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Photo of the day: Israeli kids sends gifts of love to Arab kids

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Update- July 24, 2006: a new version of "Die with Love" signed bombs are here. Don't miss the signing show of the Jewish men, and follow your comments on the new post, which is a continuation of this one!

Bloggers and Webmasters: Sorry, I had to move the photos outside my server due to the load it caused which resulted in getting the server down few times. You can get the photos from flickr here, here and here. Also available as an album, here!

Photo caption: Israeli girls write messages on a shell at a heavy artillery position near Kiryat Shmona, in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Monday, July 17, 2006.(AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)

Israeli girls sign gifts for Lebanese

Israeli girls sign gifts for Lebanese

Israeli girls sign gifts for Lebanese


Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians - Kids,

Die with love.

Yours,
Israeli Kids

Hate, disgust, extreme�. I don't know what word can describe these photos.

And they say that we are teaching our kids hate to Israelis!

Thank you, Israel kids, we received your gifts. See…

PS. The above message is imaginary. What they wrote is not necessary what I said above, it could be worse, could be sweet� sweet? Damn, what ever they write, these are bombs that are going to fall on innocent�s heads! The girls might be signing the bombs to be send to Nasrallah and Hezbollah, but the bomb are falling on civilian heads, not Nasrallh!

Update- July 24, 2006: a new version of "Die with Love" signed bombs are here. Don't miss the signing show of the Jewish men, and follow your comments on the new post, which is a continuation of this one!

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{ 408 } Comments

  1. Abu Esam | July 17, 2006 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Maybe if they press a littler harder those bombs will blow up in their faces!

  2. hamede | July 17, 2006 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    unbelievable.

  3. Muslimah | July 17, 2006 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    I keep writing and erasing my words of description, where im comming to conclude there is no word to express myslef; it has gone beyond words to say how I feel when I see pictures like these! I cry instead…

  4. Rob | July 17, 2006 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    Jesus Christ..

  5. Abed. Hamdan | July 18, 2006 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    Oh Shit…I can't beleive they're kids…

  6. Linda | July 18, 2006 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    can you tell us the link to this picture Sabbah?

  7. Haitham | July 18, 2006 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    Sure Linda,

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060717/481/c8723701e8f644f0b5befd7df750e8ea

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060717/481/f9bc38f9a3a9401fb864a02b3a24f678

  8. LAILA | July 18, 2006 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    DISGUSTING. I can only feel hate.
    From Spain i express the total support of spanish population to both palestine and libano in these terrible moments.

  9. imianduru | July 18, 2006 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    Only a number of months ago, Hezbollah openly threatened to abduct Israeli soldiers. Just last week, Hezbollah actually entered into Israeli territory, killed two soldiers and kidnapped two others. That is where this conflict started.

    The Israeli government is responsible for the safety of its own Christian, Druze, Jewish and Muslim citizens. Likewise, I think that the people of Lebanon should complain to their own leaders - not to Israel - if they feel not well enough protected.

    Hezbollah is running 'a state within a state' in Lebanon. Why should you blame Israel for your own problem? You see that this does not solve it, but makes it worse. My advice: disarm Hezbollah or tell them to get lost!

    Long live Lebanon! Long live Israel!

  10. Omar Salaymeh | July 18, 2006 at 2:23 am | Permalink

    wow..
    I'm speechless
    Thanks for sharing Sabah

  11. ma7sere | July 18, 2006 at 4:26 am | Permalink

    really they have no kid soul !

  12. Wisco | July 18, 2006 at 4:50 am | Permalink

    It's been a long time since I've seen a sadder photo…

  13. Natalia | July 18, 2006 at 5:17 am | Permalink

    Who are THE PARENTS who would encourage this sort of thing? Let me smack them.

  14. Nizam | July 18, 2006 at 5:58 am | Permalink

    Where on the missile does it say:

    "Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians - Kids,

    Die with love."

    Or how were you able to translate/figure out what the missiles say?

  15. Jo Walter | July 18, 2006 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    Please no - don't hate, don't smack, don't wish for bombs to blow up in ANY children's faces. Let us wage peace, and find tools to act for justice. Sharing information is good, but must lead to steps to make these hateful actions stop. I fear a "rising up" is necessary - our letter writing to Congress and candle light vigilling on street corners hasn't been working. Soon we may have to put our bodies on the line. Look at these little Lebanese bodies, and Palestinian bodies, and Iraqi bodies, and American troops bodies - how can we NOT put our own bodies on the line?

    We don't have a leader like Gandhi or MLK, but let's get prepared anyway.

  16. Sam | July 18, 2006 at 6:46 am | Permalink

    I am shocked

  17. Rash | July 18, 2006 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Thats just simply disturbing more than it is shocking. Just Unbelievable!

    (Dont try this at home KIDS!!!)

  18. Kent H. Badger | July 18, 2006 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    If indeed it is true that, "The foundation of every state lies in the education of it's youth," then the future foundation for a civilized word is being severely shaken by such thoughtless, careless, and inhumane gestures. This should be applling to anyone calling themselves a civilized human being.

  19. malcontent | July 18, 2006 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    Israel is a beacon of love and peace on the world. Don't listen to anybody who says otherwise. Arabs are the mean ones. Jews are pure and are the favorite of God. God says to kill arabs and that's why these kids do this. They want gods approval.

    What a bunch of scum huh?

  20. Michael Brenner | July 18, 2006 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    What about the pictures of five-year-olds dressed up in Hamas gear toting weaponry? Disturbed by that, or does that make you gleeful with joy?

  21. qrswave | July 18, 2006 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Appalling. I posted it. Thank God you caught it.

  22. John | July 18, 2006 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    Yes, isn't it a wonderful world that has been built in the Middle East. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of what occurs every day and every day in the Islamic media. Would you like to re-read the TV show transcript where a three year old Palestinian girl was being taught that Jews came from pigs and apes and that she wanted to kill Jews when she grew up, and the interviewer and audience thought that was so cute and clever of the child. I'm sure you have forgotten that most likely all those Israeli children have lost friends and family killed by 14 year old Palestinian "children" who strap on a suicide murder vest and blow themselves up in an Israeli market. Why does it shock you so much to learn that Israelis can learn to hate also?

  23. jared | July 18, 2006 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    yeah michael…did they at least killed anyone?
    now,can you say the same about the above Israeli girls,(who are the 3rd generations of the Holocoust survivors.)

    Applauding a rocket with "From Israel and Danielle…" make you a murderer than dressing as one.

    They have bloood in their hands.

  24. maori | July 18, 2006 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    This is a message to nasarallah. You should use Google Earth to learn about prime targets in israel and strike there. Also, you should use meta carta. You can identify places and strike them precisely.

  25. Jackie | July 18, 2006 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    Totally speechless…..when are the injustices going to stop !!Long live Palestine and the people of Lebanon'

  26. Sergeiy | July 18, 2006 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    The thought that weaponry is something very nice for little kids to play with is nothing new in Israel (although this particular example is especially disgusting). If you want more details on the subject, I recommend you to read the following document (especially Chapter 1, which bears directly on the matter):

    http://www.newprofile.org/data/uploads/child_soldiers/English.pdf

    This is the English version. There's also a Hebrew version here:

    http://www.newprofile.org/data/uploads/child_soldiers/Hebrew.pdf

    And an Arabic one here (though I'm not sure the translation to Arabic is any good):

    http://www.newprofile.org/data/uploads/child_soldiers/Arabic.pdf

  27. Yale Namir | July 18, 2006 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    They are so cute. Children are innocent on all sides of this conflict. They learn from their parents.

    Lebanese thank Israel and offer to help defeat Hezbollah. It's over for the Army of God… God doesn't need Armies Thank you.

    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/17/photo-of-the-day-israeli-kids-sends-gifts-of-love-to-arab-kids/

  28. Yale Namir | July 18, 2006 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Well…

  29. Yale Namir | July 18, 2006 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Hezbollah youth…
    http://homepage.mac.com/cfj/.Pictures/young-hezbollah-01.jpg

  30. Rami | July 18, 2006 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    That's sick!

  31. Diane Conti | July 18, 2006 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Sabbah, such a lovely name. It means "morning".

    Never stop telling the truth and exposing the real face of Israel.

    Thank you (sukran) for showing us these pictures that will NEVER be seen by the west.

    Don't let Israeli hatred become your own. You are the next generation. Rise above it.

    Stay safe Sabbah, Allahkursun!

  32. miri | July 18, 2006 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Just to be fair - The messages on the missiles are not addressed to Lebanese kids. They are addressed to Hizbulla leader Nasralla (you cen see that clearly written in English). No where in the hebrew writings there is any reference to any kid. The Hizbulla has sent missiles at Israel's north every day and night for the last 6 days killing without distinction. Israel is fighting back the Hizbulla. I see no wrong in writing messages addressed to the ones who sent the missiles first (and without provocation).

    I am certain there is no single kid in Israel who wants to hurt other kids, not in Lebanon nor Gaza and not in any other place in the world, as I am sure kids are not capable of such hate.

  33. Kent H. Badger | July 18, 2006 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Michael, I'm sorry perhaps you missed my point or I wasn't very clear. What I am saying is that this behavior (condoning or encouraging violence against other human beings) is unacceptable regardless of who is practicing, espousing, or teaching it. Responding violently to violence does nothing but feed an evil flame by continued provocation. What would happen if Israel or Palestine just refused to kill any more and chalked their own losses up to a sacrifice for a greater cause (e.g., life and cohabitation)?

  34. Scott Fink | July 18, 2006 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    How do we know that the kids dressed up in Hamas gear didn't kill anyone? Can you prove their innocence? I'm not saying their guilty, but it seems to me you assume their complete innocence.

    And as far as I know, Palestinians are a people who have been teaching their children to hate for generations. So yeah… there's that, too.

  35. Danah | July 18, 2006 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    This is the sickest thing i have ever seen .. makes my stomach is lurching !

  36. Danah | July 18, 2006 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    This is the sickest thing i have ever seen .. my stomach is lurching !

  37. Linda | July 18, 2006 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Thanks Sabbah for the link.

    You guys, i think the posting of this picture is to show that while the rest of the world sees a few Palestinians teaching their children hate and dressing them up in fighting gear, unfortunately, when Israelis do something wrong, the west never sees it or hears about it. Well finally here is some proof, which goes to show every one that the Israeli government (not the Israeli people) also holds a great deal of blame, maybe even more because their collective punishment is not working!

    And as for teaching hate in schools, what do the hardcore zionists teach their children in school? whats their anthem? oh yeah, the plan on taking over the middle east, "from the Euphrates to the Nile."

  38. Linda | July 18, 2006 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Oh yeah, one more thing.

    While someone claims that these bombs in the pictures are only targeted at Hisbollah, how do you explain the morder of more than 100 dead lebanese civillians already? that is a load of crap, effffffft, "only targeting Hizbollah." Yeah right! I am so sick of balatant lies!

  39. Haitham | July 18, 2006 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Nizam

    I didn?t say this is the written message, I mean this is the teached message!

    But look at the third photo, it is clear read ?? with love?

    Michael Brenner and Yale Namir,

    That is as much as sick as these. I hope you are not justifying these photos, are you?

    Miri,

    The bomb are falling on Lebanese kids, not Hezbollah and Nasrallah!

    Scott Fink,

    Are you justifying what this kids are doing?

  40. Husams | July 18, 2006 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Scott Fink, i do know because "The Israeli human rights group B?tselem reports that 903 Palestinian children and 109 Jewish-Israeli children have been killed in hostilities between 29 September 2000 and 30 June 2004." which means on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 max evil or terrorism, Palestinians will take 1, while Israelis stand high at level 9.

    John, yes it?s allowed to Israeli kids to hate also, but then it?s also allowed to Palestinians kids to hate multiple 9 times. Just do the simple math, and always keep this clear fact in your mind, that Israelis are the one who came from all over the world and occupied Palestine. What can I say more! You may have the power to own respect from the rest of the world but does that make you right?!

  41. Husams | July 18, 2006 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    John, just show me justice, you know two families, one strong family occupied the house of the other family and killed 9 of their children, while only one of its children has been killed, judge on them, is it usual for your principles to stand with the family that occupied and killed and consider your self fair?

  42. Sergeiy | July 18, 2006 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    To Miri: You are wrong, claiming that Hizballah's rockets on Israel are unprovoked. Israel bombed Lebanon, killing 53 civilians, on the first day the Hizballah started firing rockets. It's the Hizballah that is responding to Israeli shelling and missiles, not the other way around.

    You may claim that Hizballah's military action against the IDF preceding all this mess was unprovoked (technically that would be true, though this would be missing the whole picture), but ISRAEL WAS CLEARLY THE FIRST TO TARGET CIVILIANS IN THIS CONFLICT.

    Please stay true to the facts!

  43. maori | July 18, 2006 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Sabbah, this is how democracy is spread. Listen what Prime Minister of Israel told to leaders in middle east. That they will end up like saddam hussein.

    Sabbah, it is much safer and people respect the law in middle east unlike in america or israel,britain or switzerland. Where the laws are different for different people. One who holds the gun is the sheriff in those cow boy land. That is the language they speak and do.

    Arab league should enforce laws that should restrict any access to israel land, water or through see. We should impose sanctions against israel. Arab league should block all the ships heading toward israeli water anywhere in the world. they need to pass throug our waters.

    Peace process is dead - Arab league. Also, No country in this world nor its citizens acknowledge United Nations. Why don't we initiate a poll if people acknowledge the United Nations as an impartial and unbiased organization. Aiyn has triggered a very thoughtful and very important subject which needs to be discussed.

    Also we should also initiate a movement around the globe to either ratify United Nations or just pull it down. I hope you are listen Kofi Annan. Are u a puppet of Bush and Blair and the holy queen or do u represent the international community. Are you are just a mere toothless tiger or dummy.
    An illegal war in iraq but still america, britain and the holy queen are not accountable. By the way people do u know that queen is the head of the state and people of iraq can sue her for the war. or you can justify any reaction against her directly.

  44. Iris (from Israel) | July 18, 2006 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    You are being manipulated! Please have a carefull look at the writting (in plain English on those missiles). To whom are those greeting addressed? Lebanese children? No, To Nasrallah!

    All it shows is that those girls, in Kiriat-Shmone, who are being bombarded by Hezbollah hate Nasrallah, as your kids may have hated Sharon, etc! Wanting Nasrallah (their war enemy) dead is not the same as wanting Lebanese children to die. You may be surprised, but there is no joy (but only sadness) in Israel, when we see children and civilians killed by Israeli missiles. This is because, although we know that our missiles may hurt civilians, we do not INTEND this and we HOPE that they will only hurt the Hezbollah fighters who are our opponents in this war. I do not think you ever saw Israeli children showing joy at the view of such pictures, as unfortunately, we saw Palestinian childreen expressing joy after carnage on Israeli busses or after Sep-11.

    So why Mr Sabbah do you create this montage? why manipulate the emotions of people?

    I hope, you will find these words constructive, and will publish them..

    Iris

  45. AJ | July 18, 2006 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    For John: when the palastinean teenagers watch themselves being killed & orphaned,& thier families & neighbors being slaughtered while the WHOLE WIDE WORLD is watching, justifying & covering thier massacres, then i guess taking some of ur murderers with U would make a bit of sense, dont u think!

    As 4 miri: The United States government & the Israeli government, eliminated words like FAIR, JUSTICE, REASON & " How could this Be" from mankind's dictionary.
    U said there is nothing wrong in writing messages on missiles for the ones who started it , i am with u , but should it be done by kids, shouldnt those kids be as far as possible from such military sites , like playin games and stuff!
    Their parents & soldiers may tell them its addressed for Hizbolla or enemies, but they r only targeting kids, infants, women and innocent ppl, DESPITE ALL THE TECHNOLOGICAL PRECISION & ACCURACY THEY HAVE!!!

    Plz i hope that everybody forget thier belongingness & thier wrongfully preplanted thoughts, and lets all act like we R aliens who have just arrived from Mars and we r watchin whats goin on by our own eyes and not by some truth-concealing media, and then i am sure our judgement will B more than fair & satisfying for the human conscience & dignity.

  46. malcontent | July 18, 2006 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Israel has never ever done anything wrong to anybody. They are poor peaceful people who would never ever torture anybody, occupy 3.5 million people, round up tens of thousands of people and throw them into jails without charges or trials, lock up kids and women, kill civillians or anything like that.

    Israel is the victim here. They were just minding their business when all of a sudden, out of nowhere, without any reason or justification KIDNAPPED THREE SOLDIERS!!!!!.

    How else can israel respond to that except by raping a county, killing hundreds of civillians and destroying the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. After all the mean and evil a-rabs KIDNAPPED THREE SOLDIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh my god, all arabs need to die for that evil crime. KIDNAPPING THREE SOLDIERS!!!!!!!!!

  47. Israeli | July 18, 2006 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    These are not messages for Arab kids, these are messages to Hizbollah rocket launchers which these guns are targetting. Hizbollah fired over 2000 rockets last week at those Israeli kids.

    If you think you would be more noble than these kids after living in a bomb shelter for 7 days while Nassrallah keeps appearing on TV promising to kill you, you have no clue what you're talking about.

