 2000 years and our God says we are the chosen people. Therefore, we deserve our own country.” Why doesn’t every religion have their own country and we’ll stop all international travel so that people won’t have to face those GODLESS heathens who are in those countries. Israel is a COLONY of the white elite in America & Europe! It is an IMPERIALIST STATE! It’s arrogant, tyrannical, iron-handed, pillaging of the middle east is a clear fact. Then, the pro-Israel white elite in America and Europe, who own the mainstream media, deceive the working class people of the world into believing that it’s an US AGAINST THEM issue.
I may have been born a catholic in the USA, but I told the hypocritical ‘evil-doers’ to go shove it years ago. I have friends who are decendants of all the main christian religions; also jewish, moslem, hindu, buddhist, and I’m sure the list goes on. When I was in 2nd grade, almost 40 years ago, we had a book in class that showed different countries in the world and the people in those countries. I remember a picture of a little boy in Lebanon. I wanted to be friends with that boy. And, I know we could have been friends. It’s those damn adults that screw everything up. People of any race, from any country will usually be good to people who come from other places, or who look a bit different. But, we still live in this primitive tribal mentality of the dark ages.
Those who are in power, anywhere in this world, are mostly insane. The ones who aren’t are like tightrope walkers. They have to be damn careful with what they say. Most of them are ridiculously materialistic and suffer from all those main sinful shortcomings that the religions preach against; greed, lust, envy, etc. Also, “vengeance is mine!”, says the elite power holding psycho. The financial power holding elite, are the ones who create our enemies. Then, for their own personal gains, in material profit, and power over the working peoples lives, they sign papers and orchestrate a media blitz of propaganda to sell a war. The most war filled book on this planet is the Bible, and the beginning of the Bible, the Torah. The Koran’s a man made book also. All of those OLD religious books are written by men and women are treated like property, and sadistically at that. Man made religions are NOT OF GOD!!!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE! Your worst enemies are the elite power holding nutcases who push for war. LOVE YOUR BROTHERS AND YOUR SISTERS. We are all related. Peace!

i recieved this web site froma one of my close friends… it was a fwd. i thought it was something stupit. Then when i opened it,… my jaw dropped and i couldnt stop the tears…. all i thought of was pay back or a way to stop this mess. but now that i have seen this site and read everything…well i have nothing to say… accept how and why do we sit here and let this happen… watch all this… is this what where supposed to do?…. just sit here and close are eyes and hope that this will all end?…….

For over 700 years we in Ireland fought against British Imperialism and British Terrorism in order to gain our freedom. We support the Armed struggle of the Palestinian people in their attempt to regain their land and establish their Palestinian State. Be warned Israel, the world is watching your slaughter of the innocence of Lebanon and Palestine and it will not be forgotton, our thoughts are with all the people’s of these lands who are suffering at the hands of Zionist aggression. We will continue to support you struggle in any way we can.

Salaam.

I wish I were not married, and I could help with my …..

Very very sad and depressing to see Israeli children involved in this !! I always ask myself; Why are the Jews living among millions of Arabs when they know they hate them anyway !? What kind of life Israelis they live daily !?..Constantly under war, fighting, killing, bombing.. and no moment of peace and love !!..I always ask myself What kind of support Israelis are getting from USA and Europe !?..They wish Israel to keep on fighting Arabs among them forever to keep exsisting !?..Is this support !?..If they really love Jews and wish them peace, then they can move the state of Israel to one of the USA states !!..Or maybe they prefer to KEEP THEM AWAY !!??

http://www.waronlebanon.net/
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

Jose Saramago, a portugese novelist once said: What kind of world is this that can send machines to Mars and does nothing to stop the killing of a human being?

Einstein also said: To my mind, to kill in war is not a whit better than to commit ordinary murder.

TO ISRAELIS,

stop kidding yourselves, stop defending your country, stop defending the massacre your government is doing. you should be ashamed of ourselves trying to give arguments that israel should kill people.

to those who said that israel is the most modern civilized bla bla bla country in the middle east, tell me, why isnt your so called civilized country able to have peace with the rest of the arab countries, since your so civilized that is. YOU MAKE ME SICK

now the rest of the world will know how CIVILIZED you are by killing hundreds of people, by destroying villages.

to Bob,

do you really think that the americans would want to have a state of israel anywhere near them, are you crazy. just as you said, they want them as far away as possible. when they GAVE them the country, they thought it would be better to have them in the middle east, little they knew that they were not welcome there.

hey i feel really terrible for this, such a trajic thing, really it is. Am i allowed to take these pictures and use them in a forward email? or is that copyright infringement.. you know, thanks

hey, everyone, please express yourselves in english, even it it’s not the best grammar… or else we can’t understand what you’re saying!!

yes joe, you can use the pics. try the pics on this website too

http://www.waronlebanon.net/

to all those who are afraid to use the english language to post their comments, just a reminder, we can write in arabic too.

Hi Everyone,

the site below has some disturbing images about what’s happening in my beautiful beirut.

we’ve reached the point where almost OVER 500,000 people (civilians, from all faiths) are displaced, and have NO FOOD or supplies what so ever. the only shipment that was sent from france is now in danger – they’re not sure if it will arrive.

prices of basic needs are rising quickly… we are reaching a serious humanitarian disaster.

whether you are Lebanese, an ex-patriot, a European, an american, a jew, a christinan, a moslem – a compassionate human being…. help us by signing this petition, and by forwarding it to as many people as you can.

look at this from a humanitarian eye, and sign the petition…

there are peace rallies happening all over the world. if you believe that what is happening is not right, join them please.

lebanon is burning, WE HAVE TO STOP THIS WAR NOW.

http://www.abouyounes.com/savelebanon.htm

peace rallies: http://www.tayyar.org/tayyar/articles.php?article_id=15603&type=news

LET POLITICIANS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS BY NEGOTIATIONS – NOT WAR. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT, THIS IS A HUMANITARIAN PLEA FOR PEACE AND LIFE.

we will erase israel inshallah

Well, Israeli soliders\army woudln’t even have to bombard any thing if it weren’t for you muslims suiciding (Jihad) and killing children and people who are not able to protect them selves.
I’m quite tired of all this B.S, the olny thing Israel is realy bombing is Hizballah\other terrorist targets, unfotunatly for the other mulsims who are not taking an “active” part in the terrorisem the terrorists usualy sround them selves with children.. so the only one to blame here
are the TERRORISTS them selves and in this case as in many, the Muslims, ask your self if what i have wrriten is true and you will find there is not even one lie in it.
i will be happy to recive emails from you, and explain to you the truth, because the muslim media is a bunch of liers.
tamir.ordeman@gmail.com

Hey noa, if u please dont say Israel but say PALASTAIN because its name is PALASTAIN ok and I Advice u to go from where u came and ur family original country because PALASTAIN land it is for the PALASTINIAN. Then after u leave PALASTAIN talk about the peace.

