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	<description>We Still Hold The Key And Deed To Our Home In Palestine. We Will Return!</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aamir Waheed</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-353725</link>
		<dc:creator>Aamir Waheed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Khan.. Any Pakistani in their right-mind would not write what you wrote at this blog.. I am from Punjab and went to College in Ghulam Ishaq Khan University in Swabi, NWFP. Today I am working in the US with the education that I got from Pakistan.. Our home-land is surely under siege by dictators, generals and politicians, but like any other democracy we are figuring out what it means to be an independent state.. For those on this forum outside of India &#38; Pakistan, you should know this categorically that Pakistanis are working on providing better life to ALL PAKISTANI'S.. I love Baluchistan, NWFP, Sindh &#38; Punjab as much as I love Pakistan.. I plan to go back one day to serve the country with what it has provided me.. Its very easy for any indian out there to put a name like "khan" at the end to show he's pakistani.. No one close to the reality in Pakistan in their right mind (other then those with vested propaganda interests) can say such a thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Khan.. Any Pakistani in their right-mind would not write what you wrote at this blog.. I am from Punjab and went to College in Ghulam Ishaq Khan University in Swabi, NWFP. Today I am working in the US with the education that I got from Pakistan.. Our home-land is surely under siege by dictators, generals and politicians, but like any other democracy we are figuring out what it means to be an independent state.. For those on this forum outside of India &amp; Pakistan, you should know this categorically that Pakistanis are working on providing better life to ALL PAKISTANI&#8217;S.. I love Baluchistan, NWFP, Sindh &amp; Punjab as much as I love Pakistan.. I plan to go back one day to serve the country with what it has provided me.. Its very easy for any indian out there to put a name like &#8220;khan&#8221; at the end to show he&#8217;s pakistani.. No one close to the reality in Pakistan in their right mind (other then those with vested propaganda interests) can say such a thing</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-353258</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Khan! we have to realize one thing that whatever is happening in Pakistan is largely because of external influence. It is sad that Pakistan has been  made battle ground of dirrenet ideologies. Can any one tell me about a third world country where you do not have any such problems.Phillipine, Thailand, India and many more. What about Albania, Bosnia ad Serbia. Isn't it strange that only muslims countries have been termed as wrongly mapped / created countries. The truth is that Middle East in its present state was created by West to suit its own agenda. Now tey have a new agenda for which they want to redo it. These people who claim to be the champions of human rights and freedom stay quiet wen it comes to India. What about Kashmir and other parts of India like Mezoram and Asaam. Mr Khan! people like u should first learn to respect ur motherland. With people like you we do  not need to have any enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Khan! we have to realize one thing that whatever is happening in Pakistan is largely because of external influence. It is sad that Pakistan has been  made battle ground of dirrenet ideologies. Can any one tell me about a third world country where you do not have any such problems.Phillipine, Thailand, India and many more. What about Albania, Bosnia ad Serbia. Isn&#8217;t it strange that only muslims countries have been termed as wrongly mapped / created countries. The truth is that Middle East in its present state was created by West to suit its own agenda. Now tey have a new agenda for which they want to redo it. These people who claim to be the champions of human rights and freedom stay quiet wen it comes to India. What about Kashmir and other parts of India like Mezoram and Asaam. Mr Khan! people like u should first learn to respect ur motherland. With people like you we do  not need to have any enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: Azerikurtlari</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-353176</link>
		<dc:creator>Azerikurtlari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I m from Azerbaijan!!! We will help our Friends!!! if war began im sure that Turkich people will hepl ich ohter and of corse to Parkistan!! Parkistans our brothers!! Turkish brother Parkistans!! THank u Parkistan!!!!Long Live Azerbaijan Turkey Parkistan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AZERBAIJAN
TURKEY
PARKISTAN
LOng LIVE</description>
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AZERBAIJAN<br />
TURKEY<br />
PARKISTAN<br />
LOng LIVE</p>
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		<title>By: sic1223</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-330296</link>
		<dc:creator>sic1223</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Khan,

What you are saying is clearly INCORRECT.  I am from Balochistan and can tell you that most Balochis and Pashtuns are LOYAL to Pakistan.  Only a minority of tribes are falling prey to "outside" influence and creating unrest.  In Pakistan, people of all ethnicities live in harmony in cities like Lahore, Islamabad, and Karachi.  Its best for us in Balochistan to work for improvement of Balochistan and the Pakistani nation.  A strong Pakistan is the best thing for all of us and the best thing for the world because it would lessen terrorism.  We need an educated and developed Balochistan in the future and I agree with the ideas of Former Pakistani PM Jamali (who is a Balochi, by the way).