  48. Khaled Nazzal | July 18, 2006 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    I hope every one still believes in PEACE will see those photos to have an idea about the upcoming israeli generation…

    Please Ahmad allow me to use ur post in my blog.

  49. Eurosabra | July 18, 2006 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Kiryat Shmona is one of the most intensively bombarded places in the Middle East, since 1978 when Fateh first began sending Katyushas over the border. Not only these children will grow up under fire, but their parents as well, grew up spending significant time in bomb shelters, subject to a bombardment that in '78, '82-'83 rivalled any bombardment in Gaza or Lebanon. The false quiet of 2000-6, in which the only civilians killed were Israelis dead at the hands of Lebanese, is now over…and a message to Nasrallah is appropriate. However, bringing kids into the proximity of high explosive, no matter how stable, is not, especially since the shells in the photograph are already fused (apparently) and are therefore "live."

  50. Tahrir | July 18, 2006 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    The best is that it seems that we only pay attencion when Palestininas or lebanesse, in this case Move. What about the weeks before when Israel was bombing the beaches of Gaza? Ah, maybe palestinans are born to dye and as i saw in a soldier helmet in Israel, they have born to kill. Soory for the kids, the ones that learn the hate on their daily life because there is nothing else but destruction allaround, and the ones that are teached on their own families to make destruction all around.
    Solidarity with the civilian population suffering.

  51. maori | July 18, 2006 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Haitham, They are sending UN peace keepers itseems, WOuld it be like the Serebrenica Massacre of Palestinian and Lebaneese. The ethnic cleansing would be under the blessings of UNited Nations now.

    Why is the arab leagues keeping quiet. Arab League should deploy its forces now for ground offensive

  52. Sergeiy | July 18, 2006 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    To Iris and others - as remarked above, the messages may be addressed to Nasrallah, but the missiles are addressed to the children.

    But what astonishes me in your response (well, not really. I live in Israel myself, and know well enough what kind of attitudes prevail here) is that you think it is fine and well to have little girls go to an army base and write messages on missiles. You think there's nothing wrong with having elementary school kids write those messages to Nasrallah on a missile, a real one, as part of some State-run activity.

    What kind of educatoin is that?!

  53. The New Resistance | July 18, 2006 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Why Does Everyone think that wut they hear on the news from the Israeli or any of the west is true u think that this has all started because of 2 kidnapped soldiers unprovoked.Israel is the only country in the world that does political assassination and nobody says anythang they have bin doin opperations in sercret in lebanon for decades.when a israel does somthan the are defendin them selfs but when an arab does it there a terrorist Wake Up people.

  54. jackin | July 18, 2006 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    I like to go by the philosophy that the default human is not arab or america or france, but they aren't of any nationality. We are all, at the root of it all, human. We should all have feelings of empathy for other humans, because we are all the same. a lebenese is an israeli at the root of it. But the world isn't perfect, and we have wronged each other.

    people have grown up in wars, have lost their best friend to a bus bombing, and have to sleep in bomb shelters.
    people have been kicked off their family's land, have grown up in poverty, have had have their dignity revoked and lost their cousins to shrapnel from a missile,
    they have all suffered.

  55. Aaron | July 18, 2006 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    OK now I get it. When the Palestinians train their kids to wear suicide belts you're quiet. Now all of sudden you love kids. Gimme a break!

  56. ma7sere | July 18, 2006 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    hey haitham :,…. i just want to say that u must give us more pics and show them here to make the world knews how israel teach the kids how to hate arab and islam with the same side ,
    and i want to say (allah) will give end but when the pple move something else ,.. so haitham god save u and i like this site so much cuz u make the world see what is israel means

  57. Haitham | July 18, 2006 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Tahrir,

    Maybe you are visiting my blog for the first time, this why you think it's only now I move. Well my friend, if you scroll my blog a little bit more you will see that 90% of it is dedicated to Palestine (my origin), and you can visit archive and see more and more about Palestine and Palestinians.

  58. Ranoush | July 18, 2006 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    I am realy shocked and words aren't coming out… I can't imagine how a child can be soo mean… but this attitude isn't new for israely ppl or there children… I haven't read all thats writen but i agree with abu essam… hope that it explodes in there face!!!

  59. Haitham | July 18, 2006 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Khaled Nazzal,

    My name is Haitham, not Ahmad :-)

    Please feel free to use whatever you like from my blog, with a small link to my blog, would be great :)

  60. Prop | July 18, 2006 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    I wonder, Sabbah, why you chose to delete my reply. Could it be because I mention the messages says "to Nassrallah [Hizballah leader] with love" rather than "to Arab/Muslim/Christian Kids" as you put it?

  61. Ranoush | July 18, 2006 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    This reply is for Israeli…
    I am sorry u feel that way.. but at least ur kids have found shelter when Hizbullah promised to kill them or even fired at them..
    but our kids (lebaneese and palestinian) have no where to go and even if a shelter was found thanks for the israellian they'll bomb it anyway as was done in Qana 1996 or should i say more…

  62. Haitham | July 18, 2006 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Israeli,

    No one denies the fact that civilians are hit at both sides, and I'm not going to argue what numbers are dying on this or that side. War is no good for anyone… but the message here is simple.

    Occupation is the root of evil in this part of the world. So, just a small reminder: "Get the hell out of my homeland and live in peace."

  63. Alon | July 18, 2006 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    As an Israeli I can read the hebrew text.
    One line says' "Iv'e been waiting for this a long time", and the name "Nasrallah" appears. The shell was definitely dedicated to Nasrallah, and not to his neighbour's children.

    Unfortunaltely, Nasrallah runs his campaign against the civilian population of Israel established and internationally recognized cities, from Lebanon, A country with which the border is recognized, form a bunker in a densely populated area.

    Combining the 2 pictures is obviously false propaganda.

    Condolences to everyone living in Lebanon, Gaza Strip, or anywhere else, who suffer the consequences of terrorist actions done by his neighbor

  64. AJ | July 18, 2006 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    To the Dear American People:

    I want to tell u a story, & try to imagine it with me!

    It was a sunny morning,in a small village on God's beautiful planet,Earth. Kids were playin joyfully on the green grass,enjoying the warmth of the sun, it seemed like it would be a wonderful day, until they heard their parents calls; to get ready to move. It was an evacuation order by a marching army calling on the small population of that village to leave their houses & everything behind, for an invasion was coming!

    The children were gathered, and up onto a pick-up truck, it seemed like a safe way to transport, for the truck was with no roof so everybody would see that it was transporting kids & nothing but kids. Their identity, their blossoming age & their small soft bodies & lovely looks were their only weapon of defense. Can u see them…. CAN U SEE THAT TRUCK.. driving on the village way , loaded with kids trying to find a safe house of anykind to provide them the proper shelter they deserve.
    Suddenly , they reach a United Nations house,a center founded to help the ones in need, and provide them with the minimum level of safety & shelter to sustain their survival. Signs of relief & joy drew on their faces & the driver relaxed thinking that his dangerous trip has come to an end by finding a safe haven to foster those kids even for a short length of time, but to his surprise, he realized that his & those children's ordeal; was far from over. The UN troops in that building refused to receive the innocent angels, and a UN soldier waves his gun & orders the driver to leave with the kids,as if he smelled the scent of death in those roses. It seemed that he knew the lurking enemy more than anyone.
    The driver turns on the pick up truck and moves away feeling turned down, desperate & afraid , yet he didnt give up knowing that all what he was carrying were human juveniles & that the darkest frowning face would smile upon seeing a five year old boy or a nine year old girl.
    He drove tryin to reach the nearest village, cheered up by the childrens singing in the back and their innocent laughs who would leap into one's heart upon hearing them. And suddenly the sound of an air raid rang out in the sky, his heart started pounding rapidly… but not for long, two missiles launched from the F-16 up, BOOOOOMMMM , hit right into the truck erasing not only any sign of life, but the laughters & smiles of innocent kids who never knew what hit them.

    Can U see them… burnt out pieces of flesh scattered here and there,limbs & faces covered with their own Ashes, a tiny melting hand holding a Barbie doll & laughs filling the air one minute ago.

    I want u to imagine those "X-kids", can u see them, degrading by the burning effect of fire & explosives, transforming into black skeletons with nothing but hair & their pure souls rising up to the Lord.

    Now imagine they R americans.
    I want each & everyone of u to imagine them as his & her kids, AND ACT UPON THAT!

    GOD PRESERVE ALL THE KIDS OF THE WORLD,YOURS & OURS.

  65. Khaled Nazzal | July 18, 2006 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    I'm Sorry Haitham! I know your name well… but at the time of writing the comment I was reading an email from my friend Ahmad Sabbah, so I guess it was so much for my brain :P
    The link is in the post, thank you.

  66. Joe Rufo | July 18, 2006 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    I am neither Jewish nor an Arab. I'm an American so I guess many will think I side with Israel and against Arabs, but that's not necessarily true. I have some Jewish friends, and Arab friends as well.

    I'd like to float a proposal that I have absolutely no power to make happen. But sometimes good ideas don't necessarily come from the people in charge, so here goes.

    1. Israel relocates to a piece of land of the same size and general landscape in the United States. Perhaps part of Florida or California, on the water, just as their country is now. They would have total independence, much like the Indian Reservations that exist today in the US.

    2. The present land that Israel would vacate would be turned over to the group of Arab states that currently border Israel to divide it as they wish.

    3. In order to appease all parties, before the land was turned over, and after all Isaelis had vacated the land, the entire piece of land would be demolished. Everything would be destroyed, temples, walls (holy, wailing and otherwise), mosques, churches, and every single structure of any religious significance whatsoever.

    4. All parties - every Arab state, Israel and the US - and perhaps all other parties with any interest in this matter (including Al Queida) would sign a non-agression pact for eternity.

    5. In their new homes (Israel's in North America) and all Arab-designees in the former Israel, each could then build whatever monuments, holy sites or other structures they wished, worship to their heart's desire at those holy sites, and form any government and infrastructure they wish - all in peace.

    Since the US is an ally of Israel, it would be their role to find the land for Israel to relocate - at no cost to Israel. Relocation costs would be at Israel's expense. All parties would equally share the cost of demolishing the old Israeli site.

    That's the idea. It's probably impossible, but I think it could make everyone happy.

  67. Human Being | July 18, 2006 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    "If your comment is a personal attack against me or (an)other commenter(s); if it contains racist terms; if it is worded so as to create an unpleasant controversy; if it is hateful, scurrilous or negativ; comment(s) will be deleted and commenter(s) will most probably be banned!"

    I'm very confused. It appears to me that you violate your own rules by posting this creation in your blog. You create a message and then later say it is imaginary. If you are not fanning the flames of hatred then please explain your purpose?

    I'm sure you won't post this but I feel better for sending it.

  68. silvia | July 18, 2006 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    do u also have pictures with dead children in new york killed by arab terrorist???????!!!!!!

  69. Haitham | July 18, 2006 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    For all the hater comments, thanks, and welcome. You are just showing your metal, nothing new. Stay around and I'll try to treat you better.

    PS. No comment was deleted (including haters) at this particular post except those used slang words.

  70. N/A | July 18, 2006 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    jews are so damn messed up. how can a parent allow their child to sign such things against other children. jews are so messed up in their minds in everything. they are lost. but you kno wat? WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND. God has a special place for the arabs and they will definatly be in my prayers!

  71. HASSAN NASRALLA | July 18, 2006 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Every dead Child is one TERORIST LESS , YOU ARE KILLING MY TERRORISTS STOP!!!!

  72. thomas | July 18, 2006 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    The current aggression did not begin with Hezbollah kidnapping 2 Israeli soldiers; it was just the final straw, or a good excuse, for Israel. But nobody's mentioning anything bad that happened before that incident (on both sides; 9,000 Hezbollah or Lebanese are being held by Israel right now; I've heard the kidnappings were Hezbollah trying to gain some negotiating leverage). They are punishing Lebanon, and many innocent civilians, for not cracking down on Hezbollah. But Israel is powerful enough to attack Hezbollah directly without punishing Lebanon as a whole, without wiping out their infrastructure.

    As for Silvia, who says "do u also have pictures with dead children in new york killed by arab terrorist???????!!!!!!" Well, I'm not sure the person in charge does. But I'm sure they are available, along with pictures of the innocents that Americans have killed all over the world for hundreds of years (can anyone say Native Americans?), most recently including SOME 40,000 IRAQI CIVILIANS.

    murder is always wrong. it is just more painfully apparent when it breeds this kind of hatred along with it.

  73. Disgusted of London | July 18, 2006 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Appalled.

    Slidehsow of pictures: ""

  74. Robin | July 18, 2006 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Hey Joe Rufo,
    What a novel idea you've come up with. Just imagine, the Arabs as you call them (I prefer Palestinians because this is exactly what your ruckus is all about) would get their land back with no mosques or churches left. Presumably, they all have agreed to this so so far so good. Then we have the case of all the Israelis needing to be relocated to some "coastal site" comparable to what they left behind. The US government is given the task of finding just the right location. Since this is your idea as an American and it is America driving this massive relocation and giving back of demolished holy sites, I feel it is only fair that Americans need to pay some kind of sacrifice of their own. I suggest that the sacrifice would be based on a plan similar to this http://www.alnakba.org/. Then all really is fair and equitable is it not. I don't know why nobody hasn't come up with this idea before. What do ya' think?

  75. eddie | July 18, 2006 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    well, now we see exactly why people tend to hate the israelis. the events of the past few DECADES is more than enough info; the squatting israelis are leading the way to their own certain destruction. well, the bright side of that thought is that when, not if, someone nukes them, we will not have to put up with them anymore and the jews own prophecies will become self-fulfilled. perhaps then the jews will understand exactly what they have been chosen for: persecution. these people have been chosen by god himself for persecution and they are sick of it. they believe that they are untouchable, opposite of being persecuted. they have reversed their own beliefs to fit their own selfish desires. so they're greedy, smug, condescending, hateful and just plain mean. now they're spreading their 'religion' elsewhere, like annoying birds shitting everywhere.

    i'm cheering for the palestinians, the lebanese, the iranians, the syrians… the entire middle east. israel can go to hell (oh, wait; they're already there…).

  76. Daniel | July 18, 2006 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    WOW… Israel is really crazy. It should't be ever created.

  77. AJ | July 18, 2006 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    I go with Joe Rufo's suggestion. Moving Israel to a land among the vast United States its ally would RADICALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM and i assure u it will put an end to all violence in the region. Arabs will live happily with no wars , and Israel will live in peace too far from its enemies. I wish that all of them approve on this idea if they really want to end violence.

    A short reply for Silvia: We all mourn kids & innocent wherever they were and to whom ever they belonged to. NY kids are as dear as our kids to us.
    The unfairness & tyranny excuted by Israel & the United States towards any nation would result in the emerging of desperate ppl who would try to let out some of the supression they r suffering cuz they have no armies or ways to defend themselves, all they can do is watch their countries being occupied and citizens being killed. Some will try to do something about it and it certainly wont B good. United States created ppl like Bin laden & Zarqawi which i am sure they will both burn in hell along with Bush & Rice cuz they are as guilty as they R, they gave me " reason" and they made them lose their heads , cuz not all ppl can take it or tolerate what the average man can tolerate, some ppl lose it and start thinking wrongfully & with perversion. But there is ALSO no excuse for the terrorism exercised by countries , cuz they shud know better , and they r not some straying person but cuz they r supposed to B civilized and they represent a whole nation.
    Anyways , a lot can B said , but i hope that in the End GOOD prevails.

  78. Nassarala | July 18, 2006 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    The message says: "To Nassarala, from Israel with Love" and no To Arab or Libanese kids.

    All you are sick!!!!!!

  79. Baraa Abd El Badia | July 18, 2006 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    The two israeli soldiers were made prisonners by Hezbollah resistance fighters ON the Lebanese territory where their sqad penetrated (what they regularly do). And in Israel there are dozens of Lebanese people still in jail (not counting the more than 1000 Palestinians). So the Lebanese have the entire right according to international law to defend their territory and they have the right to make prisonners of war.
    When I see these pictures of children, I just remind myself about the German children who were also "taught" about Slavic or Jewish "terrorists" that need to be killed, like in the Warsaw ghetto.
    This proves all human beings are equal, in good and bad. The Jews are not worst (as Nazis thought) and not better (as the Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and now Iraqis know). These children are not responsible but their parents will go to hell for that.

  80. Omar Baloch | July 18, 2006 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Talk about teaching hate. And these people talk about pluralism and world peace.

  81. Allah Dumbstein | July 18, 2006 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    Sad that kids, being innocent and all, are shown in this way. Just because these pictures are of Israeli girls, I'm sure there are plenty of other examples of ADULTS teaching their own CHILDREN hate towards another group of people…hear me Palestine, I've seen the documentries, you're no angel either when it comes to teaching your children love and respect for all human beings…

    I am so tired of all this - how long will it take all of these people to realize how stupid and immature they look to the rest of the world? I am bored beyond caring anymore for this situation and it's so sad that, even now, in the 21st century, we're still dealing with this kind of stupidity.