I think that u didn’t saw The Massacres of Nablus and Jenin in PALASTAIN. Hope I can put this photos here to make every body not only u to see h much the Terrorism of the Jewish that they called them selfes (israel).

And this pic’s is the truth of all the jewish.

If the children of Israel have so much hatred and meanness in their heart, that explains why this people have been hated throughout history until to day.

To Noa..You are a human right activist ok..But who started the fire !?..Israel did first in 1948, then in 1967, then in 1973, then 1982, and now 2006. Israel provocate Arabs all the time, because they have a green light from the USA, they have more powrfull weapon, and they like to show their muscles constantly !!..Maybe it´s becuase they love blood !?

These photos are sad and regrettable but Israelis as a society do not foster hatred for Arabs and Palestinians. Israelis have made sacrifices that no other nation in history has made in an attempt to make peace with a sworn enemy. In response, Israel has been plagued by suicide bombings, shootings, kidnappings, and now constant rocket attacks. The name “Nasrallah” is clear on the artillery shell. If a child, who has been forced into a bomb shelter for four days because of the actions and fanatical hatred of a man named Nasrallah, sends him wishes on an artillery shell, it is not indicitive of broad hatred for an entire nation of people. These kids would like to see Nasrallah, not the poor people of Lebanon, dead. That’s not such a crazy thing.

hey this is metomizer and just fuck israeli kidz and adults and i hope that hizbolah wipes them all to hell _|_ to ever one that loves israeli and works for it like sa3ed al harireh and the arabic leaderz

To this low class Russian jew; Your message in Russian shows what kind of a human being you are !!..What in the hell are you doing in Israel anyway. This is not your country, you came to Israel to live a better life than you had in Russia, but you´ll not get it.
The pictures are NOT propaganda..Are you blind !?..Go back home to Russia and shut up, you don´t belong there !!..If you love Israel go to the borders of Lebanon and fight, so I can pray you´ll get a racket on your head together with the others from Hizballah !!

Arithmetic of Pain
| July 20, 2006 | Alan M. Dershowitz

There is no democracy in the world that should tolerate missiles being fired at its cities without taking every reasonable step to stop the attacks. The big question raised by Israel’s military actions in Lebanon is what is “reasonable.” The answer, according to the laws of war, is that it is reasonable to attack military targets, so long as every effort is made to reduce civilian casualties. If the objectives cannot be achieved without some civilian casualties, these must be “proportional” to the civilian casualties that would be prevented by the military action.

This is all well and good for democratic nations that deliberately locate their military bases away from civilian population centers. Israel has its air force, nuclear facilities and large army bases in locations as remote as anything can be in that country. It is possible for an enemy to attack Israeli military targets without inflicting “collateral damage” on its civilian population. Hezbollah and Hamas, by contrast, deliberately operate military wings out of densely populated areas. They launch antipersonnel missiles with ball-bearing shrapnel, designed by Syria and Iran to maximize civilian casualties, and then hide from retaliation by living among civilians. If Israel decides not to go after them for fear of harming civilians, the terrorists win by continuing to have free rein in attacking civilians with rockets. If Israel does attack, and causes civilian casualties, the terrorists win a propaganda victory: The international community pounces on Israel for its “disproportionate” response. This chorus of condemnation actually encourages the terrorists to operate from civilian areas.

While Israel does everything reasonable to minimize civilian casualties – not always with success – Hezbollah and Hamas want to maximize civilian casualties on both sides. Islamic terrorists, a diplomat commented years ago, “have mastered the harsh arithmetic of pain. . . . Palestinian casualties play in their favor and Israeli casualties play in their favor.” These are groups that send children to die as suicide bombers, sometimes without the child knowing that he is being sacrificed. Two years ago, an 11-year-old was paid to take a parcel through Israeli security. Unbeknownst to him, it contained a bomb that was to be detonated remotely. (Fortunately the plot was foiled.)

This misuse of civilians as shields and swords requires a reassessment of the laws of war. The distinction between combatants and civilians – easy when combatants were uniformed members of armies that fought on battlefields distant from civilian centers – is more difficult in the present context. Now, there is a continuum of “civilianality”: Near the most civilian end of this continuum are the pure innocents – babies, hostages and others completely uninvolved; at the more combatant end are civilians who willingly harbor terrorists, provide material resources and serve as human shields; in the middle are those who support the terrorists politically, or spiritually.

The laws of war and the rules of morality must adapt to these realities. An analogy to domestic criminal law is instructive: A bank robber who takes a teller hostage and fires at police from behind his human shield is guilty of murder if they, in an effort to stop the robber from shooting, accidentally kill the hostage. The same should be true of terrorists who use civilians as shields from behind whom they fire their rockets. The terrorists must be held legally and morally responsible for the deaths of the civilians, even if the direct physical cause was an Israeli rocket aimed at those targeting Israeli citizens.

Israel must be allowed to finish the fight that Hamas and Hezbollah started, even if that means civilian casualties in Gaza and Lebanon. A democracy is entitled to prefer the lives of its own innocents over the lives of the civilians of an aggressor, especially if the latter group contains many who are complicit in terrorism. Israel will – and should – take every precaution to minimize civilian casualties on the other side. On July 16, Hasan Nasrallah, the head of Hezbollah, announced there will be new “surprises,” and the Aska Martyrs Brigade said that it had developed chemical and biological weapons that could be added to its rockets. Should Israel not be allowed to pre-empt their use?

Israel left Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005. These are not “occupied” territories. Yet they serve as launching pads for attacks on Israeli civilians. Occupation does not cause terrorism, then, but terrorism seems to cause occupation. If Israel is not to reoccupy to prevent terrorism, the Lebanese government and the Palestinian Authority must ensure that these regions cease to be terrorist safe havens.

Monthly Jihad Report
(June, 2006)
Jihad Attacks:

212
Dead Bodies:

762
Critically Injured:

1201

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

It’s all about Iraq/The Jooooz, isn’t it?