    According to http://www.geohive.com, Israel's population is estimated at 6.35 million on July 1, 2006. Using the same website, the occupied Palestinian territory has about 3.89 million. Together, they have roughly 10.24 million people in these 2 countries - or, to put it another way, these 2 countries have less people than Moscow, the 20th largest city in the world. Even worse, using the same website, http://www.geohive.com, the Earth's total human population was estimated to be 6.53 BILLION on July 1, 2006. This means that so much news, so much drama, so much BULLSHIT is put into our daily lives from this "situation" for .00157% of the total population on this planet - what a joke. There is so much more all the people of this region could be doing to contribute to the world - instead, we get to watch their hate and propaganda (FROM BOTH SIDES) day in and day out, every single day, on TV, in print, and now on hundreds of websites like this - I'm sick and tired of it, grow up, quit being barbarians, and try to join civilization in the 21st century already.

    Maybe quit teaching your kids hate (EVERYWHERE), start practicing being respectful towards others - even if they're not the same religion as you - and start working towards a goal of living in peace - TOGETHER. This goes to all the people of this region. Being fed up with your drama bullshit is an understatement - do something positive with your lives and don't be remembered, more so than you already are, for being evil and full of hate - all because of religion and not being able to agree on property…

    Reply - http://www.geohive.com, Israel\'s population is estimated at 6.35 million on July 1, 2006. Using the same website, the occupied Palestinian territory has about 3.89 million. Together, they have roughly 10.24 million people in these 2 countries - or, to put it another way, these 2 countries have less people than Moscow, the 20th largest city in the world. Even worse, using the same website, http://www.geohive.com, the Earth\'s total human population was estimated to be 6.53 BILLION on July 1, 2006. This means that so much news, so much drama, so much BULLSHIT is put into our daily lives from this \"situation\" for .00157% of the total population on this planet - what a joke. There is so much more all the people of this region could be doing to contribute to the world - instead, we get to watch their hate and propaganda (FROM BOTH SIDES) day in and day out, every single day, on TV, in print, and now on hundreds of websites like this - I\'m sick and tired of it, grow up, quit being barbarians, and try to join civilization in the 21st century already. \r\n\r\nMaybe quit teaching your kids hate (EVERYWHERE), start practicing being respectful towards others - even if they\'re not the same religion as you - and start working towards a goal of living in peace - TOGETHER. This goes to all the people of this region. Being fed up with your drama bullshit is an understatement - do something positive with your lives and don\'t be remembered, more so than you already are, for being evil and full of hate - all because of religion and not being able to agree on property…'); return false;">Quote
  82. Muslimah | July 19, 2006 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Well Silvia, It's not always about "America" is it. What about the children that were killed in the Rowanda genocide? The Bosnian genocide? The Chechenian 'non-proclaimed' genocide? in Sudan? In Afghanistan? In IRAQ? In Pakistan? And of COURSE what about the children killed in Palestine? in Lebanon?
    -
    What about all those children that have lost their lives, or are still loosing their lives because of the American support in each of these wars???

  83. Muslimah | July 19, 2006 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    Correction, perhaps not "supported", sinnce there was no official war in some countries I stated, but clearly they had the power to stop these agressions! They didn't, or for some it was far too late.

  84. Carla | July 19, 2006 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    whether hizbolla or israelis, both are murderers. i am proud to be lebanese, but know that not all lebanese support hizbolla, however, lebanon and israel have been in war for as long as i can remember, and the world knows that israel is more powerful than hiszbolla, but does that justify its actions in lebanon, i say NO, does that justify the killing of hundreds of innocent people and children, i say NO.

    as for those who think lebanon deserves this, well think again, no one in their sain mind would approve of this, what israel is doing is barbaric, they wanted to show who is the strongest, well we all know who is, it's not a matter of who's strong and who's not.

    imagine someone trying to take your country, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN THEIR PLACE, just sit and watch? look what israel is doing just because hizbolla captured 2 soldiers, wouldnt hizbolla want to do the same to free all the captives in israel.

    have an open mind, and stop kidding yourselves, and most of all, stop having the FOLIE DES GRANDEURS, cos they're nothing grandiose about israel

    to check more about what israel is doing please visit http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.

    Reply - http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.'); return false;">Quote
  85. maori | July 19, 2006 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Silvia and all other americans or allies of the americans. Perhaps you people only listen or are used to the words of steel. In your lands, one who holds the gun becomes the sheriff or the one who dictates the law. Isn't it true. What would you do when some body holds the gun against your children? Israeli's are holding missiles and nuclear war heads on our children. So we are just merely reacting. O by the way, british or american, in your land the bigger the gun you have the longer the title such as "LORD" or "SIR".

    You fought for your independence isn't it. Fought from the British isn't it.The German's they would say that foreignors are not allowed to stay, French also they say that if you are foreignor you do not have the right to stay or hold position. So are the italians. The Swiss they wouldnt allow any foreignor to stay in their lands. Why is that you fought war against HITLER for occupying your lands.

    All the palestinians are fighting for their land. Your leader's say " we need to create conditions so that the arabs come to the negotiation table. Mr. Blair and Mr.Bush were caught on tape. So be it Mr.Blair we are prepared for it, you are acting god. You want to nuke our children our lands with nuclear weapons. We shall embrace it. O by the way Queen, we shall send you some blood of our children for the holy grail and the mass. What would you like to eat children or would you like human parts of people from IRAQ to look much younger.

  86. Joe Rufo | July 19, 2006 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Robin (Post 133):

    I'm not sure how to take your last few sentences. But I think you're missing the fact that America is giving up alot of land to make this happen. Relocating Americans, infrastructure, etc in order to provide an equal space for Israel to relocate. I think that, plus an equal share of the cost to clear the land the Israeli's leave should be ample contribution.

    And don't forget, although Mosques and Churches would be leveled, so would Synagogues, the Wailing wall - everything. Call it a new era - the year 0 - where everyone can start fresh in peace.

    Would God or Allah really want a piece of rock or a slice of dirt to be the reason why people kill each other?

  87. maori | July 19, 2006 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    With Mr. Bush asking condi to make a trip to middle east to sort things out. There are quite a lot of negotiations being carried out across the table with egyptian minister's visit in USA. Situation Analysis is that condi is trying to buy the situation out by involving egyptian negotiators in place. Which would help her as a leaveraging arm. Consider the other angle with french moving in for a negotiation and european foreign affairs minister try to do some damage control. There is little hope from both sides that they do not have any remote control or slightest idea to control hamas and hezbollah. One tactical outcome would be to create situation by involving syria into a military conflict. In washington, this idea is sending chil down the spine of Mr. Bush and Blair. A mess in IRAQ and Mr. Bush wishes to control things. Hezbollah has tactical, strategic and military advantage of its warfare. An alliance with Al-qaeda would make it extremely powerful and there is speculation with in MI5 circles and CIA that with these organization collaborating the situation would explode that it would send ripples in their lands.

    It is indeed a very strategic and tactical move by the arabs declaring that Mideast peace process is "dead". American and international community now will search of a means through the united nations. The same united nations, where in the proposal of qatar was vetoed by the americans and syrian ministers are blocked from free speech. This is an unwelcoming message and hostile act of war against all the middle east nations. With worseneing relations with pakistan and taliban fighting back and capturing 2 towns. The media is downplaying an already scribed defeat. Arab nations and their allies should stand by the strategies, involve in naval blockade based on Arab League and reaction to the veto of resolution against israeli aggression against its territories. More wore by internation conventions and international law, syria is on a tactical advantage of provacative and threat to its national security by flying a military jet f16 just over the Syrian Presidential Palace. Consider a similar scenario, if this happened with Northkoreans flying a jet over White house or Japanese counter parts. It would account to breach to security of state and war is declared over night. According to international law, any act unprovoked by any state, a nation can react as self defense. Thats what syrians should be ready and prepared to do. The americans and british have alot of stakes to loose. This is the oppurtunity arabs should cash in on. We have seen pearl harbours created. Let me repeat the words of the director Mr. TOny Blair " we need to create conditions …. ". What are we waiting for, we have got the motive and act of self defense and territorial integrity of a nation called lebanon, syria, iran and greater middle east, Pakistan under threat (no territorial integrity is gauranteed Mr. Pervez Musharaff, i hope you will not enter the history books as a fool who believed blindly the americans, your are certainly on your way out there ).

    The Arab league should manauver should emphasize it and should project it as an international power, by drafting resolutions to block shipment of military, economic and food aid to israel through land, air, water. So, should we mobilise non-coperating nations such as jordan and egypt to comply with the resolutions and directives for the interest of preserving territorial integrity and safegaurding its interests. This would certainly give enough time to iran to boot the europeans a bit. With Mr.Blair and Bush busy with conditions dealing with alqaeda, hamas and hezbollah should have tactical advantage on two fronts. Middle-east nations should keep their military personnel on extreme high alert ready to strike the enemy quick and fast simultaneously, U.S bases in iraq and israeli military installations all over. Do not forget tajikistan U.S base.

    Mr.Blair has in the mean time mobilised some of his key personnel to dubai and to iraq for intelligence gathering about iran and syria. Before condi could get into iraq there shall be a situation breif up to her so that she could play the cards properly.

    Shall keep you posted on the situation analyis.

  88. maori | July 19, 2006 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    With Mr. Bush asking condi to make a trip to middle east to sort things out. There are quite a lot of negotiations being carried out across the table with egyptian minister's visit in USA. Situation Analysis is that condi is trying to buy the situation out by involving egyptian negotiators in place. Which would help her as a leaveraging arm. Consider the other angle with french moving in for a negotiation and european foreign affairs minister try to do some damage control. There is little hope from both sides that they do not have any remote control or slightest idea to control hamas and hezbollah. One tactical outcome would be to create situation by involving syria into a military conflict. In washington, this idea is sending chil down the spine of Mr. Bush and Blair. A mess in IRAQ and Mr. Bush wishes to control things. Hezbollah has tactical, strategic and military advantage of its warfare. An alliance with Al-qaeda would make it extremely powerful and there is speculation with in MI5 circles and CIA that with these organization collaborating the situation would explode that it would send ripples in their lands.

    It is indeed a very strategic and tactical move by the arabs declaring that Mideast peace process is "dead". American and international community now will search of a means through the united nations. The same united nations, where in the proposal of qatar was vetoed by the americans and syrian ministers are blocked from free speech. This is an unwelcoming message and hostile act of war against all the middle east nations. With worseneing relations with pakistan and taliban fighting back and capturing 2 towns. The media is downplaying an already scribed defeat. Arab nations and their allies should stand by the strategies, involve in naval blockade based on Arab League and reaction to the veto of resolution against israeli aggression against its territories. More wore by internation conventions and international law, syria is on a tactical advantage of provacative and threat to its national security by flying a military jet f16 just over the Syrian Presidential Palace. Consider a similar scenario, if this happened with Northkoreans flying a jet over White house or Japanese counter parts. It would account to breach to security of state and war is declared over night. According to international law, any act unprovoked by any state, a nation can react as self defense. Thats what syrians should be ready and prepared to do. The americans and british have alot of stakes to loose. This is the oppurtunity arabs should cash in on. We have seen pearl harbours created. Let me repeat the words of the director Mr. TOny Blair " we need to create conditions …. ". What are we waiting for, we have got the motive and act of self defense and territorial integrity of a nation called lebanon, syria, iran and greater middle east, Pakistan under threat (no territorial integrity is gauranteed Mr. Pervez Musharaff, i hope you will not enter the history books as a fool who believed blindly the americans, your are certainly on your way out there ).

    The Arab league should manauver should emphasize it and should project it as an international power, by drafting resolutions to block shipment of military, economic and food aid to israel through land, air, water. So, should we mobilise non-coperating nations such as jordan and egypt to comply with the resolutions and directives for the interest of preserving territorial integrity and safegaurding its interests. This would certainly give enough time to iran to boot the europeans a bit. With Mr.Blair and Bush busy with conditions dealing with alqaeda, hamas and hezbollah should have tactical advantage on two fronts. Middle-east nations should keep their military personnel on extreme high alert ready to strike the enemy quick and fast simultaneously, U.S bases in iraq and israeli military installations all over. Do not forget tajikistan U.S base.

    Mr.Blair has in the mean time mobilised some of his key personnel to dubai and to iraq for intelligence gathering about iran and syria. Before condi could get into iraq there shall be a situation breif up to her so that she could play the cards properly.

    Shall keep you posted on the situation analyis.

  89. Si | July 19, 2006 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    In response to maori:

    I am British, and have lived in this country all my life. I have never lived in fear of a rocket falling from the sky, or of the morning not arriving. I live a relatively easy life, without persecution and generally without fear. I can never appreciate what it must be like to hear the screams of artillery, to see homes demolished and friends and neighbours killed.

    Please understand though, the fight should never be against the British or Americans in the same way it should never be against the Lebanese or the Palestinians or the Iraqis or any other nationality. In the same way that not every Lebanese wants rockets fired into Haifa, not every British person supports Israeli actions. Not every American person wants US troops in Iraq. Attacking an entire people will never yield any good, but only produce more barriers and borders, and distracts from the issue, which is that rockets are flying across the border in both directions killing children and women and men and mothers and fathers and sons and daugters.

    There is propaganda on every side. There are lies and liars who broadcast them from the safety of a London office, or a concrete bunker. There are those who want nothing more than all out war, the final settlement of all sums due.

    The only way to fight this is to stop and realise that every rocket fired is one more step into the long good-night. The only way to fight it is through education and understanding. I have only found this site today, and it is the first site I have found that does not have the western perspective. I come to discuss, to find out, so that I can understand what I can do to help.

    After the bombings in London last year I thought maybe there could be some good. That for a small moment the people of my country would understand the devastation that daily touches the lives of those who live in the middle east. It was not to be. The propaganda machine that runs throughout my small island turned it again into an excuse for more nuclear weapons, for more troops, for more hatred. Everyday those of us who understand a small part of the situation attempt to discuss and paint the full picture. To move people past the idea that everyone in the middle east wants to strap a bomb to themselves and kill white wealthy westerners.

    You made the point that the person with the largest Gun can do what they like in our society. If you replace the word Gun for Money then that is very close to the truth. But this will change, or I will spend my life screaming in the streets, throigh letterboxes and doorways for people to wake up. Please help us though, I learn nothing from attacks and insults on my nationality (though I understand the reasons), but I learn through your words, through the truth that you can pass on through all these miles to a friend in the west.

  90. EddieCanuck | July 19, 2006 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    It's a disturbing image, but the original Anglospheric practice of defamatory messages about the "others" on projectiles goes back a very long way. The most recent manifestations have been racial slurs chalked onto the bombs of departing U.S. strike craft in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's a way for citizens and support-role soldiers to "claim a moral piece of the kill". It's the exact same social gesture as beating the corpse of a lynched negro, collecting the ears of a dead infantryman or starting a street party after the murder of "enemy" civilians. In short, it is a crude expression of hate-motivated vengeance performed with the blessing of the immediate community. The capacity for institutional evil isn't peculiar to Weimar-era Germans. It exists in all of us.
    The soldiers or parents who put the girls up to this need to think about the black mark they've left on these kids' souls.

  91. Rajai | July 19, 2006 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    i cant beleive kids even israelian kids coz i think they have sence same as us ca do WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!!

  92. sadisto | July 19, 2006 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    there is nothing I like to see more than jews and muslims killing each other. will be easier for us later.

  93. Robin | July 19, 2006 at 4:33 am | Permalink

    Joe #164
    You are asking the wrong question. Instead of asking God or Allah you should be asking Yahweh what he would want
    http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story452.html
    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
    http://www.nkusa.org/
    http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

    Besides that, how on earth are you going to change the minds of all the parties? It is one group, no matter where you place them on this earth, who will always feel they are superior to all others. As for my last suggestion in the above post of how we as Americans should suffer in your relocation plan, I suggest that those Americans who must be relocated to accomodate the influx of people who have somehow been drugged into thinking New Jersey and a few more miles down the coast and inland are REALLY the land God promised them, I offer the actual equal for equal method in which the Palestinians were displaced in order to accomodate the Zionists' last major relocation plot http://www.alnakba.org/ You see Joe, we here in the US have NO CLUE the hatred spewed at the Palestinians by the Zionists from DAY ONE. This picture above is absolutely not surprising to me at all. These children are being told a lie, that these missiles are aimed only at Nasrallah, but actually, if a few miss and kill innocent civilians, that's ok too because Arabs are but "mere donkeys of men" who are the lowest of the low. You wonder why your plan is but a mere pipe dream, go ask any Zionist and he will tell you why. It is really nice of you to offer up a piece of one of America's coastal communities though. What law are you going to use to get those people to move? Emminant Domain? Let's just see how many Americans would fathom for a minute to put themselves in that place.
    In solidarity with Palestine and the peoples of Lebanon.

  94. Muslimah | July 19, 2006 at 4:34 am | Permalink

    Joe Rufo, I find it hard to believe that America would actually give it's own peace of land to make such a thing as "peace" in the middle east possible. If they are dessperately trying to get rid of immigrants (fellow Mexicans), then how can they accept a whole country to live within? That would be double the Immigrants they would like to kick out?
    …Just wondering!

  95. Philip | July 19, 2006 at 4:40 am | Permalink

    If anyone wants the truth and not just emotionally hyped propaganda about these photos, I recommend clicking this link to Sanmonkey's blog.

  96. Muslimah | July 19, 2006 at 4:51 am | Permalink

    What an amusing link you shared Philp,and what an explanation given by who? A zionist supporter?
    A quote from the site:
    -
    "My other blog
    Support the Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist Christian Imperialist Conspiracy in the Middle-east!"
    -
    a monkey indeed!

  97. Sam | July 19, 2006 at 5:07 am | Permalink

    Hold it people, how Israel was created by terrorists from the Stern and Hagana gangs, they terrorized the entire region…now this terror organization is the democratic state of Israel. think about.it. It is hard to believe that the Arabs made mistake after mistake since 1948…Israel is pure and honest to the world and depict the arabs as blood thirsty…Hizballah and Hamas are doing the same but on their land….that is resistance. No man will accept occupation,Europe fought Hitler, Algeria fought the Fench, India fought the British… and we are fighting in the same manner.

  98. John Carrol | July 19, 2006 at 5:43 am | Permalink

    Its interesting how people have read their own world view into their interpretations of the photo. The text is quite clear - the writing is directed as Nasrallah and Hezbollah, not children, Still, if you are consumed with hate and teach your own children to hate, its easy to imagine it otherwise.

    What is amazing is that Hezbollah has hijacked an entire country (Lebanon) - its more fantastic (and macabre) than even a James Bond film! Who would have believed that a foreign private army could have built up such an arsenal. By deliberately embedding 12,000 (according to Nasrallah) missiles amongst a civilian population Hezbollah holds them as hostages. The goal (as in Gaza) appears to be to provoke an attack by Isreal and radicalize the population.

    As a Canadian I grieve for the recent deaths of Canadian citizens in this conflict, but I've read that Nasrallah claims that their house was bombed due to "false intelligence" -how could he have known that unless his people supplied the information - which makes him responsible.

    To be blunt - while I feel sorry for the Palestinean people but they've been victimized by their leadership far more than by the Israelis. They should stop spending their money on missiles and spend it instead on building a viable civilian infrastructure. The intifadeh has been a miserable failure - its time for a change.

  99. gasmonso | July 19, 2006 at 6:27 am | Permalink

    Oh don't act so shocked and disgusted by this. I don't see people horrified when some Palestinian suicide bomber blows himself and 20 civilians up on a bus or in front of a restaurant. Gimme a break. At least the Israelis are targeting the military wheras the Palestinians are solely targeting civilians.

  100. kimmy | July 19, 2006 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    We in here in the west hear about how Iran supplies Hezbollah with missles.
    What about how the US supplies the Israelis with tanks, jets, missles, and everything else?
    The Gaza has been occupied for 40 years and Israel doesn't care. They steal lands for their settlements.
    Israel will be a larger country because they steal lands from the Palestinians.

  101. Philip | July 19, 2006 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Muslimah,
    He is an Egyptian Arab (and Muslim). His statement is "snarky," i.e. smart-assed and cynical! He just doesn't find it necessary to follow the herd, so to speak. The description if his other blog and of himself is sarcastic and intended to ruffle the feathers of detractors. In his blog he criticized the "decorating" of the artillery. But in the interest of accuracy, he contacted someone who would be able to verify the reliability of the photos. This being done, he found that they were egged on by some of the TWELVE photographers there to write a little message to Nasrallah (as opposed to the children of Lebanon, which is not only the words, but the intention, hint hint).
    Besides, it is common practice to write a message to the "bad guy" on artillery. Big flippin' deal. And Nasrallah is a bad guy, like it or not. Love or hate Israel, he is a monster. My only issue is that children should not have had access to that weaponry. An Israeli on Sandmonkey's blog pointed out that whoever was in charge of that post will likely be in deep doo-doo.
    Images by photojournalists can be manipulated to serve all kinds of purposes. "A picture is worth 1000 words." The problem is, those words are very much open to (mis)interpretation. Those words can be written to mean many different things, depending on who is using the photo. Frankly, the meaning in the photo is irrelevant based on 3 things:
    1) It was more or less staged.
    2) What side of the conflict you are on may easily dictate your feelings about the message.
    3) The photo can be extrapolated to mean something that it never could logically mean, as in the quote below:

    Hate, disgust, extreme?. I don?t know what word can describe these photos. And they say that we are teaching our kids hate to Israelis! ?The above message is imaginary. It is not what I see written on the bombs (although it might be written on some but we can?t see), it is just what this entire thing means. The girls might be signing the bombs to be send to Nasrallah and Hezbollah, but the bomb are falling on civilian heads, not Nasrallh!

    Photos are not reality, but tools to paint the artist's ideas. And like all art, they are subject to many interpretations, mostly erroneous ones.

  102. tanaya | July 19, 2006 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    let's remove Israel from the map of the world. There'll be no country names with Israel again.

  103. echo | July 19, 2006 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    how Israel was created by terrorists from child and their generations. it's true babaric country must be deleted form world map. so our world become in peace

  104. antonio | July 19, 2006 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Those photos should all make the front pages of the NY Times, they are powerful and profoundly disturbing. This is a letter I wrote to the editor of the SF chronicle.

    Editor,
    I am writing in response to Mr Weiner's published letter regarding the war
    in the middle east, in particular, his statement that "unlike the Israeli
    air force's efforts, no early-warning pamphlets drop from the sky to tell
    Israeli civilians to protect themselves". Such statements lead us to believe
    that Israel is leading a moral and clean war while it's enemies are
    resorting to dirty tactics which target the civilian population. In fact of
    the 24 Israelis who have died 12 are civilians while over 200 hundred
    civilians have died in Lebanon many of them women and children escaping
    after Israels so called "warnings". Hezbollah are firing crude often
    innefective rockets while Israel are using sophisticated and lethal weaponry
    and targeting large civilian urban areas. The conflict started with the
    kidnapping of 2 Israeli soldiers while thousands of Palestinians and
    Lebanese rot in Israeli jails. Irsaels response is collective punishment of
    innocent women and children. Yet Mr Weiner would have us believe that
    Isrealis have sustained the brunt of the suffering when the opposite is
    true. In this conflict, 20 Lebanese civilians killed for evey one Isreali
    civilian casualty.
    I ask Mr Weiner, are Arab lives less precious?

    Antonio Muto-Isolani MD

  105. Colin | July 19, 2006 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    My heart is brocken.

  106. Ali | July 19, 2006 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Many of the posts here are tragic. I am Jewish and I am disgusted by these images. Children should never learn that war is a game and that weapons of war are a means to convey a message. Still as many of the posts here demonstrate the level of anti-Jewish hatred in the eyes, minds and hearts of people like Eddie, Robin, and Mori is astounding. I will make no comparison to the Palestinian children taught to dress as suicide bombers. They are vistims of a society that places pride before life. But lets get our facts straight. 800,000 Jews left the arab/Muslim world to help "establish" israel (including my grandparents). 600,000 Arabs were left without a homeland after their leaders chose to make war rather than live in peace with their Jewish neighbors. Today, the state of Israel with near 6,000,000 Jews exists. How do we respect the human rights of all involved? Not by insisting that the Jews allow themselves to be murdered by monsters like nasrallah, Rantisi and Arafat!

  107. Voice of Conscience | July 19, 2006 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    DEATH TOLL:

    Israeli Army: 12
    Israeli civilians: 13
    HISBULAH fighters: 5 (but seriously, it almost looks like IDF is actually trying to miss the hisbolah fighters!!)
    *****************************
    Lebanese civilians > 220 !!
    *****************************

    these stats speak for themselves!

    It shouldn't matter if a terrorist is using a knife or an american-made F-16 or Howitzer, however the zionist-owned Fox, Time, NY Times, CBS, ABC, and countless others that decide the american public opinion on behalf of them, would tell you otherwise.
    (read: http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/)

    Israel is simply preparing the U.S to do its bidding again in Syria and Iran, like it sent the americans to die in Iraq on its behalf (who was the ONLY beneficiary from the war on Iraq? Israel and only Israel who got rid of its main rival in the middle east, and certainly it didn't America nor the Iraqis)

    —————————————————
    AMERICA - WAKE UP AND SMELL THE STINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    —————————————————

    STOP CIVILIAN BOMBING NOW!
    —————————————————

    ALL CHILDREN KILLERS AND THEIR ADVOCATES SHALT DESERVINGLY GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!

  108. alia | July 19, 2006 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    I just dont know what's in their heart……….what their heart are made from?….There are no "peaceful" word in israeli's' heart….only "destroy/killed all man kind that are different from them" that are exist in their head and heart..
    Just see those picture…..what if your children die like that?…

  109. Ali | July 19, 2006 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    I don't think Islam, the religion, is the source of conflict as Izzy suggests. I think the issue has less to do with religion (or philosophy as Samuel clarifies) and more to do with simple economics and politics. Religion is used to galvanize forces into action, but it is rarely the fundamental rationale for why those people are fighting. Such is the case in Palestine and Kashmir as much as it is in Sri Lanka or Colombia where you have Tamils fighting Hindus and Marxist Christians fighting Capitalist Christians.

  110. Baraa Abd El Badia | July 19, 2006 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Zionists are the ones who introduced terrorism in the Middle East. Jews escaping in the XVth century from catholic Spain were welcomed in Palestine (even if the majority prefered to settle in the Capital city of Istanbul rather than in the very at that time "provincial" cities of Jerusalem or Safad). But some did without any problems from local christian, samaritan or muslim Palestinians. But terror came when zionists decided to create through terror a "purified ethnical Jewish State" in Palestine and extend it without limits (Golan, Iraq, etc.). And they put then more and more Palestinians (and now Lebanese) in despair. Did you ever think what amount of despair, courage, hate, (and foolishness !), it needs to decide to "suicide" just to kill with you colonists of the land of your mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters ? "suicide" bombers are people who are despaired because occupiers took all what they had on earth when "international community" do not react to that. So, there seems then to you, you have no other choice than die and take with you the more having happy and pecefull life colonists you can "to hell". Why the Jews from Warsaw ghetto decided to "suicide" in the obviously going to be defeated uprising ? Why the Jewish fighters bombed the occupied Warsaw German cafe-club with all these german children and wifes drinking coffee or lemonade ? Why the Polish underground resistance put bomb in the "civilian" trains at the Berlin Friedrichstrasse Railway station in 1942 ? If you understand that, then you understand Palestinians and Lebanese or now Iraqis. Some of them became fool. But who is responsible for that ? The Zionist "psychiatrists" !!!! The zionist nazi like ethnical racism. The day Jews in Palestine will free themselves from zionism and accept this land will be a common State for all semitic and Abrahamic nations, they will be even allowed to prey in and around the Solomon's rebuilt already temple : the Golden dome mosque (as they could in the XVth century). And they will have the right to vote in the new Palestinian State. And the Zionists will be allowed to escape and build their "pure" ethnical State somewhere in America ! Somewhere between Mormon Utah, Alaskan white deserts, the forests of Maine, South Baptist coalition territories or Bush's Texas ranch. There's plenty of free land there (because tough financial policies already destroyed little peasants settlements).

  111. Shafu | July 19, 2006 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    O Jews ! You can kill all the Muslim People you like ! But there will come a time when we Muslims by the help of ALLAH the Almighty will defeat you and reconquer our pride.
    There will come a time when Mahdi and Jesus will rise. O we will eliminate this Jewish race . You can run but u cannot hide. So fear that day !!!!!!!!
    I know you people have this fear in your blackened hearts !!!!!

  112. Chaunoi | July 19, 2006 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Oh my gosh! This is so sad! What have we created?? May God forgive us all! The time is coming!

  113. One Palestine | July 19, 2006 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    What do you do to a man who:
    becomes a militant fundamentalist,
    arms himself against anyone who opposes his views,
    forces people to flee their homes,
    aids in illegal immigration,
    and acquires weapons and strategic alliances, advanced jet fighters and nuclear power in the advancement of his goals?

    First:
    You award him a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Next:
    You build a peace center which honours him by carrying his peaceful image even further into the record books.

    Indeed, with role models of this sort, you build a mighty nation, one within which even the children disregard the realities of their actions in favor of a nationalist cause.

    The name of this brave and upstanding man, this 'dove' amongst 'hawks'?

    Shimon Peres
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres
    http://www.peres-center.org/

    Let us emulate this man.
    His message:
    Forget the over 200 Lebanese and every Palestinian civilian murdered by our actions. They are of no consequence.

    History is indeed written by the victor.

  114. From The Alamo | July 19, 2006 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    We are all being manipulated by the powerful elite of this world.Until the decent people of this world stand together as one, against the fudelist ideal?s of the Illumanati. It will continue.The plan is to destroy 90% of the human population.So the rich and powerful may have a genises.Devided by prejidice we have no chance it is what they want.They have concentration camps built for us in The U.S. Im sure im headed there one day we brought civil suit against Bush Basicly naming him a traitor. So Im sure they have my name.Hezbollah,The Taliban,Masad,MI5,CIA,shadow government?s all work for the same master?s The leaders of The U.N. and there job is is to kill you.Cowboy up Shafu there over there not over there

  115. Terry | July 19, 2006 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    No way these pictures (The top 3) are real!!!! It is a false & vicious anti Israeli propaganda. Please don't belive it. It is so refuted and tendentious, I swear to god.

  116. From The Alamo | July 19, 2006 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Here's some useful links
    http://www.infowars.com/articles/ww3/leftists_protest_israel_aggression.htm
    http://www.wrmea.com/archives/April_2005/0504018.html
    http://www.martiallaw911.info/

  117. maori | July 19, 2006 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2006%20News%20Archives/July/17%20n/American%20family%20brutally%20assaulted%20at%20Israeli%20checkpoint%20The%20tragic%20Story%20of%20Tina%20and%20Michael%20Hannouneh.htm

  118. kuyie | July 19, 2006 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    im with shafu! that is so so true, the jews(zionist) is so so afraid, they peeing in their pants! the jews is the choosen race by Allah, of their ignorance, the only that had not punish yet! THEIR TIME WILL COME! no tree or stone will help you on that day! but if they prefer to wait, let them enjoy all they can now. ALLAHUAKBAR!

  119. From The Alamo | July 19, 2006 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Zionist=Illumnati=Nazis=Satan
    not Jews is a religion of the one God
    Muslims=Christian=Budist=Judaism=Peace
    See Illumnati http://www.lonelantern.org/illuminati1.html
    If you beleive in death then you worship the king of lies.

  120. From The Alamo | July 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Also see China http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/170406China.htm

  121. From The Alamo | July 19, 2006 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    also see China http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/170406China.htm

  122. AJ | July 19, 2006 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Just for Carla from LEB: i read ur first sentence and all i can say is that: I DONT EXPECT U TO UNDERSTAND!
    Although some ppl sittin much further away from LEB do.
    Its really shameful that u carry the lebanese nationality and u put Hizballah & Israel in the same level!
    It couldnt Be more pathetic.

  123. From The Alamo | July 19, 2006 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    I don't know what to say as an American except my government is imprisoning and killig us and our children while our furer destroys our credabilty throughout the world.

  124. Tomi Lindgren | July 19, 2006 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Poor kids… but they don't know it better.
    Indoctrination into archaic religions and military - the root of all evil!

    Peace to all!
    Tomi

  125. Q | July 19, 2006 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    what do u expect from a purely racist category of people such as the bloody israili zionists???

  126. Little Br? | July 19, 2006 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    ARTIST: Rodgers and Hammerstein
    TITLE: You've Got to Be Carefully Taught (from "South Pacific")

    You've got to be taught to hate and fear
    You've got to be taught from year to year
    It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear
    You've got to be carefully taught

    You've got to be taught to be afraid
    Of people whose eyes are oddly made
    And people whose skin is a different shade
    You've got to be carefully taught

    You've got to be taught before it's too late
    Before you are six or seven or eight
    To hate all the people your relatives hate
    You've got to be carefully taught
    You've got to be carefully taught

  127. PROUD TO BE LEBANESE | July 19, 2006 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    let's think for a second, why would palestinians or lebanese or any other arab country for that matter would want to hit israel?

    did israel kick people out of their land? YES
    did israel respect human rights? NO
    does israel have the right to abuse? NO
    did israel torture individuals and families? OF COURSE YES

    am not gonna go on and on, we all know that israel is a PEST in the middle east. it doesnt belong there, it's like having cancer in your body, and israel is cancer to the middle east.

    am not being anti-semitic in any way, i am not against jews, am against israeli agression. to those who said that israelis are the chosen people of god, you are mistaken, why would god want his chosen people to suffer that much (I DONT PITTY YOU AT ALL, I ONLY PITTY YOU FOR BEING SO DAMN MEAN) everyone are god's children, stop being so stuck up and it's about time to stop having the FOLIE DES GRANDEURS.

    please visit http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org and check what ISRAELIS are doing.