Yep, it’s all about Iraq/Zionism and…

India and the Sudan and Algeria and Afghanistan and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Ingushetia and Dagestan and Turkey and Kabardino-Balkaria and Morocco and Yemen and Lebanon and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Iran and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Germany and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Scotland and Chad and Canada and…

…and pretty much wherever Muslims believe their religion tells them to:

“Fight and slay the Unbelievers wherever ye find them. Seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an, Sura 9:5

Dear Noa,
What you’re saying moves me. The working people of the world need to open their minds and realize that there are victems on both sides. The leaders and the corporate elite are the problems. They use absolute bullsh** propoganda to push one group of people against another and to keep the fear element up on all sides; that is, with the working class people.
Read your Torah, Bible, Koran, etc., and read it with an open mind and analyze it yourself. I think that if people keep an objective, critical outlook on what they read, they will be thrown back at the primitive, violent nature of these books that only help certain people say they know what GOD wants. And therefore, gain power over other peoples lives. PEOPLE ORCHESTRATE WARS! I, and many others believe in a God of LOVE.
Peace.

Hey Metomizer?
The Ku Klux Klan called. They want their computer back. Their hood, too.

FUCKING JEWS!!!!!!!!

Hi, Let MR. Bush see what kind of people he is protecting….teach the kids to kill people …It is time to let all people over the world discover the big lie of Israel and its plan to kill all the arab nations…It is Bush and the american management mistakes and faults.. they are the responsible of the worst masacre of the year of 2006

Hey Israeli… don’t lie on yourself… be sincere with yourself… you start the war and killed Hundred of Palestinian and lebanease people… don’t lie on yourself… say that you are killer.. you want to build your country on the body of region citizens…

our region has seen violence and bloodeshed for a long long time.

i think we should learn that we will accomplish nothing by war. it is not the way. we have to accept the fact that apparenlty moslems, chrisitians and jews will never like each other. we have to face that fact.

i invite everyone to try to find solutions to our problem, instead of dwelling on the reasons and on hatred. i think we should all think of creative ways to be able to accept each other, without necessarily agreeing with each other… we should find a way to live in peace. agree to disagree, but not kill each other for it!!!

PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE PEACE
STOP THE WARS…

THAT DOES IT, i can understand that Israel hit the Manar TV station which is the Hezbolla station, but to hit the transmission antennas of other neutral lebanese tv and radio stations, that is really LOW. what are they trying to do, alienate us, maybe they dont want the local lebanese tv stations to transmit to the rest of the world the israeli atrocities. This is not possible, why would israel do this, why why why. we are being annihilated, typical zionism. god will not forgive you, your day will come.

Saudi give money to USA (Cheap Oil) =>
USA give High Technology to Jews =>
Jews bombard Lebanon and Palastine =====>
Arabs Kill Arabs and US and Jews are innocent.

Regards

Arabi

http://fromisraeltolebanon.info
see this site and then say for me isreal is not a killer.
They are just a kids??
really shame on what we are watching??

HaNeeN

GOD Almighty likes not the uttering of unseemly speech in public, except on the part of one who is being wronged. Verily,GOD
Almighty is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. This is the right way to deal with people around you, it is realy very wrong to raise up innocent kids with such amount of hatred, what would be the future of them and those who are supposed to be killed, in such environment it is true that their talk about peace is a sort of self-cheating besides cheating others. I,am sure that with such attitude their future will be very dull exactly like their bad inner intentions.

Israel may see this picture :’(

“…?? ??????? ? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ????, ? ??? ??????, ??????? ????? ????????? ??????????? ?????? ???????? ?????????, ???????? ?????? ?? ?????? ???? ? ???????. ??????? ?? ???? ???????????? ?? ? ???????, ?? ? ?????????????? ??????????, ? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ??????. ? ?? ??????????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ? ?????? ?????? ??????, ?? ???-?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ? ??????? ??? ??????, ???? ????, ?????? ???????. ? ??? ??????? ?????? ? ????????? ????. ??????? ?????, ??? ??????????? ??????? ??????????? ?????? ?? ???????? ? ?????? ??? ?? ??????? ? ?????? ? ???????? ??????????. ??? ????????, ????????? ??????????? ?? ???? ??? ??, ?? ????? ?????????????? ?? ?????? ?? ??????????. ? ??????…”

PEACE???!!!
I was born in the west bank, palestine, and leaved to be 17 before i left to USA for education and work. i was away for 9 years, came back to Palestine after Oslo was signed in 1995 full of hope to start my own business in Palestine and help bulding and developing my country.
unfortunately,i was very surprised of what i was seeing and what was happening on the ground.
-After Oslo was signed in Washington DC, Rabin, Prime Minister of Israel at that time, when arrived to Israel, he went directly from the airport to Jerusalem and put the corner stone of Givat Zaev satelment-Mostawtaneh- on the east side of Jerusalem.
-Statisticaly, Israel has build 10s of satelments and increased the number of satlers in the west bank 4 times after oslo was signed.
Palestinians were seeing the enlargment of already existing satelments.
-More land has been confiscated after Oslo, than from 1967-1995.
-Gaza was seperated from the west bank after Oslo.
-More peolpe arrested.
-more killed.
Then, Israeli terrorist Killed Rabin because he was thinking or even concidering returninig land to Palestinians.
-economy was getting really bad.
then Intifada.
Israel is A DEMOCTATIC JEWISH STATE. only for jews.
Let’s be realestic:
Israel dose not want peace, they want land without people, and they will do whatever it taks to get the people out.
Therfore, any resistance to this program will be faced with war from israel.
Israel had many oportunaties to make peace with the Arabs, but always rejected and waged war, like what happened in 2002 when the arab summit in Lebanon offered Israel complite and comprehensive peace if israel withdraw to 1967 borders, and israel replyed with war on the Palestinian and invaded the west bank and reoccupied the west bank, which actually was colonizing it, economically, socially, educationaly, borders, movements……etc.
Believe me, these people are bloody.
The only way to make peace with those people, is only if you are more powefull than them. NO WARENTEES.
SO, PLEASE STOP THINKING THAT PEACE IS POSSIBLE WITH THESE PEOPLE, it’s not in their culture.
God Bless Hamas and Nasrallah

??????,

for your own information, israel DID strike first. oh, by the way, very easy to translate the text to english. maybe you should read more and listen to more news to know the facts.

i dare you to know what i wrote (unless you know someone who speaks arabic, lebanese dialect to be more specific, and i hope you do, cos what i said wasnt nice at all)

Dear Friends, dear citizens of Earth. I know we are all shocked by images coming from Lebanon and Palestine on hourly bases, sending chills up our spines. America and the west justify their support for Israel by tagging other nationals who are in oppose to their imperialistic policies as terrorists and terror supporter.
Really is their any difference between Iran sending the poor Lebanon?s people some arms and America expediting its shipment of advanced weapons to kill more innocent people?
Free people of this world will know what side they should be! And who are the real terror masters on Earth.
We are all sad, mad, exhausted but the real solution is uprising against this war, we all unite we can crush Israel and its mother America. We need to put an end to this true axis of evils.