    Reply - http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org and check what ISRAELIS are doing.'); return false;">Quote
  128. intikam | July 19, 2006 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    to imianduru
    go to hell with israel !!!!
    i think that you are a jewish , no a zionist
    the only men are hizbollah nowadays , no body fight yahud !!!except those heros

  129. intikam | July 19, 2006 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    to carla
    sorry, but allah is grandiose than all, and muslims will finnaly win and keep the peace in EArth, it is written in our holy coran , it's a reality,
    to die in fighting ennemies of allah and muslims is a billion time better than live as monkey under their reign

  130. intikam | July 19, 2006 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    to silvia

    go to hell !!!!

    you are the real terrorist , not your place here , !!!

  131. Ethemcan | July 19, 2006 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Dear all,

    It is such disgusting to see both kids writing messages on artillery (whatever the target is we always know that it is the civilians, kids, mothers who die in wars..don't we?) and kids(even some with mental handicap) who wore bombs on them to detonate them at a checkpoint. It is the very fact that the support for occupation is neverending in israel, the support for the discrimination wall that turns the life of palestinians into an open air prison is no recent news as well. This time Lebanon is tried to be turned into a n open air prison for the Lebanese, time to open our eyes friends, no self-defence can be meant to bomb international roads and international airports, no self-defense can be meant to besiege a country from all possible ports of entry. I believe the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign country in Mid. East however respecting the borders of 1967 and finally accepting the fact that they HAVE to co-exist with their neighbours and grant the palestinians the very right of independence which they proudly proclaim for themselves.

    With greetings from Turkey to all Mid. East,
    May peace -first- prevail in Mid. East

  132. Ali | July 19, 2006 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    I am living in the west bank, I AM NOT SHOCKED
    But i feel sorry for those kids.
    if they do this to there own kids, what kind of people we are dealing with????

  133. Philip | July 19, 2006 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    The photos were SET UP. They have NO MEANING. Get over it. My previous posts (192 & 203) spell this out.
    But then, the well of ant-semitism has burst, and nothing, not even reason (especially NOT reason), can stop the flood.
    Shafu states:

    There will come a time when Mahdi and Jesus will rise. O we will eliminate this Jewish race.

    Jesus (a Jew) will not eliminate the Jews. Wouldn't that make him suicidal? Please. Your bigotry is charming and, all, really it is, but?
    Ah, never mind.

  134. jesus christ | July 19, 2006 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    These children can't spell.

  135. Israel's Right, Not Islam's Death | July 19, 2006 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Israel does not want the death of any non-combatant citizen of any nation. Israel respects the right for all other countries to exist, including the right for the Palestinians to have their own borders (which have constantly been under negotiation yet blockaded by Palestinian militants, and in one case by an Orthodox Jew). Yet, the nations that surround Israel do not agree with Israel's placement in the world. Although the Jews have had a history in the region, the Arab and Muslim world (Iran is not Arab), says that the territory is fully Muslim, and cannot be controlled by Jews or any other people other than Muslims. (THIS RACISM IS KILLING ME!)
    These Muslim nations are not ultimately concerned with the well being of their own citizens, let alone of a nation of people far removed from them. They are, and you can ask them and find quotes, interested in the final eradication of the state of Israel.
    It is sad to think that these Israeli girls would write love letters to dying children, however, from the picture and a few other comments, I myself noticed a line in the 2nd and 3rd pictures that says: "…Nazrala with love."
    Nasrallah is the leader of the Hezbollah, which is recognized by the UN as a terrorist organization.

    If we all pray for peace we can have peace. But if one half of the party crosses his fingers and is bent on the ultimate elimination of a non-Muslim from the Middle east, then we can have no peace.

  136. bigger than HIP HOP | July 19, 2006 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    no one in this modern age will ever win any peace through bombing, military aggression, bullets, occupation, insurgency, kidnapping, or any confrontational action of any kind. The only victory possible in that situation is to kill every single individual you consider youre enemy, man, woman and child. This has not been accepted since the time of Genghis Khan and is unlikely ever again to happen. In all the conflicts that have been solved or are in the final stages of being solved, (ie northern ireland, colonised india or colonised africa) violence only led to more suffering and violence, stalemate positions and extremism, only when the ordinary people of these states no longer accepted the ever deepening endless cycle of violence was there progress.
    At some stage all the aggrieved must draw a line under their pain and suffering and become invested in peace, justice and reconciliation, with the promise of a prosperous and peaceful future.
    surely all people regardless of their age, race, colour of skin, religion, gender, beliefs or way of life deserve a life free from strife?

  137. American | July 19, 2006 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    The picture on the bottom is older than the ones above. You created great fiction. Plus, if you can read, the kids are writing good luck messages to the defesne forces.

  138. Robin | July 19, 2006 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    I would like to interject a very important distinction in the vocabulary being used here. To Ali, who insists I am being bigoted against Jews. I would very much appreciate it if people could once and for all make the CLEAR distinction between the Judaic faith and the political movement of Zionism. The two are NOT the same. For anyone to continue to try to paint those of us who stand against Zionist aggression with being Anti-Semitic, you are very much trying to manipulate an arguement to your advantage. A person can be a Zionist and not be Jewish whatsover. The major binding philosophy of ALL Zionists, be they Jewish or CHRISTIAN Zionists is that the land of Israel, as proclaimed in the Torah, was given to and should in perpitude be a Jewish state. That is VERY different from MANY Jews who believe that the state of Israel has been FORCED by man to fulfill a prophesy at the inhumane cost to others who have been displaced. So, once and for all, I am asking for people such as Ali to stop insisting that people such as myself and others have hatred towards Jews because of their faith. I can only speak for myself when I say that it is NOT the Jewish faith, it is the ZIONISTS which engage my rage. For ANYONE to set up a state exclusively for one religion which ousts MILLIONS of others from it's boundaries and continues in it's aggression towards it neighbors, THAT!! is what I am against.

  139. carl ippolito | July 19, 2006 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    My only prayer is that Iran and Syria will come to the Aid of Lebanon…..Carl

  140. Ronen | July 19, 2006 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    This is chip Demagogue to say this.
    On the Shell it write "Hezbollah with Love…" & in Hebrew "I was waiting for this…"
    No where it say anything about kids.

    True, this is terribly said to see innocent people specially children dieing (as any sound an normal person fill),
    My hart goes out to him and his parent (being a father…I know how lucky you are to have a healthy child and how hard it is to grow them)

    However, be fair ,Hezbollah has been doing this for years and all they do is targeting the Civil population in Israel.

    I honestly believe with all my hart that Israel do try to avoid the death of innocent people.

    Do you think that it is problematic (military wise) to wipe off Beirut ? well it is not.
    Why is it not done ? - because unlike Hezbollah ,Israel is trying to avoid the death of innocent people.

    Why do Israel bother to ask civilians to leave their house as it will be targeted shortly ?
    and on the same note why do Hezbollah shout from civil area and houses (you probably show the pictures in the TV showing how they do that)

    As I am witting this answer 2 children died in Nazareth by Hezbollah.

  141. WeeDo | July 19, 2006 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    i dont beleive what im reading i dont beleive what i see they are just i kids??
    and in my own word FUCK U isreal u are a shit and hezbolaah wsayed hassan is leader for all muslims??and i wish from GOD to take my from soul and my life and give to fight those isreal people.
    DIE IN HILL ISREAL KIDS

  142. Israeli | July 19, 2006 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Sabbah: "Occupation is the root of evil in this part of the world. So, just a small reminder: ?Get the hell out of my homeland and live in peace.?"

    Actually I completely agree. And indeed Israel got out of Lebanon 6 years ago - yet Hizbollah continues to provoke fighting in this region whenever it suits its Iranian/Syrian operators. What should Israel do about it? What would Egypt do in the same situation?

    As a personal note, I've been reading your blog for some time and had respect for you. I have lost most of it after seeing the way you chose to spread these lies. You know as well as I do these are not messages to Arab children, but to Nassrallah.

    What are we left with? Hate-filled fools, most of whom never been to the Mideast in their lives, stain your blog comments with their ugly racism. Are we to continue fighting for another 100 years, to the pervese satisfaction of the fanatics, racists and general lunatics of this world?

  143. WeeDo | July 19, 2006 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    im a muslim and im lebanese and i wish for every isreal man and women & kids to die in hill cz i see my country my family is dying infront of my eyes and i cant do any thing and im very happy to see thak isreal people is dying like arab people is dying?even if u see z history u ill see that there is no exict for isreal there is no country name isreal they kill our people and our contry to make there own countries.
    and in z end they are a peace of shit they are nothing and trust me they will die in z end and we will win our life and our country cz we are strong and we beleive in GOD.
    and my last word for them…………?
    DIE IN HILL…………

  144. WeeDo/HANEEN | July 19, 2006 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    DIE IN HILLLL????

  145. Reema | July 19, 2006 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    ????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??????? ?? ????? ????????? ???? ???????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ????????? ???? ????????? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ????? ?? ????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ????? ???? ???????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ????????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?? ?? ???? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ??? ?????? ???? ……..

  146. DoDo | July 19, 2006 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    just one world for ISREAL {FUCK YOU ALL)
    palestine will always be first KHAWA .. god bless all palestinian ppl every where in this world..
    we will win for sure and return to our land that belongs to us not to isreal ! fuck u isreal , and fuck bush and sharoon and everyone who helps isreal to damage our beloved land !! VIVA LA PALESTINE .. and fuck those kids !! damn it they're not kids ! they r kids of the devil !!! BURN IN HELL ISREAL .. we will return soon ;)

  147. Kramit | July 19, 2006 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    When will you learn? There is no reason to blow each other to pieces, its got the point of it being nobodies fault and both sides are in the wrong and are fighting on the grounds of religion. Wich is complete B/S christianity judasium and islam all worship the same god, just in a differnet way. None of you are right and none of you are wrong as the basis for your belifs are all based around the same mellenia+ old books that have no concrete fact.

    Face it, you cannot prove if you are right or wrong and you will find out if you were right when you are dead. All that is happening is that you are getting there faster.

  148. Yasamin Beitollahi | July 19, 2006 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    "Children have never been very good at listening to their elders, but they have never failed to imitate them." -James Baldwin
    Hatred begets more hatred..

  149. der stile | July 19, 2006 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    es ist h?te zeit, dass man den israelis ihren holocaust rabatt wegnimmt. die sind j?r geworden, mit noch gr?rer brutalit? als damals die deutschen.

  150. Marty | July 19, 2006 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    I don't know how about you guys…But on the third picture -I able to read:"To Nazrallah with Love"…Can any body show me the "…Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians - Kids, Die with love."

    Thanks,
    Marty

  151. Greg | July 19, 2006 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    So where are the pictures condemning the repetitive, intentional targeting of Israeli civilians by Hezbollah and Hamas and their supporters Syria and Iran? Where are the pictures of dead Israeli children and the destruction of suicide bombers? Do you also condemn the rocket and missile attacks on Israel that are intentionally launched from civilian areas in order to incur international condemnation on any Israeli response? The blame for these tragic Lebanese civilian deaths can easily be attributed to Hezbollah.

  152. der stile | July 19, 2006 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    es wird h?te zeit, dass man den israelis ihren holocaust rabatt wegnimmt. die sind zu brutalen j?r geworden, noch schlimmer als damals die deutschen.
    translate in google:
    it becomes high time that one takes their from the Israelis away holocaust discount. those are become brutal hunter, still more badly than at that time the Germans.

  153. Kaplos | July 19, 2006 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    ??????! ??? ?? ???? ???????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ????? ??? ???????"Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians - Kids,Die with love.Yours,Israeli Kids" ??? ???????? ?????…? ??? ???????? ???. ????? ????? ??? ?????????; ???? ???, ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????? ??? ??????? - ?????? ??? ????! ?????? ???????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????. ?????! ?? ???-? ??? ??????????? ???????? ?????????! ???????, ??????? ???????! =============================== ???? ?????? ???? ????????!!!

  154. fritz gmx | July 19, 2006 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    zenur?

  155. Silversmith | July 19, 2006 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    I'm not sure what to say - to either side - here. There are many in America - NOT ALL of us, not even most people - but still, a significant number of people who say, "The Jews and the Arabs are not wise enough, not intelligent enough, and are so selfish that both sides will NEVER agree to any kind of peace. Therefore, why don't we simply nuke ALL of them, turn the desert into a giant sheet of glass, and be done with BOTH sides of idiots." For those of you who insist YOUR side is ALWAYS right; that it was always "THEM" who started any conflict; that "WE" were always the ones who "owned" the land that makes up the Middle East… a few facts.
    1) NEITHER the Jews OR the Arabs, Muslims OR Christians were the first dwellers of the area in which this conflict was going on. When looking at FACTUAL history, you CANNOT use religious texts to support your argument. And the facts, found in the archeology of the region, say that people whom Christians, Muslims, AND Jews might consider "heathens" were the first occupiers of those lands. Judaism came later, then Christianity, and then Islam. So, just as in America, when people say, "WE ought to make EVERYONE speak the original language of this country," and I laugh - because the "original" language of America is any one of a number of aboriginal/native languages like Sioux, Cherokee, Lakota, etc. - so too is it the case when those who live in the Middle East say, "Everyone except the descendants of the ORIGINAL settlers on this land needs to leave." OK. When shall we ship out ALL the Jews, Christians, and Muslims? The past is the past. Deal with it, let it go, apologize when you SHOULD, build for the future.
    2) Children should NOT be taught to write messages of hate on bombs. It doesn't matter WHOM you are writing the words to; CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT TO HATE. It is only a matter of "media control" - through word of mouth, pictures, television, movies, radio, and the Internet - to change the direction of someone's hate. Goebels did it in Germany, before WWII, and Karl Rove has tried to do it in America recently. Unfortunately, MOST people - Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike - are sheep-like, and will go where they are pushed. Teaching them HATE when they are young only makes it easier for someone else to make your children do their dirty work later.
    3) Finally, if you want to "win" - to be free - why continue to fight in such a way where NO ONE wins? Most terrorists are idiots! Why bomb a bus? Or a train? Why kill civilians, on either side? Their death WILL NOT get you what you want! You want results? Concentrate ALL your negative energy on the wealthy and the highest level political leaders, EXCLUSIVELY. Nothing else will get you the results you want. The poor have no control - so whether you are a militia, or a government, why go after the civilians?!! The rich and the super-powerful individuals are the ONLY people you should be influencing. One way to do that? Stop fighting, become rich yourself - and then buy out the people you hate. Make them your slaves, if you must. Only realize, if they are smart, they will try to do the same to you. It's a kind of war, but one where you can survive to gloat over your opponents.
    Please - all of you. Get smart. Or the idiots in America may end up following through on what SOME of them would like. And then ALL sides - Muslim, Jew, and Christian - all lose.
    Figure…It…Out.

  156. Haitham | July 19, 2006 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Israeli,

    I don't know what lies you are talking about. These photos are real, I didn't make them. Any blind can see the girls signing the shells, and for your info, if you didn't know, these shells killed more than 300 civilians out there.

    As for the few people how can't read well, sorry, I can't help you. But I said clearly, the message above is not what one can see written, although it might be written somewhere, but we can see it by looking at the dead bodies.

    Greg,

    No, I'll disappoint you. I'm not happy to see the rockets falling on Israel (and now Arab) and Palestinians. However, I expect the same.

    Guys, you have to understand something. If you have the right to defend yourself, same do others. If you decide that the kids of Gaza and Lebanon should not sleep, you should accept the same. Why do some brainless oversight the origin of all this? It is called OCCUATION. And FYI, OCCUPATION=Israel. End the occupation, return the land and the people, and live in peace. Calling people terrorist will not help you. Call them whatever you like, they will just hate you more, but they will never give-up. Generation after generation, they will be fighting for their rights.

  157. 3arabiyah | July 19, 2006 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Never to believe that once will be a true peace with those people who were raised to hate other people, Never to believe that they are victim bec ppl with this kind of soul are always murderers ….with the the bottom of my heart iam with you lebanesse with the bottom of my heart i love you NASR-ALLAH….and may God will protect you and lead you to the victory that our souls have been eagering to, since decades

  158. "L" | July 19, 2006 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Wut type of hate do you teach your kids? are those the moral norms and values u follow ? or is it just ur sick (miss used) religion ? If i were God, i'd blow up those Katyoshas in their faces and make Land around them a burning flame of hell. since hell will be their home sweet home in the next coming world anyway. U think they throw rockets on Hizballah soldiers? is this why we hear alot of them get killed? please ur ignorant. Ur stupid mother fuckers with Guns. that's all. and we'll BRING U DOWN…..we'll bring u down ladies ;) MWA

  159. muhannad | July 19, 2006 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    woooooow,damn n the world says we kill the israeli kids well i say the hell with them all…

  160. palestinian body & soul | July 19, 2006 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    what to say?
    no matter what the written words on the rocket were,mainly the object is,they are having fun drawing on a killing body,is it innocent somewhere?and if yes,can anyone tell ???
    no one has to see the claimed gift to judge ,its more than enough watching lebanese and palestinians sad features in the above posted pictures,if their hopeless helpless scrimes didnt reach your feelings ,then just remove the (human)expression from your body dictionary

    talking about love and peace?negotiating stollen land?arguing about others homes,,,???obviously its immoral,,
    those nationless traditionless are talking now about their rights in our land
    no word can describe their shamefull behaviour,killing innocents for no reason and claiming god is with them,,,i bet the god they are talking about is not ours ,they created him to satistfy their needs

    kids of lebanon and palestine
    may god bless you ,keep hoping and dreaming
    your tiny bodies your frightened nights,your sadness and tears will reach every heart
    god bless you

  161. "L" | July 19, 2006 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    check this site people
    http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/

  162. Israeli | July 19, 2006 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    The lie I'm talking about is this:

    "Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians - Kids, Die with love."