i am Lebanese living in Lebanon … yes still alive and well …

i say to all the israely ppl since the creation of the “state of israel” the doors of hell were opened you are the devil and the hell on earth …. you are doomed and God will defenetly punish you one day for all the killing all the human crimes all the devivish things you have done you are hell on earth you are nothing but full of hatred murderers …. i use to be a peacefyll believer in love and peace but i think with killers like the israely state we can only pray God to punish the israely th hardest way !!! go back to the old testement and read it well you unbelievers and killers blood sukers do read and see what did God say to moise when your ppl were going to enter the promised land … you are a doomed population …. i watched my beautiful country Lebanon distroyed by the develish hand of the israely you know why ??? because u israely ppl are jalous of lebanon cause its is a rich country rich with Gods blessings while you are nothing but a tool of death … all the money you get from the devil americains all the construction the weapon the power you get will not make u 1% as good as Lebanon …. you may distroy us and keep distroying but WE ARE THE LAND OF ALL RELIGION we are under the protection of God … u are evil EVIL …God will punish you israel again and again and again this is his promise to you go read the old testement you are a doomed population cause you are nothing but evil …you will never live in peace no matter the killing and distruction you spread around you GOD will never give you peace you killers … repent repent repent !!!! repent today maybe God will have mercy on you !!! today i raise my prayers and ask God for justice ….. but as a human as a lebanese that had to witness the unhuman systemetic kiiling of children for years and years to have witness the criminal injustice of the israely nation i say may israel burn in endless hell you are the source of misery and death you do not diserve to existe !

http://stopdestroyinglebanon.com/WarOnLebanon/nfblog/?page_id=3

To Philip, How can you call Hizballah terrorists !?..They never ever did any terror action !!..You call brave men defending their homeland terrorists ?, just because they are fighting Israelis who steal our water and even the earth for planting, and they provcate our borders constantly and kidnap innocent civilians and throw them in jails whenever they wish !!..Hizballah are more far merciful, honest, and at least fighting for their country !!..Israelis are fighting to steal more land for the Jews coming from everywhere, who never saw Israel before and then they call it their homeland !?..Destroying a whole country, killing innocent civilians because of 2 Israeli soldiers, and you support Israelis as well !!??..You and all the others who support Israel are the real DEVILS on earth. God bless Hizballah !!

To find the answer of your questions search google for:

“Bush blame israel”
“Bush blames israel”
“Bush blamed israel”
“Bush will blame israel”
… etc

If the Jews call any one terrorist then the other world should called them so.
If the other world didn’t do so, then they themselves are terrorists and anti-semites.
The other (inferior) world (no matter how they think of themselves) should see an believe what the Jews see and believe.
We (the inferiors) should obey the Jews because they own us.
Hooray Jews (Can I be one of you???)

Regards,

if it was Lebanese children signing Hezbollah rockets the pictures would be shown in all of the western newspapers and t.v, and also when 2 Isreali civilians die it is breaking news and is shown over and over again on the news, whereas when 50 innocent lebanese are killed it is not mentioned..

I am sure that united state will abandon Israel, but will be late on Israel I am sweared by god that what will happen that something inevitable ,hey Israeli’s open your ayes

” ? Not Israel this time has struck the first, and its neighbours who after abduction Israeli the soldier have arranged joyful, victorious dancings in streets of Gaza and Beirut. Israel did not begin to appeal neither to heavens, nor to the international community, and has simply answered impact by impact. And on the Israeli ground rockets are torn today and peace inhabitants perish, but somebody has heard calls for help from Israel? There it is simple, having compressed a teeth, persistently fight. And here reaction of Lebanon and Palestin other.Having received delivery, they have instantly replaced celebratory dancings with moamings and have started to appeal there and then about the help to the world community. These moamings, it is hundredfold TV repeated for the whole world, can psychologically influence on associates. Also influence.On not able to think the head, and under influence of propagation.

I did not claim to support what Israel is doing. I do to a degree, because groups like Hizbollah have to be dealt with, and the only way to do so, sadly, is militarily. And Hizbollah does not mourn the loss of civilians. That is their best PR! Hate groups always operate this way. They claim advocacy and proceed to throw those they advocate into harm’s way. Then when the inevitable occurs, they show blown-up, burned bodies, injured and dead civilians, and they say, “See? See why you need us?” It’s sick. And Gil is right. Israelis have been dealing with crap being thrown at them intending specifically to kill civilians. When Hizbollah attacks, there is no “sad reality of war.” There is only the wretched desire to see a bunch of dead Jews. The Lebanese military can defend Lebanon when needed. Hizbollah is not there to serve that role, and every single Lebanese knows that (including a friend of mine who has Lebanese background and confirms this). Hizbollah is there to destroy Israel and kill as many “filthy Jews” as they can.
And, by the way, I am not going debate the legitimacy of Israel’s existence. The argument is useless and irrelevant. Israel does exist, and whether you like it or not, they are an independent nation. Whether you like that they are there or not means nothing to me. The fact is, and remains, that Hizbollah is a terrorist group and that their primary targets are civilians. If you quote a bunch of numbers to me regarding civilian casualties, it means you have missed the point. The number of casualties is disproportionate only in comparison to firepower. The very nature of the bombs Hizbollah is firing into Israel is for civilian loss.
By the way, since no one knows how to follow a link, I have copied and pasted (pacifist) Lisa’s explanation (truth) about the photos here, in edited form. To read the rest, click here.:

“I phoned Sebastian Scheiner, the Israeli photojournalist who took the photo for Associated Press (AP), explained that the image had given a really terrible impression and asked for the context. He sketched it out quickly and fluidly, but asked me not to quote him. So I spoke with Shelly Paz, a Yedioth Ahronoth reporter who was also at the scene and agreed immediately to go on record. She was quite shocked to learn how badly the photo had been misinterpreted and misrepresented; and she told me the same story Sebastian did, but with more details and nuance.
The little girls shown drawing with felt markers on the tank missiles are residents of Kiryat Shmona, which is right on the border with Lebanon?
Kiryat Shmona has been under constant bombardment from South Lebanon since the first day of the conflict. It was a ghost town, explained Shelly. ?[T] he few who had neither the funds nor connections that would allow them to escape the missiles crashing and booming on their town day and night [remained]. The noise was terrifying, people were dying outside, the kids were scared out of their minds and they had been told over and over that some man named Nasrallah was responsible for their having to cower underground for days on end.
On the day that photo was taken, the girls had emerged from the underground bomb shelters for the first time in five days. A new army unit had just arrived in the town and was preparing to shell the area across the border. The unit attracted the attention of twelve photojournalists – Israeli and foreign. The girls and their families gathered around to check out the big attraction in the small town – foreigners. They were relieved and probably a little giddy at being outside in the fresh air for the first time in days. They were probably happy to talk to people. And they enjoyed the attention of the photographers.
Apparently one or some of the parents wrote messages in Hebrew and English on the tank shells to Nasrallah. “To Nasrallah with love,” they wrote to the man whose name was for them a devilish image on television – the man who mockingly told Israelis, via speeches that were broadcast on Al Manar and Israeli television, that Hezbollah was preparing to launch even more missiles at them. That he was happy they were suffering.
The photograpers gathered around. Twelve of them. ? Photographers look for striking images, and what is more striking than pretty, innocent little girls contrasted with the ugliness of war? The camera shutters clicked away, and I guess those kids must have felt like stars, especially since the diversion came after they’d been alternately bored and terrified as they waited out the shelling in their bomb shelters.
Shelly emphasized several times that none of the parents or children had expressed any hatred toward the Lebanese people. No-one expressed any satisfaction at knowing that Lebanese were dying – just as Israelis are dying. Their messages were directed at Nasrallah.
?And besides, none of those children had seen images of dead people – either Israeli or Lebanese. Israeli television doesn’t broadcast them, nor do the newspapers print them. Even when there were suicide bombings in Israel several times a week for months, none of the Israeli media published gory photos of dead or wounded people. It’s a red line in Israel. Do not show dead, bleeding, torn up bodies because the families of the dead will suffer and children will have nightmares. And because it is just in bad taste to use suffering for propaganda purposes.” (emphasis mine [Philip's])

please do not try to defend anyone who kill innocent people.

such things being done by both israel and nazrallah are not acceptable.

some words for nazrallah: if he were a muslim(or human),he could not kill innocent civilian people. he is a terrorist. and terrorist does not have any religion. by keeping those israel soldiers, he shares the sin of killing people in lebanon.

some words for israel authorized: israel must stop provocating! throwing before bombs is unreasonable. they must stop this war and begin to explain what they want. they should not choose to kill children. we already know that the conditions in which palestinians live are not comfordable. palestinians deserve their country, israel must give back their country. keeping them in a cage is not fair.

israel says their soldiers were kidnapped by hizbollah. then I say: nowadays our soldiers are being killed by PKK terrorists which does not exist among terrorist groups that russia declare. but turkey choose to comminucate with other countries rather than throwing bomb over innocent children. this does not mean they can kill our soldiers but in this case we can show other people that we are right, PKK is wrong.

please do not back anyone who kill innocent people, try to stop war.

7asbiya allah wa ni3ma el wakeel

I just don´t understand all the proIsraelis on this page !!..How can you possibly defend thieves who have stolen other people´s land, and call Hizballah terrorists because they defend their own land !?..Are you stupid, mean or you just hate Arabs and Moslims !?..Can´t you see what Israelis have done to Lebanon !?..they destroyed it in 10 days, and you support their actions as well !?..You must be criminals like the Israelis to support them. Israelis are the evil on earth, and I hope Hizballah will kill as much as they can from those devils. NASRALLAH GOD BE WITH YOU !!

Thank you, Israel kids, we received your message…wait our replay,dont cray….

to Sabbah

You wrote as a rule for replies :

“If your comment is a personal attack against me or (an)other commenter(s); if it contains racist terms; if it is worded so as to create an unpleasant controversy; if it is hateful, scurrilous or negativ; comment(s) will be deleted and commenter(s) will most probably be banned!”

Aren’t the following words racist terms and scurrilous :

“Fucking jews”
“stinkin? Zionist” ?

Or racist and scurrilous comments are allowed only against Jews/Israelis in your blog ?

Actually Roy, Haitham is totally correct in describing Israel as a “terrorist state”, as it was formed largely by members of Irgun and Lehi (“The Stern Gang”) who were recognised TERRORIST organisations who clamied the lives of many civilians. Indeed, the Lehi organisation were so vile and cynical that they even made a proposal to Nazi Germany about joining them in the Second World War, as they believed that this would help them in their Zionist aspirations. Strange but true!

Hey everyone, something just came to my mind while rereading most of these comments. Has anyone ever heard this quote? (You should have, it’s one of the most famous quotes ever by Willliam Shakespeare):
?What?s in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet? -
I am quoting Shakespeare for this reason, every single pro-Zionist apologist coming on here attacking this thread is coming on attacking the words of “the owner”, ” ?Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians – Kids, Die with love.? and trying to defend this picture by using the context, (Lisa Goldman’s explanation being given over and over, which I HAVE read and dismiss).
Firstly, it does NOT matter what this thread is called, it matters what the FACTS are about this picture. It is children signing bombs being sent to Lebanon which are killing civilians and destroying a country in a matter of days. COMPLETE STOP. No one here can honestly defend the fact that children are signing bombs can they? No, I think not. So instead they attack the “messenger” who dared to post them.
Secondly, Lisa Goldman has every right under the sun to give us her opinion and we have EVERY right to either accept or reject it because it is after all OPINION and “defense” by offering her take on the context of the picture which some of us reject as an excuse which is OUR RIGHT. If the “owner” had not used the words that so many of you are using to discredit this FACTUAL picture, would it still not be a “rose”? CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE SIGNING BOMBS period bcause ALL children should really know that BOMBS ARE BAD, certainly these children do, after all, didn’t Lisa say they had just come out from days being spent is a bomb shelter? Oh no, I think maybe someone didn’t think of that angle. These very children have been frightened for days by Katushas, yet here you have a picture of them signing bombs themselves. HMM. Yes indeed, this is one VERY ROTTEN “rose”.

a lebanese: “How can you possibly defend thieves who have stolen other people´s land, and call Hizballah terrorists because they defend their own land”

Israel acquired that land long before the current people groups fought their way onto it. Nasrallah, the savage, is not defending his land but trying to take what isn’t his.