    The truth is the writings are directed at Nassrallah, who launches ~150 rockets a day at these kids and in his speeches promise to bring their death together with the rest of Israelis. Nassrallah, not Lebanese children.

    It still doesn't make it a good idea, but the meaning is completely different. And if we talk of educating children for hatred, this is patently an Arab invention - in schoolbooks and in photos like this: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/babybomber.htm

    Regarding occupation: Israel does not occupy one inch of Lebanon since 2000, yet Hizbollah continues to attack it whenever it sees fit. Israel has withdrew from Gaza Strip a year ago, and then reelected a government whose main goal is to withdraw from the West Bank. The Palestinians reacted by electing Hamas for government and shooting Kassam missiles at Israeli towns.

    In light of these events (not to mention the comments above) it's becoming obvious that most Arabs simply will not accept Israel's existance in any borders.

    Here's a question to you and all comment posters: would you accept Israel's existance in the Middle East at all or not? At which borders?

  163. Christoph | July 19, 2006 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    I am stunned. Only that parents would allow this not that little kids would think nothing of it. I have no problem with Israel's actions as a nation. Lebanon lost control of their own country to Hezbolla, this is sad and traggic but, it is true. The Labenese Government could not disarm or control them and now Israel must. Anyone who pays any attention knows that people die when we make war upon one another. Explosives make human bodies very messy and nearly unrecognizable but, Kaytusha rockets would have the same end result. These pictures are for heart string, gut reactions (which is needed on one level) but, this violence has gone on for many, many years and someday it must end, if one horrific slaughter will stop it so be it. It won't though, not enough will happen, the world will cry for a cease fire and as a result this will start again in a few years. Simply sad..

  164. Haitham | July 19, 2006 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    Israeli,

    First, I did not lie. If you read all the post, you will know I didn't.

    Second, stop justifying killing civilians. You are not better than those shelling Palestine and Lebanon.

    Third, yes, I accept a Jewish state within the borders of 1967. Nothing less, nothing more.

    The question is: When will you withdraw? Another 50 years?

  165. Muslimah | July 20, 2006 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Just a comment on Philip's post #245

    " Jesus (a Jew) will not eliminate the Jews. Wouldn?t that make him suicidal? Please"
    -
    Jesus as far as I can remember was not a Jew. It was the Jews who wanted to kill him just like they did with the prophets sent by Allah before him. The Jews were always the non-believers and indeed if you believe in your religion you know that Jesus will be resurrested once more on the day of judgemnet to be the witness of the demnation of the Jewish people.
    -
    Jesus a Jew? and yet he spread the word of the Bible? The book of the Christian faith? I'm just a bit baffled by your comment there.
    -
    Also, how are these photos a "set up"? By revealing the truth? or is it just hard to grasp in the reality that there are 'terrorists' other than Muslims? (As Mr. Bush kindly refered us to be, and know the whole west along with him…)

  166. sara | July 20, 2006 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    Israeli,
    What you are saying is very wired, you've been brain washed… simply brain washed just like the kids in the picture who are being tought to hate Arabs. No one said there shouldn't be an Israeli state. The problem is that they are not satisfied with the borders in 1967. How far do they wanna come? They believe that they are the chosen people by god and that if they are killing innocent people, god has given them the right. This is scary. How many innocent people do they wanna kill? How far do they want their borders to come? Have you ever seen how the Israeli soldiers torture little Palestinan kids? No you haven't because they don't want you to see it. The problem is that the Israelis think that they have the right to expand their land as far as they want and that this is a god given right for them. Let me ask you this question, where do you expect the Palestinians to go? Why should they leave their lands and houses they have worked hard to build? Why do the Israelis want to throw the Palestinians out of Palestine?

  167. AJ | July 20, 2006 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    4 israeli:
    1- israel still occupies Lebanese land, u know that , its called Shib3a farms.It also detains Lebanese individuals and everyday enters the Lebanese air space and waters. ( if the latter happens to any other counrty in the world it will declare war on the trespassing country.
    2- If u can get Nasralla's 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
    Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war.
    Even after killin a lot of civilians and destroyin everything in its way , and at that time Nasralla didnt attack the ppl of israel , he declared in his 2nd press conference that we dont wish to hurt any of ur civilians but ur massacres and continued aggression leaves us no choice but 2 fight back.
    I am sure u didnt know all that , did U!

  168. sam | July 20, 2006 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Did anyone attempt to send the pictures to CNN, CBS, NBC, fox, LA times or the NY times. How about the most popular pictures on the Yahoo web site?
    Go for it…expose their true intentions.

  169. sara | July 20, 2006 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Sam, do you think if we send any of these picture to any of those news casts, they will ever show it? Believe me they won't. They are all puppets. They show pictures of Palestinians or Lebenes being hurt in some extent but they won't show the ones that will touch one's soul that is only permited for Israelis. They don't want you and me and the rest of the world to see the real truth. They give the news to people the way they want it. Do you think these are the first or only pictures like this? There are tons of pictures and even documentaries that even show how much torture has been put on the Palestinians. These pictures and documentaries are not only taken by Arabs but even Americans who have traveled to Middle East but, they have been denied the right to show them and express the truth. Why? We should know by now.

  170. Robin | July 20, 2006 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    (Muslimah, [just a note on the side]
    I'm a Catholic and it states clearly in our Bible, in the New Testament, that Jesus was born a Jew of Jewish parents. One of the first mentions of him as a twelve year old is of him going to the temple and the Jewish people being amazed by his young wisdom. He is supposed to be the fulfillment of the prophesies of Isaah for the coming of the messiah, persecution and all. In fact many Jews believe that the Gospels were written falsely in order to have Jesus fulfill the prophesies and even then did not cut the mustard as the messiah, only a heretic. Our New Testament says that it was BECAUSE he was a Jew that he was condemned by the Pharisees for heresy against the Jewish faith. I'm not really sure what the Koran says, but that's what the New Testament, the portion of the Bible written after Christ says.
    It's REALLY not important to me, the differences between any of the details of any of the three Abrahamic religions, but there you go, now you have the info as per the Christian belief.)
    In any case, I don't think children writing notes on bombs would be condoned by ANY of the prophets pbut. Peace and in solidarity with all those in Palestine and Lebanon suffering what no children of the creator of all mankind should suffer, regardless of race or religion. May God save us all from this insanity.

  171. KingDon | July 20, 2006 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    im sure the messages are for the isreali soldiers in the libanon they shoot that bombs, not for the arabiens !

    think about that, this are kids !

  172. True Christian | July 20, 2006 at 1:10 am | Permalink

    Revelation 3:9

    Peace!
    God is Love

  173. Philip | July 20, 2006 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Muslimah,
    Jewish was a Jew. This is not an issue up for debate. It is historical fact. He was a direct descendant of King David. He took part in the Jewish feasts and festivals. He was referred to frequently as Rabbi. He did not spread the word of the Bible, nor Christianity. He was, by definition, the founder (for lack of a better word). Christianity was typically considered a Jewish sect before more and more non-Jews became involved, granting it cultural distinction from Judaism. The faith was spread by those known as the Apostles, some who knew Jesus firsthand, others (like Paul) who had other supernatural experiences with him.
    The Jewish religious and political authorities sought his death, because they believed he was claiming to be the long-promised Messiah, yet they did not believe him to be. His claims of equality with God as the son of God (i.e. being God in the flesh) resulted in their final attempt to have him executed. Of course, they had no authority under Roman law, so they intimidated the Roman governor of the time, Pilate, to have him crucified. Despite his finding Jesus innocent of any breach of Roman law, he "washed his hands" of Jesus' blood and had him executed. Of course, as a Christian, I believe that Jesus rose from the dead on the 3rd day from the Sabbath (Sunday).
    The Christian texts end with the Book of Revelation, in which Jesus does return, but not to damn the Jews to hell. Rather, it is to throw Satan and his followers there. The Jews' role in the Revelation is that of being renewed followers of God, leading the world against the embodiment of Satan on earth. Exactly how all this will come to pass is unknown. But keep in mind that Christians do not consider Jesus to be prophet; that is a huge difference. Our belief is that he is who he claimed to be, God's son, the representation of God on earth.
    But Jesus was a Jew, unquestionably. Otherwise he would have had no chance at all of having anyone believe he was the Messiah! This does not make Jews superior; it just clarifies that Jesus isn't an anti-Semite! :-)
    As for the set-up of the photos, "Lisa," who Sandmonkey knows, spoke with some of the twelve photographers and other journalists who were there. They told her that the children were just out looking around and that the photographers coaxed them to do it, telling them that their friends/family in America will see them. They certainly should not have been writing on artillery (!), but the message neither stated nor implied a desire for death of Lebanese civilians, but specifically Nasrallah himself.

    Oh, and one clarification:
    It was not "the Jews" who wanted Jesus killed. It was certain religious authorities and a number of other individuals. Many jews followed him. Others, like a wise Pharisee, said to tolerate him, that if he is false, then he will fade away. If he is real and of God, then nothing can stop his message (!). Another member of the Sanhedrin (ruling body) was a Pharisee named Simon who actually offered his family tomb for Jesus, as well as another named Nicodemus who had secretly become a believer.
    Sorry for the Sunday School lesson! ;-)

  174. Philip | July 20, 2006 at 1:25 am | Permalink

    Hey Robin! Quit hijacking my comments! ;-)

    Hey Robin! Quit hijacking my comments! ;-)

    I do agree with a return to the 1967 borders, as do many Israelis. I must ask, though:
    Would Hamas? Hezbollah? Islamic Jihad? Al Aqsa "Martyrs" Brigade? I think therein lies the issue.

  175. sara | July 20, 2006 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Ok Jesus was a jew!!! so what? does that justify their crimes? no no no!!! And by the way, Jesus probably saw lots of flaws in the jewish believes and faith; he probably saw that the Jews are chosing the wrong paths that guided them to a new path and that was what made him preach Christianity, right? right.

  176. sara | July 20, 2006 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    U see, they have given you the wrong image of martyrs and the hizbullah, No they are not what you think or what you media says. Martyrs are people who get sick of their family members being killed and tortured. Martyrs are people who don't want to watch this big power to come and get all of their rights form them, some of these martyrs make the wrong choice and harm civilians and some of them harm the right people. And lets not forget Hezbollah is not what our media says. As AJ said "If u can get Nasralla?s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
    Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war.
    Even after killin a lot of civilians and destroyin everything in its way , and at that time Nasralla didnt attack the ppl of israel , he declared in his 2nd press conference that we dont wish to hurt any of ur civilians but ur massacres and continued aggression leaves us no choice but 2 fight back."

  177. sara | July 20, 2006 at 1:45 am | Permalink

    U see, they have given you the wrong image of martyrs and the hizbullah, No they are not what you think or what you media says. Martyrs are people who get sick of their family members being killed and tortured. Martyrs are people who don't want to watch this big power to come and get all of their rights form them, some of these martyrs make the wrong choice and harm civilians and some of them harm the right people. And lets not forget Hezbollah is not what our media says. As AJ said "If u can get Nasralla?s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
    Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war.
    Even after killin a lot of civilians and destroyin everything in its way , and at that time Nasralla didnt attack the ppl of israel , he declared in his 2nd press conference that we dont wish to hurt any of ur civilians but ur massacres and continued aggression leaves us no choice but 2 fight back."

  178. sara | July 20, 2006 at 1:46 am | Permalink

    U see, they have given you the wrong image of martyrs and the hizbullah, No they are not what you think or what you media says. Martyrs are people who get sick of their family members being killed and tortured. Martyrs are people who don't want to watch this big power to come and get all of their rights and land form them, some of these martyrs make the wrong choice and harm civilians and some of them harm the right people. And lets not forget Hezbollah is not what our media says. As AJ said "If u can get Nasralla?s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
    Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war.
    Even after killin a lot of civilians and destroyin everything in its way , and at that time Nasralla didnt attack the ppl of israel , he declared in his 2nd press conference that we dont wish to hurt any of ur civilians but ur massacres and continued aggression leaves us no choice but 2 fight back."

  179. sara | July 20, 2006 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    U see, they have given you the wrong image of martyrs and the hizbullah, No they are not what you think or what you media says. Martyrs are people who get sick of their family members being killed and tortured. Martyrs are people who don't want to watch this big power to come and get all of their rights and land form them, some of these martyrs make the wrong choice and harm civilians and some of them harm the right people. And lets not forget Hezbollah is not what our media says. As AJ said "If u can get Nasralla?s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
    Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war."

  180. sara | July 20, 2006 at 1:49 am | Permalink

    U see, they have given you the wrong image of martyrs and the hizbullah, No they are not what you think or what you media says. Martyrs are people who get sick of their family members being killed and tortured. Martyrs are people who don't want to watch this big power to come and get all of their rights and land form them, some of these martyrs make the wrong choice and harm civilians and some of them harm the right people. And lets not forget Hezbollah is not what our media says. As AJ said "If u can get Nasralla?s 1st & second speeches translated. U will C that he took the two soldiers & the next minute he declared in his press conference that all we want is a hostage trade, we dont want war or anybody to be killed, he said u can get ur two soldiers back by givin us our hostages back PERIOD.
    Israel went crazy , refused that deal cuz it didnt include killing , its favorite hobby, and started war."

  181. Robin | July 20, 2006 at 2:18 am | Permalink

    Sorry Philip, I didn't mean to hijack, but rather to give a simple answer because I'm a Christian also and just wanted to put in my two cents worth and give a simple explanation as to Jesus being a Jew since it really isn't the topic here. Also it was written, "Just a comment on 245" When the differences get into details and arguing, rather than the fact that the three great religions are related and NEED to get along for the sake of humainity, I don't like arguing the details which lead to the head-butting which just ends up in a tailspin usually. I am VERY uncomfortable with ANYONE of ANY of the three religions telling ANY of the others that they will be eliminated at ANY time. ANYONE killing in the name of God just somehow does not make sense to me. But then again, that is only my own personal opinion. Generally speaking, it does not sit well with me at all. On the note of the above pictures, the circumstances behind the pictures that you have given us from Lisa are even more disgusting. So now kids in Israel are coaxed by telling them their friends in America will see them signing bombs. THAT is REALLY SICK. What kind of monster kid would think this would be appreciated by their "friends in America". Well, the ugly truth is that they would be appreciated by all the idiot Zionists here in the States who think it is just hunky-dorey to kill as many Arabs as possible and what lucky kids these are in the pictures, they actually get to SIGN the bombs, WOW!! How cool is that!! Maybe they could just make them into postcards and try selling them on the street corners. DISGUSTING no matter WHAT the circumstances behind them are.

  182. Muslimah | July 20, 2006 at 2:24 am | Permalink

    You have your beliefs, I have mine, and Allah knows best!
    Allah jazak khair…

  183. Rosajio | July 20, 2006 at 3:04 am | Permalink

    1967 borders? Who defined the borders pre-1967? Was it Israel?…The United Nations?…The League of Nations? The British Mandate?

    The fact of the matter is that Israel is the only country in the world who has no defined border, pre 1969 or otherwise! If you disagree with me, please prove me wrong.

    Israel was as an illegal creation by the zionist terrorists who bombed the British out of the Palestinian territories and enforced their own flag upon the soil of the 3rd party - people who have been living in palestine for generations of more than a millenium. Most of these zionist terrorists were born in Europe (outside of Israel) and had no legal right to attain residency status in Palestine. No only did they want residncy, they wanted total control of the region. They achieved their goals through terrorising the Palestinian people with massacres like Dar Yasin and bombing the British out of Palestine like the King David hotel bombing. Even before the General Assembly of the United Nations could agree upon a solution to the palestinian problem and accepting Israel officially into the UN club, the terrorists went ahead and declared independance calling their land Israel and declaring it to be their holy land granted to them exclusively by God. Under the pressure from United States and also Britain, he UN reluctantly agreed to accept Israel on condition that displaced Palestinians will have the right to return to their land. However, almost 60 years later 5 million palestinians are still living as refugees and israel refuses to allow them to go back to their homes, their legal homes under international law and called upon by the UN. These palestinians have been undergoing unmentionable treatment by the racist state of Israel that discriminates them and does not respect their rights as human beings. It is the extreme oppression upon the palestinians that has created people who ar willing to do anything to defend palestinians, even if that means certainty of death. Afterall, what have they got to live for other than pure racist Israeli oppression? Better they die for a good cause, standing on their feet rather than on their knees, fighting for justice, defending their own from further aggression.