Carla:

Lebanon has let hisbollah spread their infection through your land. Now Lebanon must pay the price for their stupidity. Israel is forced to your dirty work for you. You abuse Israel for carrying out what was forced upon it by Lebanon’s stupidity and laziness? How pathetic.

menj:

If good is to defeat evil then Israel will prevail against the senseless aggression it faces. Your too blind to see what’s happening.

i think i’ve had enough hearing all your views, obviosuly there is lots of hatred, as some have clearly stated, and i agree. i am just very sorry for all the lives, and i do believe it is all in vain. i dont think in this day and age, people still use guns and weapons to solve problems.

to israel supporters: you think hezbolla’s raison d’etre is to exterminate jews, maybe it’s true, if you’re so sure that this is what they teach, but dont forget what is also being taught to jewish kids is exactly the same, to hate muslims, so there, we’re even. i am not a supporter of hezbolla, i dont support everything they do, but at least i know that they are trying to get back the thousand lebanese detained in israel, and that is what i and many other lebanese wish for, but definitely not by killing people. maybe israel might have avoided this by saying YES we will give you back the detainees and we get back the 2 soldiers, mayeb it is that simple. instead, it chose to destroy literally half the country which it took us 10 years to rebuild. anyway, we all know that this war is not just for the sake of the 2 soldiers.

to hezbolla supporters: as i stated earlier, i am not a hezbolla fan, will never be, but definitely i wont choose israel over lebanese, no matter where their allegiance lies. but tell me, what the hell are you thinking, you really believe that hezbolla will be able to defeat israel, you really think it was hezbolla who led israel out of lebanon in 2000, you must be joking. israel would never have left if it didnt want to, ya3ne please stay realistic. im not denying their arrogance, their constant trying not to label themselves as murderers, but again please, dont you think what hezbolla are doing is the same. not everything is solved by war, COME ON. your brothers, mothers, sisters, cousins, fathers are DYING, and for what, tell me for what. i am sorry for being that harsh, but if you believe that what hezbolla is doing is justified to the fullest (i said to the fullest cos there are things we support them with) well im sorry to say it, NO. whatever you answer, wont make you more patriotic than I. i choose to LIVE for my country not DIE for it.

dont bother to send me replies, i wont be checking your responses.

PEACE TO ALL

Carla,
I do hope you check back because I would like to say something to you. I lived in Beirut from March 1975-September 1975, the beginning of the civil war there. I was married to, since amicably divorced from a Moslem. I am an American, an American that regrets deeply what my country is tacitly allowing Israel do to your homeland. I also do not believe that war is EVER the answer and I am afraid for you and all your fellow countrymen. I would like you and others here to know that mine is not the only American voice speaking out against this aggression. I am praying for your safety and for all person’s safety in the country I once called my home. Even during the war, it was beautiful (even if it was frightening as hell) You do not deserve this in ANY way after rising from the ashes finally after so many years. Your voice of peace is heard by me and others and to you I wish you peace in return. I don’t know what else to say, I am completely powerless except to write these words. Yesterday I saw SEVERAL Lebanese flags being waved from cars here in Los Angeles. There are also many demonstrations and people speaking out here against Israel. You are not alone in your fears and hopes, many of us share them with you. Peace to you Carla, and I pray for your strenghth to remain in this utter chaos which you too have no control over. God bless you.

The notion that Hezbo’llah is a terrorist group is an idea put out by the imperial terrorist states. It is also part of the Western media’s stereotyping of all Arab and Muslim groups fighting against neo-colonialism. It is also foolish to reduce Hezbo’llah to this demonic cartoon concept as it denies the person saying it the ability to know more and understand who you are dealing with. No matter your opinion about them, ignorant stereotyping achieves nothing.

No one and i mean NO ONE can compare Hezbollah to the Israelis. Anyone who sides with Israel in this conflict is obviously very ignorant. Hezbollah were the only ppl not to disarm in 82′ for this very reason. Israel is trying to destabilize the entire middle east and thank God there are groups like Hezbollah fighting back. LONG LIVE THE ABAB PEOPLE!!

Oh,and Carla?
Though I don’t agree with you 100%, I am impressed by your well-thought out and rational analysis. This is the kind of reasoned discourse I like to see. :-)

Philip,
With all due respect, it’s not about your judgement and what you would like to see. It is a VERY complex problem with VERY many emotions running high due to understandable and justifiable reasons. I think, no I KNOW, that if you were in the same position as many of these victims of Israeli aggression are, you just might be meeting up with your enemies with that loaded weapon you mentioned along with some EXTREMELY choice words if your family, your friends, your fellow citizens were subjected to such things. Carla said she’s not coming back because she doesn’t wish to discourse in the matter further. These are the words of a person in great pain and suffering herself from the violence all around her. You have got to get this straight once and for all, Israel was founded on the belief that this piece of land was given to them by THEIR God as his chosen people and that they above all others have the right to claim superiority. It is Jews (I use this term because in this case it fits) who alone are grantd citizenship under the law of return and Palestinians do NOT have that right, even though they had owned the land prior. So a “liberal Zionist American” has the right to citizenship in Israel, while Palestinians are enslaved in the West Bank and Gaza, their every move controlled, their water stolen, their lives threatened, all so your liberal Zionist friend from WHEREVER USA can go there and claim her gift from HER God. This is RACISM based on religious affiliation pure and simple. There is NO WAY any rational human being can think that it is ok for a people to claim superiority over a whole other group UNLESS they are a racist themselves. This is just WRONG and for Israel to continue to LIE their asses off about their true intentions as to the whole land of Zion is one hell of a smoke and mirrors move on their part. Read everyone here Philip, those who speak the strongest against the Zionist state of Israel are the very ones who are suffering at their hands. You really need to take a step back and realize that there is a VERY justifiable reason for their rage. Hoping for “reasoned responses” is all fine and dandy but merely calling Israel “sloppy” is one HELL of an excuse for their behavior which is RACIST AND TERRORISTIC to the core.

Do you really read these messages?

Only “Nasralla with love” in English and Hebrew.

I was astonished to see the amount of confusion and lack of compassion existing on both sides of the border.
I mean assume that there was physical contact between bloggers … just think of the consequences.

However, let’s take a look at the situation from a biased angle as I am Lebanese but I will try my best to stay impartial.

- Hezbolla is a Lebanese chiite socio-political movement created in 82. They were the only militia who have kept their guns following the 1990 Taef agreement (while all other militias deposed arms)

Note that their arms have been a growing source for public debate as internal calls for disarming them have been growing.

- Hezbolla abducted 2 Tsahal soldiers at the Lebanese-Israeli frontier (for general information, Lebanon and Israel have never signed a peace treaty following the Arab Israeli war, so theoretically, they can destroy each other ad-eternum)

- Israel responded by waging a military resonse on the southern part of the country in an attempt to cripple Hizballa and its infrastructure, in an attempt to settle this problematic region and in order to disarm Hizballa. They waged a small Blitzkrieg (which is une guerre eclair, a blitz) in order to try and deal with the problem.

- Result ?

2 soldiers are still kidnapped, death toll ratio of 1 Israeli to 10 Lebanese (which on a statistical level is a something that would make a military strategist maybe a bit pleased) , massive Lebanese infrastructure destruction, less massive Israeli infrastructure destruction, rockets flying from both sides, from Israel to Lebanon and from Lebanon to Israel.

I cannot help but raise two questions:

Question 1:

Do all Israeli people want peace?

For a Jew as well as for a Christian, Israel are the Chosen People, to whom our Lord has revealed Himself, and who is ruled by God. This kingdom is not of this world, and when it will become of this world, there will be an eternal peace.

This has always puzzled me until I discovered that there are Jews as well, who still believe that the above still is valid.
https://www.nkuk.org

Can this War be considered to be Holy ?

Hezballa claim that their war against the Zionist regime is holy, and that they will get all rewards in the afterlife for the sacrifice done in this life once they achieve victory.

I take one step back in order to think again about Holy. For I cannot help but think that Holy can but only be the war between Good vs.Evil, where the final outcome will be the victory of Good.
So can we picture Hizballa as being the “Good” and “Israel” being “Evil” ?
Frankly, i think that every human being taking away the life of another is a son of Satan, as one of the commands of the Lord of Israel is “Thou shall not kill”.
This, I hope, is sufficient to refute any claim to holiness for this war.

thoughs are more than welcome,
Ae.

Maybe if some of the people here bothered checking who these shells are ment for, they wouldn’t say this is so disgraceful. I’ve trad an article about it, and saw some pictures, and since I can read hebrew(I’m from Israel, so dont tell me I could have been wrong)I can tell you that whats written on most of these shells is “For Nasralla with love” or “Hasan Nasralla, Underground Bunker”. Maybe now so many people here claim that we are the terrorist’ while peace loving Nasralla who never shot anything to a large population center is the good guy.

to Antoine

First of all the facts :

1. “Hezbollah has been labeled a terrorist organization by the United States, Canada, Israel and Australia”

See the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

2. The Hezbollah not only kidnapped the two soldiers, it started by bombardment of Israeli civilian population, killed three soldiers and kidnapped two others.

“At 9:05 AM local time (0605 GMT), on 12 July 2006,[11] the Lebanese Islamist militant group Hezbollah initiated a rocket and mortar attack on northern Israel, mainly on the village of Shelomi, resulting in five civilian casualties.[27] A large ground contingent of Hezbollah militants then attacked two Israeli armored IDF Humvees on a routine patrol of the Israeli side of the Israel-Lebanon border road near the Israeli village of Zar?it with anti-tank rockets. The militants killed three soldiers and kidnapped two others”

See the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#Beginning_of_conflict

3. Hezbollah constantly threatened and from time to time attacked Israel after (!) the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000.

See the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah#Hezbollah_after_the_Israeli_withdrawal

Secondly, my opinion :

4. Israel’s goal in the current operation is not only to return the two kidnapped soldiers but also to weaken Hezbollah as much as possible to prevent further attacks. Israel would like to have a strong Lebanease state, capable of exercising its sovereinty over its South Border and prevent terrorist organizations from operating from its territory.

5. Regarding the claims about the lower number of Israeli casulties.

The Hezbollah fired about a 1000 rockets on Israeli towns. These rockets were meant to kill Israeli civilians.

The reasons for the lower number of Israeli casulties are
a) Many Israelis left North of Israel
b) Many Israeli citizens have bomb shelters in their houses, work places and there are also public shelters in Israel. The civilian population has been given instructions to stay in the vicinity of the shelters. Sirens are also being heard before the rockets’ attacks.

The Israeli state does the maximum to save lives of its citizens – shelters, sirens and so on. Are the Israilis guilty in that its state cares for them ?

6. I’ve not met a single Israeli who hates Leabanese people. The hatred is toward Nasralla and Hezbollah, but not toward the Leabanese people. I have Arab friends in Haifa. The deaths of innocent civilians in Lebanon indeed make me feel bad.

7. What would you do if you were Israeli prime minister ? Just put yourself in Israel’s position. Have you any real solutions to the current conflict without surrendering to Hezbollah and encourage them to further attacks ?

Husams,

Has fighting brought Good to Palestinian and Israeli children ?

To Thomas, a Dane.
I can appreciate the fact that living in a wellfare state in the scandinavian region makes life in the middle east region hard for you to imagine.

Zionism is a political movement and ideology that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

Fascism is a radical totalitarian political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facism

I am not sure one can follow a logical path from one definition to the other …

this is discusting what israel is doing, letting their kids right messages on rockets, bombs, are those the future murderers of poor innocent lebanese????? i dont understand! and as an American i have no connection with lebanon or israel but i dont agree why my president is not stoping this mass distruciton and letting israel get away with this???????? it is horable.

an american…..

Roy from Haifa,

When you list all the elements you mention to be part of Fascism, it does not seem that you discern between Italian Fascism in the last century (the origin of the word) and the modern meaning of fascism (the ethnocentric nationalism I mention).

Any ideology that promotes particular etnicity to receive preferential treatment within a particular territory and aims at ensuring that that particular ethnicity remains in power and in majority seems pretty fascistic to me!

Even if Zionism only meets some of the elements of prototype Fascism -the historic Italian type- then I would say that it is closer to Fascism (especially the elements of extreme nationalism, militarism, authoritarianism, and anti-liberalism) than it is far from it.

I think that is a quite logical comparison…

Antoine,

Supporters of using the Holocaust to excuse/legitimize Zionism are promoting principles based on xenophobia and intolerance and to apply those kind of principles to all ethnic conflicts in the world would require massive etnic cleansing and forced displacement of people on an impossible scale. In other words an utopic dream that can only result in pure chaos and global anarchy.

I think a healthy revision of the Holocaust is fully in order here. Not because I want to deny that about 5 million Jews were killed in a massive genocide, but because I would like to emphasize that during what is called the Holocaust more than 12 million Europeans were killed in a massive genocide perpetrated by other Europeans and justified by etnocentric nationalism (in addition several more millions were killed by supposedly ‘good’ guys – the Stalinists).