    Israel is the only country in the middle east who has gone to war with all of it's neighbours many times, occupied innocent people's land for more than 60 years, occupied Gaza, ccupied the West Bank and occupied the Golan Heights.

    It is the only country in the middle east that has nuclear weapons with certainty - more than 100 nuclear warheads. The only middle eastern country that refuses to sign the nuclear non prolefeation treaty. It is the only country in the world that has flouted more than 70 UN resolutions time and again till today. It would have triple the amount of resolutions and sanctions if it wasn't for the United States vetoing many of the resolutions or Britain abstaining from it. Israel would be nothing without staunch support from Unites States. It is for this, and this only that people see United States and Britain as legitimate targets for aiding and abetting the oppressors (just like America claims that Syria and Iran are supporting Hizbollah and Hamas).

    Israel is the most de-stabalising factor in the middle east - established by the European Comission when they did their survey!

    As a nation of people, I have nothing against Jews just like I have nothing against Muslims, Catholics or Mormons. However I HATE people who kill and torture through the daily oppression whether they are Muslims, Jews or Christians.

    Just as Hitler and the Nazi movement was hated by the moral people of the world, so too must the Zionist movement with their fascist and racist leaders be hated and despised. And just as force was required to remove the oppression of the Nazi regime, so too must force be used to remove the Zionist scums who occupy the land of a third party and oppress them.

    This has nothing to do with religion - it's about justice! 1967 borders are not the root cause of the problem, it's the illegal invasion of foreign fighters who killed, displaced and occupied the palestine in 1948 that is the root cause of the problem.

  184. getagrip | July 20, 2006 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Amazing. The best solution is to wipe out the populations of Palestine/Israel like contaminated lab experiments. The area could become the "Madness Park" to remind the rest of the planet how close we are to irrationality in the name of religion, land or an "ism." Perhaps a Roman solution would work: sell all the locals into slavery and salt the earth. This also has the benefit of fulfilling the aspirations of extreme elements of both sides while letting the rest of the planet get on with life.

  185. 1969 | July 20, 2006 at 3:36 am | Permalink

    Philip,
    *************************
    Indeed, Jesus was a Jew, by birth.
    **************
    And ultimately, it was the jews who killed him - in their long tradition of killing prophets (you didn't really thought they specialized in civilians and children did you?). Prophets were predominantely descendents of Isaac son of Ibraham, as they were indeed God's chosen people
    **************
    Jews migrated to the Arabian Peninsula 1500 yrs ago because the old testement told them that the last prophet was going to appear there, and naturally - imagine their dismay when they found out that the last prophet is an arab, namely descending from Ismail son of Ibraham -peace be upon them all- (at which point the jews reaction went something along thec lines of "Bummer Dude…")
    **************
    Previous century "versions" of the old testement or older include the name of that city "Yathrib", later called AlMadina, and the name of that prophet: Recepient-of-Praise (or in Arabic: Muhammed). Naturally deleted in subsequent "releases". I have verified these statement personally with a friend who was doing extensive research from old material he checked out from the university library.
    **************
    So naturally the hostilities began with that dissappointment (the Arab jews supported Muhammed's enemies and tried to kill him for no other apparent reason)
    **************
    And where exactly in the Bible did Jesus -peace be upon him- say he was the son of God?
    **************
    I guess as Muslimah said, you have your belief, and we have ours. One thing's for sure though, whoever turns out to be wrong, boy is he gonna be biting on his nails :)

  186. someone | July 20, 2006 at 4:45 am | Permalink

    anyone who tolerates this clearly has no love for life and ppl nd so they shouldn't be allowed to live………life is precious and no one should be allowed to take it away……..

  187. Philip | July 20, 2006 at 5:02 am | Permalink

    Just teasing, Robin! :-D I just noticed that when my comment posted, yours must've gone through at the same time.
    The thing is, I don't think "Zionism" is involved here at all. They were writing a message to a despised terrorist, much in the way and American bomb aimed at Bin Laden might be signed. Again, I don't think kids should be doing it. But it appears to me, and based on the words transcribed, it is abundantly clear that there is no hatred of Arabs presented at all. I know it is implied by the main post that there is some sinister deeper meaning, but realistically, that is trying just a little too hard to find the devil under a rock.
    In fact, I dare say their message is less vitriolic than the comments I've seen here, not just against Zionists (I am not including you, as you have made the distinction, and I know you are not an anti-semite), but against all Jews.
    Perhaps it is just a reaction to the photo? That would not make much sense to me. It's like a white man who "suddenly" becomes racist when a black man mugs him on a darkened street. Bigotry is bigotry.

    Muslimah,
    Works for me! :-)

  188. Josephine | July 20, 2006 at 5:12 am | Permalink

    My heart aches for the innocent ones and the children are the innocent ones and I can not even imagine the misery those family are facing. My prayers are with the whole country and with all the other people that feel such hate is needed. Thank you Sabbah for caring enough for the children to try and show the world what other people are going through while we think all is safe, no one is safe. With much love from the USA and all my prayers

  189. DK | July 20, 2006 at 5:17 am | Permalink

    I dont know whats going on in the word…but its disturbing.No one is saying anything to stop teh violence against the innocent lives lost.How many times in the history has teh means been gained by killing innocent people or by waging wars??But we commemorate those days where horrible acts were commited and lives were lost.Why cant our leaders think like humans, instead of as warships?Whats the point of choosing a leader for every country if all they do is wage wars or just plan for a fight?I dont care who is a muslim, jew, christian, or whatsoever.But the deads are sons, daughters, mothers, fathers,husbands!i feel helpless at not being able to do anything for the Palestenians,lebanese,israelis,iraqis,afghanis.Why cant this world be a peaceful place?WHy do i havethis loooming fear that all this upheavel is calling for a WWIII in 2-3 yrs time???
    No religion teaches violence.Not even islam.Jihad is only self-defence.if you are attacked, only then you have the right to lash back.Islam prohibits killing of children and women or any innocent.And I'm sure even other religions basic foundation is PEACE. Today we are all fighting because somewhere or teh other its teh religion which is creating the rift?Which religion are we following??????? Just think about it.

  190. D to the O to the Dub G | July 20, 2006 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    Look people, there is no God. God was created to control the masses and keep them in line. Now look what a human creation, God, has done. FOR SHAME all of you, Arab, Israeli, everyone should hang their heads in shame.

  191. Rosajio | July 20, 2006 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    As much as we'd like to think that Arabs have an instilled hatred for jews, it is evident that the school curriculum in Israel blatantly teaches racism and brainwashes young children into thinking that Arabs are evil or at the very least ANY Arab who has grieviences with the Israeli state is an enemy of the Jewish race and therefore must be hated.

    To the palestinians/Lebanese, Nasrullah is seen as a hero who dares to stand up to defend the right's and sovereignty of his country, to the Israeli's he is a terrorist who keeps interfering with Israeli foreign policy and therefore must be branded the Bin Laden of Lebanon!…Therefore Hizbollah must die, together with the rest of the innocent civilians of the country who have no association with Hizbollah…and in fact have political differences with Nasrallah!???? More than 300 innocent people have died with the country being sent back 30 years in development - this is purely evil and the so too are evil those nations who gave the racist state the green light to continue it's carnage and murder.

    Israeli's have had 30 people killed and still they are bombing the country into smitherines! Is the life of a jew more valuable than the life of an Arab or Muslim? If you agree yes, then you are a war mongere who who does not believe in justice, therefore nothing can make you realise what being impartial is especially when you are a racist. Little wonder why we here in the west have become targets of those grieving palestinians who have been psychologically raped of any decency. It is these very same double standards and hypocricy that will come back to the west and huant us in the guise of suicide bombers or martyredom operations!

    Collective punishment to an entire community is tyranny and oppression to the civilised world. Another name for collective punishmet to a specified community is 'progrom'. I find it amazing that the very same people who fled from the persecution of the y same Nazis are the very same people carrying out similar attrocities agaianst another helpless community. But as they say, what goes around comes around.

    The State of Israel is and has always been a military occupation of Palestine since the early 1940s. The civilians who live there are a reinforcment of the military occupation who intend to reside in the occupied land till their death. This makes Hizbollah's and Hamas' argument legitimate in repulsing the enemy from their sovereign homeland!

  192. zakaria Mohammed | July 20, 2006 at 6:37 am | Permalink

    Please I need to know about the source of photos. Are they from the Ap? I can't find the source.
    zakaria

  193. JP | July 20, 2006 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    For the purposes of this subject, I want you guys to know that I do not believe in any religion but I do believe in a creator of our Universe.

    I think the fighting has to stop, on both sides. The Palestinians and most of the Arabs in the Middle East need to be given a reason to live. The oil rich governments need to build them an infrastructure so that they can have the opportunities the rest of the world have. The Arab people must be given a chance for an education in proper schools and colleges. The Middle East needs to form an economy besides just Oil and tourism. If most of the Arab population was kept busy with their own houses and gardens, careers, big screen TVs, and cars,then maybe the fighting would not be worth their time. AGAIN, THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN A REASON TO LIVE AND TO SUCCEED!!!

    I agree that whatever these Israeli kids are writing on the missiles doesn't look good to the rest of the world.
    But, I would like to make a few points:

    1). This is the only picture that I've seen in which Israeli children were writing messages on missiles and I think that IT LOOKS BAD AND IS TERRIBLE!! However, I have seen MANY pictures of young Palestinian children wearing fake suicide vests to show their support of the killings of Israeli civilians. It is a FACT that these pictures don't clearly show all the writing on the missiles except for a few words such as "Nazrala with love" "From Israel and Danielle" and that the "Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians - Kids, Die with love.? is invented to try to make this picture look as bad the "suicide baby" pictures.
    If you can find, please post more pictures of Israeli children that show public support for the deaths of innocent Arabs.

    2) There are two big differences between the people in this conflict. Muslims have been for centuries killing one another in the name of their religion. (Just one example: Shia vs. Sunni). However, Jews have never and will never kill one another. This fact cannot be denied. I am not claiming that all Muslims are killers but that there is a lot of violence within their own people. I find that to be very alarming. I hope that I did not offend anyone but this is how I feel.

    I also think if nobody bombed Israel, Israel wouldn't bomb them. Israel just wants its own little country.

  194. Nadia in the USA | July 20, 2006 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    My cousin sent me your link from Ramallah. I forwarded it to my family members here with me in the USA. Just so you know, we are not completely ignorant of goings on back home, and we DO know that Palestine is occupied my Muslims, Christains, and Jews. They all hurt. We all hurt. War does not discriminate.

    Allah yirhumnah. Peace.

  195. john henrik | July 20, 2006 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    Who knows what these kids think..? It's no different from any parents of any country following that old line of "SUPPORT OUR MILITARY, NO MATTER WHAT", since they are defending you from horrible people who are not like you.
    The creation of Israel began in the 1700's, or earlier, by powers of Europe who were either anti-semitic, or who felt that the Jews could not assimilate with the catholics, or other christian powers. This included some rich Jews. And that's only a small part of the picture. With the usage of oil gaining great popularity, the middle east became prime land to seize, "by whatever means necessary", to quote our current president GWB.
    I'm not saying that Israel should be dissolved. It's there and generations have been born & raised there. But, the atrocities of it's leadership (& any other leaders in the world who are guilty of crimes against humanity) should be addressed & appropriate measures of justice should be sought.
    The land was STOLEN by the powers of Europe, & then America, & no solution will be easy. The most disgusting 'dirt under the nails' belongs to the militant, heartless, greedy corporate leaders whose main goal was to steal and profit from the resourses of the area.
    Leaders from all sides of this HELL ON EARTH region of the world are guilty of major crimes and Karma has her work ahead of her.
    And I should also say, MY GOD SAYS EVERYBODY IS MY FAMILY!!! So I guess that means that I've got to forgive those in power. It's not easy to do that, but 'only by the grace of GOD goes I'.

  196. Nadia in the USA | July 20, 2006 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    Sorry for the typos…it's late here for me. my = by*, Christians* Thanks

  197. Mindy | July 20, 2006 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    RE: Israeli children writing messages…..

    First of all, If they were Israeli Children, they would have written their message in Hebrew. Living in Israel, and having raised three children of my own, for a short time there, I tell you that Children of this age, that are Israeli do not write their messages in English, they would have written them in Hebrew!

  198. I see you | July 20, 2006 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    Let's face it folks this is not about money,oil,weapons, it is about RELIGION. Ppl dont like muslims, thats the reason for the war, DUH!!!!
    My only advice is: All of you just be good people to eachother (of all religions) and on the DOJ we will see who the winners are.

    To GOD we all die and to HIM we will return.

  199. Artashes Ashkharakal | July 20, 2006 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    Dear human beings,

    Of course this is horrible what these children are taught by the Talmudists, (ever read the Talmud?) But you know what is worse? Infant and children Circumcision, or Male Genital Mutilation as its called nowadays…

    This little absolutely helpless infant is velcroed to a plastic board called a circumstraint and the most erogenous, exquisitely erotic part of his body is cruelly cut off, the Jews do it religiously on the 8th Day, called Brith Milah, the Muslims from birth to age 14! and the Americans. And duh, guess who's fighting the most in the middle east?!
    Listen to John Lennon?s song IMAGINE, ?and no religion too?

    Gandhi said, If we want to have real peace we have to start with the children, Karl Menninger said "What we do to children, they will do to society"
    http://www.SexAsNatureIntendedIt.com is the most honest site, and it is not controlled by Zionists. The Jews perpetuated the myth that Circumcision started in Egypt, BS, it was started by these control freak AshkeNAZI Khazars, now eastern European fake Jews, so when we speak out against Jews, we are not being "Anti-Semitic" because they are not even Semites, they are the children of Jhapeth, and NOT Shem, and their native land is 800 miles away from Palestine Source http://www.IamtheWitness.com in a long speech by a Jew, Benjamin Freedman, who converted to Catholic Christian, and knew personally 7 American Presidents! and the big trouble they caused under the noses of the Rothschild?s (real name Meyer Amshell Bauer) They are descendents of the money lenders, its called FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING, and pure USARY! (Charging excessive interest fraudulently!) Check this site out, it?s honest

    Reply - http://www.IamtheWitness.com in a long speech by a Jew, Benjamin Freedman, who converted to Catholic Christian, and knew personally 7 American Presidents! and the big trouble they caused under the noses of the Rothschild?s (real name Meyer Amshell Bauer) They are descendents of the money lenders, its called FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING, and pure USARY! (Charging excessive interest fraudulently!) Check this site out, it?s honest'); return false;">Quote
  200. Ammar | July 20, 2006 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    This is wrong, Where is the Arabs at…Lebanon and palestine calling for help people and all the arabs are just watching..untill when..I'm shamed to be an arab.
    guys need to see this..
    http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/

  201. Diana | July 20, 2006 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    This is unfair!!! just look at these pictures and u will feel nothing but hate, disscusting and a desire to go out there and fight with lebanese and palestinians…
    Please God save our children and our country,, Ameen!!!

  202. john | July 20, 2006 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    How about showing us what they do to the israeli's……..or is this only a one sided propaganda machine.
    I think Israel should bomb the shit out of them for the years of suicide bombings, they had to endure.

  203. Ale | July 20, 2006 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    E' terrificante…mi chiedo quanto la ricerca di una visibile identit?ossa essere ancora foriera di morte.

  204. Yaakov | July 20, 2006 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    I see that everyone here is very quick to condemn Israel over these images. It might be worth it though to check out the context of the pictures before jumping to conclusions regarding what really happened with the images, what was written, towards whom was animosity directed (and towards whom was it not directed).

  205. Darawsheh | July 20, 2006 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    This is the state of muslims when they have no Khilafa. the rigid solution is when they establish it. so be the engineers.

    regards

  206. Israeli bloodsucker Devil with horns | July 20, 2006 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Nothing new here. Just as the Palestinians and Lebanese strap their children up with plastic explosives and buy them a bus ticket teach them hatred I am seeing a trend of Jewish parents doing the same thing

    I think Ill convert to christianity lolol

  207. Carla | July 20, 2006 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    to AJ

    I am proud to be a lebanese AJ, and of course Israel and Hiszbolla are in the same category. Both are destroying my beautiful country, they're bringing us back 50 years. Lebanon has become the best tourist attraction in the middle east (at least for the arabs), and what have ISRAEL done, it has destroyed it, what has HIZBOLLA done, it has destroyed it too. so dont tell me i can put both of them in the same category. I am not talking religion here, i am talking humanity wise, both have no sense of life, both do not appreciate life. I am sorry for all those who support hizbolla, but i dont think GOD would want his children to kill each other, and dont get me started on jihad.

    so AJ, please feel free to out yourself in our shoes, you have 1 building destroyed, we have 30 in return, i say GOOD JOB. im not happy at all that people are also dying in ISRAEL, but by god, no one deserves to die. so again, when i say Israel and hizbolla are in the same category, i have my very obvious reasons, and so do most lebanese.