Anti-semitism is wrong, but it ‘only’ accounted for less than half the people murdered by intolerant nationalistic regimes in Europe during WWII. If the Holocaust was ‘only’ about killing of Jews, then we, Europeans, can fool ourselves into believing that we have been successful in ensuring that it did not happen again, but if we look at the Holocaust as ethnocentric nationalism which killed more than 12 million Europeans of which some 5 million happened to be Jews, 1+ million happened to be leaders of Polish society (in addition to the 1.5 million Jews included with 5 million figure), 1+ million happened to be Russians (POWs and civilians killed by the Nazis), hundreds of thousands happened to be Serbs, tens of thousands happened to be homosexual, thousands happened to be political dissidents, several hundred thousands (between a quarter and half of the Roma population) happened to be Roma, and many many more, then we, Europeans (and people around the world), have failed misserably, because many ‘Holocausts’ have happened ever since. None due to anti-Semitism, but all due to ethnocentric nationalism (fascism).

It is also important to note that the Holocaust was not only committed by Germans, but there were also Austrian, Hungarian, and Croatian nationalists who participated – to mention some of the ‘Nazi-friendly’ countries. Even Denmark, and many other occupied countries also had their ‘pro-Nazi’ nationalistic individuals.

As I see it, anti-semitism is just one symptom of ethnocentric nationalism, which is the actual dissease we finally have to realize that we have to deal with.

If we apply the xenophobic and intolerant principles of Zionism, then we have to accept that living peacefully together is impossible and instead create separate and well-isolated homelands for Jews, homosexuals, handicapped, socialists, liberals, Romas, Serbs, Croats etc. and we will have to separate those areas further to ensure that e.g. handicapped socialists do not have to live with and tolerate homosexual socialists.

As I said, I accept the existence of Israel, but I see the realization of the goal to make Israel a pure, ethnically clean state as the incarnation of what I consider to be the root of all evil; ethnocentric nationalism!

That said, I do believe that there are some stand-up Israeli citizens, but I am afraid that they are greatly outnumbered by ethnocentric nationalists at the moment.

and yet, no one complains when parents dress up their kids to look like suicide bombers. nice double standards, yet again the arab world shows that they firmly believe that things only apply when its convinient

What is wrong with people? We (humanity) keep falling into the same old trap of “hate your enemy”. And if you can’t find an enemy, make one. And if you can’t make one, make yourself the enemy. What is this all about? Aren’t we ALL children of God, or Allah. He must be very ashamed of us. We do not live according to his teachings. We murder in His name. What do you think that is doing to us. Look around. It’s so obvious. These are not Israeli children sending these bombs. They have simply been brainwashed (as are ALL people in war, not just one side)to believe that what they are doing is just. Shame on the parents. Shame on the leaders. Shame on us all. We have been reacting to this crap in exactly the way we were supposed to, according to its design. We should feel very bad for all of the children of war, especially the ones who survive, only to spread these words and visions of hate and killing to the next generation of innocent children. I pray every day that Palestine and Israel can get to know each other on a cultural level so that there will finally be peace and life. To share in all that will benefit instead of killing because of differences. I don’t know if God or Allah can ever forgive us for what we are doing to His peolpe. We were never put here for this reason. We were put here to love all of God’s creation, including our “enemies”, who are also and equallyy, God’s creations. We are responsible for what we teach our children and what our children do with these teachings. I do know that one day we will all sit in judgement and will have to face up to what we have done. Especially to our own children. Peace. Shalom. As-Salaam.

Vadim, yes, I was waiting for you to mention Haganah, the paramilitary forerunners of the fascistic “Settler” movement, who espouse ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to create “liebensraum” for the Jewish volk! if that is what you mean by “mainstream” then so be it! The Jewish Agency and Histadrut were the larger organisations of the time. However you omit to mention that Haganah were the paramilitary wing of the Jewish agency (hence they were nore or less the same thing), and that it was they who
gave birth to the vile Irgun. You forgot to mention that though they condemned them in public, they both collaborated closely in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, so they were no angels either! as you know, Histadrut were primarily a labour movement so I’ll leave them out of this.

I also conceed that my use of the word “formation” may have been somewhat misleading as I didn’t explain further about the impact of their terrorist bombings (most notably assasination of Lord Moyne and the King David hotel bombing), and the role of the US and the UK in the formation of Israel. This was one of the first times the UK were slapped down by the new world power, the US. I was writing a short (and somewhat Off-topic) comment in a ‘blog, not a twenty thousand word piece about the formation of Israel! still, many Israelis are experts in throwing out disinformation that takes seconds to write, and hours to refute! I have read about it in The Zionist manuals that teach how to lie convincingly about Israel and its enemies.

You also know as well as I do that members of the Irgun and the frankly lunatic, Judeo-Fascist Lehi (they admitted themselves that their model was Benito Mussolini) also went on to have a HUGE influence in Israel through their descendents, the far right “Likud” party. You have of course heard of Menachem Begin (Irgun) and Yitzhak Shamir (Irgun / Lehi) who constantly condemned “Palestinian terrorists” yet forgot to mention that they were terrorists themselves!

and one final thought …

“Woe to him that builds a town with blood and establishes a city by iniquity!” Habakkuk, 2:12

to MAD with ANGER

2. I do consider myself lucky that I live in a state which cares for its citizens. I hope you too will live in such a state one day. I am not cynnical, I realy mean it.

4,5,7,8,9,10 Israel hits the Lebanon insfrastructure,bridges,fuel tanks to make it hard for Hezbollah to operate inside Lebanon – to disrupt Hezbollah’s communications and resupplies. Israel bombs TV annenas to prevent broadcasting Al-Manar – Hezbollah TV and it is a part of weakening Hezbollah. Israel imposes air, see and ground blockade on Lebanon to prevent resupply of Hezbollah and to prevent smuggling the kidnapped soldiers out of the country. It is all a part of the war on Hezbollah, nobody wants to harm the Lebanese civilians intentionally.

So the hard question is how would civilians evacuate themselves in such circumstances. I admit I do not know the answer, I am not familiar enough with the geography and conditions of Lebanon. I can think about just leaving by foot, I think people can go some 20 – 40 kilometers a day. Or to drive by car as far as yoy can get and to continue from there by foot. The fact is that it is possible – there are very many refugees in Lebanon who did managed to flee the South.

I admit the Lebanese civilians have hard times these days. But Israel does not do all this in order to hurt the civilians, it does defends itself by fighting Hezbollah.

Unfortunetely, in a war you cannot prevent civilian casulties. Are you aware of any war in the modern history, in which there were no civilian casulties ?

Israel has to fight this war with Hezbollah to defend its Northern border.

you are killed for lübnan kids…
You dont know afraid of..i can it….