  208. mario brummanna | July 20, 2006 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    A CHILD WILL DO WHAT YOU TELL HIM ,IN 20 YEARS THOSE CHILDREN WILL CURSE THEIR PARENTS OR WHOSOEVER MADE THEM SIGN .I TELL THEM FOR THEN ,YOU CAN LOVE YOUR COUNTRY IN EVERY BETTER WAY BUT THAT

  209. Carla | July 20, 2006 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    to john

    the propaganda machine is CNN, and it's only one sided, one sided to the favor of Israel. and as the toll of death in palestine or in Lebanon, they are faaaaaaaaaar more than the toll in Israel. and you should be ashamed of yourself, wishing for more deaths whether in lebanon or palestine. you are not worthy of being called a human being. i suggest you take a dime, buy yourself a brain that could fit your microscopic head.

  210. yay | July 20, 2006 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    I believe every kid born in holy condition,,, i dont see any reason why we should hate Isrelians kids… they were born at the same condition as Paletinian… What made them to be hated?? It is the government and other elder who thaught them to do so!!!! So to adulthood, STOP WAR!!! it's us who decide our kids gonna be… they can be evil if we want to, and be angel if we do!!!

    Kids Lover!!

  211. dima - peace for lebanon | July 20, 2006 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Tariq Ali
    Thursday July 20, 2006
    The Guardian

    In his last interview - after the 1967 six-day war - the historian Isaac
    Deutscher, whose next-of-kin had died in the Nazi camps and whose surviving
    relations lived in Israel, said: "To justify or condone Israel's wars
    against the Arabs is to render Israel a very bad service indeed and harm its
    own long-term interest." Comparing Israel to Prussia, he issued a sombre
    warning: "The Germans have summed up their own experience in the bitter
    phrase 'Man kann sich totseigen!' 'You can triumph yourself to death'."
    In Israel's actions today we can detect many of the elements of hubris: an
    imperial arrogance, a distortion of reality, an awareness of its military
    superiority, the self-righteousness with which it wrecks the social
    infrastructure of weaker states, and a belief in its racial superiority. The
    loss of many civilian lives in Gaza and Lebanon matters less than the
    capture or death of a single Israeli soldier. In this, Israeli actions are
    validated by the US.
    The offensive against Gaza is designed to destroy Hamas for daring to win an
    election. The "international community" stood by as Gaza suffered collective
    punishment. Dozens of innocents continue to die. This meant nothing to the
    G8 leaders. Nothing was done.
    Israeli recklessness is always green-lighted by Washington. In this case,
    their interests coincide. They want to isolate and topple the Syrian regime
    by securing Lebanon as an Israeli-American protectorate on the Jordanian
    model. They argue this was the original design of the country. Contemporary
    Lebanon, it is true, still remains in large measure the artificial creation
    of French colonialism it was at the outset - a coastal band of Greater Syria
    sliced off from its hinterland by Paris to form a regional client dominated
    by a Maronite minority.
    The country's confessional chequerboard has never allowed an accurate
    census, for fear of revealing that a substantial Muslim - today perhaps even
    a Shia - majority is denied due representation in the political system.
    Sectarian tensions, over-determined by the plight of refugees from
    Palestine, exploded into civil war in the 1970s, providing for the entry of
    Syrian troops, with tacit US approval, and their establishment there -
    ostensibly as a buffer between the warring factions, and deterrent to an
    Israeli takeover, on the cards with the invasions of 1978 and 1982 (when
    Hizbullah did not exist).
    The killing of Rafik Hariri provoked vast demonstrations by the middle
    class, demanding the expulsion of the Syrians, while western organisations
    arrived to assist the progress of a Cedar Revolution. Backed by threats from
    Washington and Paris, the momentum was sufficient to force a Syrian
    withdrawal and produce a weak government in Beirut.
    But Lebanon's factions remained spread-eagled. Hizbullah had not disarmed,
    and Syria has not fallen. Washington had taken a pawn, but the castle had
    still to be captured. I was in Beirut in May, when the Israeli army entered
    and killed two "terrorists" from a Palestinian splinter group. The latter
    responded with rockets. Israeli warplanes punished Hizbullah by dropping
    over 50 bombs on its villages and headquarters near the border. The latest
    Israeli offensive is designed to take the castle. Will it succeed? A
    protracted colonial war lies ahead, since Hizbullah, like Hamas, has mass
    support. It cannot be written off as a "terrorist" organisation. The Arab
    world sees its forces as freedom fighters resisting colonial occupation.
    There are 9,000 Palestinian political prisoners in Israeli gulags. That is
    why Israeli soldiers are captured. Prisoner exchanges have occurred as a
    result. To blame Syria and Iran for Israel's latest offensive is frivolous.
    Until the question of Palestine is resolved and Iraq's occupation ended,
    there will be no peace in the region. A "UN" force to deter Hizbullah, but
    not Israel, is a nonsensical notion.

  212. carla | July 20, 2006 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    to AJ, replying to comment 228…

    i re-read your comment, and i now understand that you are also lebanese!! WOW… i guess i couldn't bellieve it the first time.
    well, i just to make something clear here. i understand where you're coming from. i really do. there is no justice in this, in any way.
    the thing is, in my opinion, killing is killing. no matter who is doing it or for what reason.
    it should stop NOW. i love beirut, and i wake up everyday and cry to see it burning.
    i don't care about the reasons. if politicians or religious leaders have issues, let them solve them by NEGOTIATIONS. that's their job. and that's it. no war is acceptable.

    so to whoever is wrecking beirut i say: STOP BURNING MY BEIRUT. LEAVE US ALONE. LEAVE US IN PEACE.

  213. Ofer from Israel | July 20, 2006 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Look at the center photo. On the shell on the left you can read "Nasrallah" yourself. On the shell in the middle I can tell you it says Nasrallah in Hebrew, ask any Hebrew reader. This is the recipient this girl hopes for.

    But don't let me ruin your wonderful and humane theory.

    BTW - if these children are near the cannons, that means they are in the north of Israel, being shelled and killed by Hizballah just the same (only Israelis are equipped with better bomb shelters).

  214. Ali | July 20, 2006 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    To all Israelies and your supporters, CUT THE FUCKIN BS.
    Let history speak for it-self, we all know that you are bloody people by nature, and it really kills you to see arab advancing and developing well in this world.
    for Lebanon and Palestine, they are screwing up USA and Israel plans in this region.
    Hamas and Hizb Allah, are true Muslems with Aqida and this scares the west more than anything eles in the world.
    As a Palestinian, take it from me, Fuck All Arab Leaders, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVR COUNT ON THEM.
    we realized this long time ago, we just want them to leave us alon, and we will take care of our issues with Israel, USA, and the west.
    IT'S A WAR THAT HAS BEEN DECLARED ON ARABS AND MUSLEMS CENTURIES AGO, AND IT WILL CONTINUE AS LONG AS WE HAVE TRUE MUSLEMS (HAMAS AND HIZIB ALLAH) TO PROTECT.
    For all the people who leave in Palestine and Lebanon, if you dont beleive in your cuse and willing to kill and be killed for it, GET OUT NOW NOW NOW.
    GOD BLESS ALL BELEIVERS

  215. dima - peace for lebanon | July 20, 2006 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    by God.

    what God is this? asking people to fight each other in his name?
    Chosen People? don't make me laugh… do you really believe that when you say it? does it not remind of a guy named Hitler saying "we are the best race"??
    jihad? HAH!! ISLAM is a religion of PEACE. the word islam is derived from SALAM = PEACE. please correct me if i'm wrong.

    how is this possible? how can the truth be twisted so much on both sides of the equation that people actually BELIEVE that they must fight this mad war?

    my question is: how can anyone who has killed another person (or supported the killing of another person) in the name of "God" live with himslelf? honestly.

    how can some people be so closed minded and brainwashed that they can't take a step back and realize where there blind hatred has gotten them?

    i'm sick and tired of people wanting to fight for GOD. i'm sick and tired of people who are arrogant enough to think they are better than others just because they were born white, or jew, or moslem, or christian, or any other thing that they had absolutely no hand in deciding for themselves.

    wake up. think for yourself - take a step back and see the bigger picture, and try to see who you would have been if you had had the choice.

    most importantly, leave my beirut alone. i want to go back to my country. i want my house. i want to see my friends again. i want to dance until dawn at my best friend's wedding as i had planned. PEACE - FOR GOD'S SAKE. PEACE.

  216. Muslemah | July 20, 2006 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    nO cOmMEnT EXCEPT hasbona ALLAh wa naam al wakeel , No one should be blamed but us all what we do is crying for 3 mins then go back to watch T.V or go to the beach, Arabs r themain reason cause we n't good muslems cause we left such sick ppl do this to our ppl.

  217. rizz | July 20, 2006 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    i am a catholic soul who strongly believes in jesus christ and god…in some respects the catholic and the muslim faith tend to clash at some point, but this..nothing has ever prepared both faiths for this..this is appauling and as a christian my heart pours for the lebanese community and also for the naive young israeli girls writing msgs to the lebanese ..i am purely in sorrow and disgust upon the israeli community to allow this behaviour to occur amongst the younger generation…GOD(Allah) does not want this!!! there should be peace and prosperity in the world!! god shall see everything and shall punnish those who go against his divinity……

  218. Ali | July 20, 2006 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Please people do not give away Haifa, Yafa, Akka and the rest of Palestine. This land is WAQF for all muslems in the world and nobody has the right to give up one cm of this holy land.
    Jews are not peacefull people. its known in history that they reneg all agreements.
    If you read Quran, you will understand then will know how to deal with these people

  219. guerrilla radio | July 20, 2006 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    ….Nel 1942 i nazisti massacravano civili inermi come vendetta per i loro ufficiali morti…

    ….Gli insegnamenti migliori non si scordano…….

    your rage i my rage,
    my rage is your rage,

    my mome,
    is yours.

    Victor italian blogger from Milan.
    http://guerrillaradio.iobloggo.com/

    stay humans…

  220. naser Kasem | July 20, 2006 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    we will send the same messege to isreal , in the best time u will know who is arab kids and how they can send messege well

  221. ???? | July 20, 2006 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
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  222. shaimaa | July 20, 2006 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    I?m speechless
    my tears were the only comment

  223. lindy barkat | July 20, 2006 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    i am sickened from these pics but i dont put it past the hatred of arabs that jews teach their children at birth and they say we the muslims teach our children about hatred and death. i congratulate you for in this day of anybody to fight against what isreal and america says would be either put in isrealis jails and americas gitmo i stand with you to show what the brutal assult on lebanons civilans by the jewish zionist regime. may god insallah carry hezbollah to victory because they seem to be the only people with the fight and strength to help the lebanese people live with dignity and freedom from the zionist land stealing and power hungry isreallis. may god bless the souls of the lebanese martyrs of this war and may in gods strength the hezbollah soldiers and the lebanese people overcome the jewish invasion of lebanon for yet another time in history. insallah this will be the last time isreal will be on the lebanese soil that doesnt belong to them. viva lebanon hezbollah and the palestinian resistance movement

  224. Hicham FILALI ZEHRI | July 20, 2006 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Hi there,

    Thank you very much for this blog, which is helping us know how Zionist kill the innocent and children.

    It's a great blog. Congratulations!!!

  225. Jewh8er | July 20, 2006 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    We need another Hitler indeed. Only he knows how the stop these jew's action!! not un or f***ing usa or another!!!

  226. Philip | July 20, 2006 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Propaganda, propaganda, propaganda. I doubt anyone bothered to read the real story behind the photos that Yaakov posted (that is, the link was posted by Yaakov, not the photos). Lisa (in the link), who actually (gasp!) wanted to find out the truth (but then, what does truth really matter when there is hyper-emotionalism involved?), spoke with the photographers and journalists who were on the scene, including the photographer who snapped the pictures!
    I am sorry if this sounds rude, but this post is nothing more than a crass and borderline vulgar attempt to whip people into a frenzy using misleading inferences and half-truths. Say what you like about the whole conflict. Refuse to omit photos of dead, injured Israelis. But it is shameful to try to build the case by adding contrived, non-existent meanings to these photos.
    But then again, as the Israelis are frequently criticized for, the ends justify the means? ? ? ? ? right?

  227. stas | July 20, 2006 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    I dont know who you are

    I dont know why you make these sickening sites

    I dont know (doubt) that you will ever read my email.

    Not getting too personal here are 5 reasons WHY USA must continue its aid to Israel and 5 reasons for ISRAEL to continue its actions in (YES) Occupied Palestinian territories.

    1 - Israel is the only (more or less) westernised, civilized, progressive, modern, sovereign state in the middle east. Moreover many of its supporters and admirers are amongst the US senate and if other religions can make it to the US senate - please support other religions… however if a muslim comes to US senate… which of the 24 Arab countries will he support? hmmm.. difficult. there is only ONE JEWISH state in the world and 24 Muslim/Arab states.

    2 - Israel pays back with HR, Tourism, Hospitality etc… The economic factor. Israel LOVES Americans!

    3 - R&D Factor. Many researches and creative things happen in Israel. Mobile phone, billing, credit cards etc… were all discovered in Israel.

    4 - Israel after many many years is still fighting for its existence (see Hizbollah attack). Why not to help them?

    5 - Anyone in the Arab world is more then welcome to support Palestinians as against US help to Israel (which is done from Iran, Saudi, Syria etc… - even though it is mostly attacking techniques)…

    Enough or you want more?

    Remember - there is a word against yours ALWAYS!

    5 Reasons for Israel to FIGHT PALESTINIANS:

    1 - No peace plans, no initiateves were accepted. For Palestinians every step forward by Israel is a WIN and a reason to keep KILLING as they interpet it as "we killed - that is why they gave" (see Gaza, South Lebanon 2000).

    2 - Palestinian people chose Hammas who does not recognize israel and FIGHTS for its full extermination (please see their website). Why would Israel care about people who want to kill every single Israeli??????

    3 - Every BAD things that Israelis do to Palestinians is a direct result of the abuse of any common, acceptable, logic steps towards peace by Palestinians. See Ambulance shooting as a result of NUMEROUS attempts (some went well) to get weapon in the ambulance. See house destroying - result of using the house as an entrance to the cage where weapon is smuggled from Egypt. See killing 15 years old boy INNOCENTLY throwing stones at Israeli tank… well.. i think (hope) you got it yourself.

    4 - Palestinians are not scared to die, they are prepared to be SHAHEEDS so… why bother? Why bother about their own life if they CAN NOT CHERISH IT themselves?

    5 - Who are Palestinians? (Palestine is the name given by romans to the people who lived there… same people who lived in Todays Jordan and Lebanon)… so who are Palestinians? Where is Palestine and who set their national boarders and when? Does the govt. of Palestine knows what are they fighting for at all? Is it puting a state between lebanon and red sea, mid. sea and jordan and to call is Palestine?? Why? Why does the Palestinian govt. fighting for it? Why JEWS can not have a country while arabs have over 20!?! Why Jews have to fight EVERY DAY and the whole world will tend to belive that they are fighting wrongly!?

    Anarchy, lack of freedom, no culture, no progess - that is what palestine is all about.

    in schools they teach how to HATE JEWS in unis they learn to make explosives! they are happy to die and kill.. .that is what palestine is all about…

    P.S. little girls on your site were writing to NAsralla saying that they hope he dies… saying that they hope that these bombs will teach him something… obviously you interpreted it in YOUR OWN WAY to project the BAD LITTLE JEWS…

    I really really hate people like you. no knowledge, no evidence… just photos with your own agenda… simply because you are muslim or somehow related to them….

    there is no MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD!!!! Otherwise syria and iran would have taken hizbollah to their states but they chose to kill lebanese people instead… nice brotherhood isnt it!?

    BEST OF LUCK!

  228. rixfromus | July 20, 2006 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Well Lebonese civilians are dying for their choice to elect a terrorist organziation as their goverment. I find it difficult to find sorrow for that. But I do find sorrow for the death of innocent people based upon the ideolgy of the many that terrorist should run their country.

    I feel bad for the civilians that are losing their lives but its hard to say wow, feel bad for them because they choose to elect someone who wanted to start wars…so they chose to live a life like a terrorist.

    I think isreal shouldn't stop. They should send a message that if you elect corrupt goverment officials with an agenda to kill then you better hope they can protect you.

    Unfortuantely the USA (us) did the same thing except we have the balls to back it.By the way, we try to minimize civilian casualties, I see israel is really not caring but besides that.

    I hope Israel brings Lebanon to its knees where they begin to hate Hezbolla for putting them through this. Where people start to realize that viloence begats viloence. And unless you want to live in ruin and poverty you better start to think about what they are doing and who they want to run the country.

    You may hate Israel but don't be stupid and have your poodle pick a fight with a pitbull. Don't start something you can't finish and then complain about it when it doesn't work out the way you want.

    Lebanon, Disarm and remove Hezbolla and live in peace!
    Don't be smart asses with Israel and then act surprised when you get butt beat.

    Your setting your children up for more hate and the life that you have. Israel is not occuping you, they left in 2000, let you grow and prosper but you turned out to be a ruthless enemy. You should live in destruction. Turn from your wicked ways. Find Jesus, Do something but stop starting crap and learn from your mistakes.

    If not, then live in your own destruction, writhe in your hate, swim in your agony, and wallow in your defeat, morn for your children, live with silence