Your comments make you sound like and Indian.  Its best worry about your own nation first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Khan,</p>
<p>What you are saying is clearly INCORRECT.  I am from Balochistan and can tell you that most Balochis and Pashtuns are LOYAL to Pakistan.  Only a minority of tribes are falling prey to &#8220;outside&#8221; influence and creating unrest.  In Pakistan, people of all ethnicities live in harmony in cities like Lahore, Islamabad, and Karachi.  Its best for us in Balochistan to work for improvement of Balochistan and the Pakistani nation.  A strong Pakistan is the best thing for all of us and the best thing for the world because it would lessen terrorism.  We need an educated and developed Balochistan in the future and I agree with the ideas of Former Pakistani PM Jamali (who is a Balochi, by the way).</p>
<p>Your comments make you sound like and Indian.  Its best worry about your own nation first.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-244779</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reshaping the Middle East, I say let's reshape the neocons into pillars of salt and send them all back to the Crawford Ranch for the cows to finish off the job!!</description>
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		<title>By: khan</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-244582</link>
		<dc:creator>khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Its very good action to change the map of Pakistan i agree with them and do this very soon because we want liberation from pakistan and the free Balochistan is the erfect country for our people and the pashton areas in balochistan are the part of Afghanistan wich should begive back to Afghanistan And on the other site for our Baloch brothers there should be a Free And Liberated Balochistan where they live with freedom and liberty if that occure we will be very thank full to America And Other Nations. Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Its very good action to change the map of Pakistan i agree with them and do this very soon because we want liberation from pakistan and the free Balochistan is the erfect country for our people and the pashton areas in balochistan are the part of Afghanistan wich should begive back to Afghanistan And on the other site for our Baloch brothers there should be a Free And Liberated Balochistan where they live with freedom and liberty if that occure we will be very thank full to America And Other Nations. Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-201234</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is Imperialist madness and hubris. Schemes like this never work and always leave wars (big wars), genocide and millions of refugees in their wake. It is almost like a giant version of &lt;a&gt;The Balfour Declaration" &lt;/a&gt; in 1917, where, as Arthur Koestler put it "one nation solemnly promised to a second nation the country of a third". Those "nations" of course were the U.K. (now known as the "U.S."), Palestine and Israel and I think we all know what has happened since. Imagine what will happen if the US try to impose an enforcement of new national boundaries with "winners" and "losers" throughout the whole Middle East!
Thomas, I'm not so sure that the "ethnic cleansing" comment was ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is Imperialist madness and hubris. Schemes like this never work and always leave wars (big wars), genocide and millions of refugees in their wake. It is almost like a giant version of <a>The Balfour Declaration&#8221; </a> in 1917, where, as Arthur Koestler put it &#8220;one nation solemnly promised to a second nation the country of a third&#8221;. Those &#8220;nations&#8221; of course were the U.K. (now known as the &#8220;U.S.&#8221;), Palestine and Israel and I think we all know what has happened since. Imagine what will happen if the US try to impose an enforcement of new national boundaries with &#8220;winners&#8221; and &#8220;losers&#8221; throughout the whole Middle East!<br />
Thomas, I&#8217;m not so sure that the &#8220;ethnic cleansing&#8221; comment was ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: Hou-Hou Blog : Redessiner les fronti?s du Moyen-Orient !</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hou-Hou Blog : Redessiner les fronti?s du Moyen-Orient !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] ndant, nous continuons ?ous entretuer.  ps, tiens, il y a Haitham qui vient de publier un article sur le m? sujet !          ce message est : int?ssant:0 &#124; non pertine [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] ndant, nous continuons ?ous entretuer.</p>
<p> ps, tiens, il y a Haitham qui vient de publier un article sur le m? sujet !</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas, a Dane</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-199835</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas, a Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I am not yet completely sure what to think of the concept, but I am very sure that I do not like the basic assumption Mr. Peters is basing his ideas on: Ethnocentric nationalism as a solution to the growing pains of a multi-ethnic society.

This seems to be the typical if-we-ignore-the-problem-it-will-go-away approach that has been proven not to work. This is exactly the same fallacy that the Zionist extremists are building their utopian society on. To create and sustain a Jewish state, a Shia state, a Communist state, or a red haired state etc. requires much more of the violence, racism, and psychopathic behavior in general than it tries to solve - and it can NEVER be free and democratic. What the hell happened to tolerance and acceptance?!?

As I see it, xenophobia and intolerance in the minds of people are the problems that need to be addressed. Ethnic isolation is not a solution, because that only puts the problems in the cupboard...to be taken out again when it has grown stronger at a later date!

Sure, redrawing some borders may have practical benefits, but it will not change a thing until a sustainable solution is found to address the intolerance that led to the border redrawing idea being 'necessary' in the first place.

One thing I am fully convinced of is that the fact that this is an idea from the USA makes it very dangerous. After all, changes in any society has to come from within not from the outside; the mess in Iraq, the blind support of the Israeli occupation, and the Mohammed incident are good proof of that.

I think, one of the best ways anybody can help and promote positive changes in another society is to lend a helping hand (only when it is asked for), but not getting in way of changes is the single most important way to help (no kind support of a dictator, no kind insistence on a particular political ideology, no kind insistence on privatization before society is ready for it etc.). 

Mr. Peters claims with irony that 'ethnic cleansing works', but I think he ignores some very important points. If ignoring the minority of Native Americans who have survived in the ethnic cleansing 'required' to build the USA, then ethnic cleansing seems to work - but only due to far superior fire power and the thoroughness of the 'cleaner'. If the Croats had been powerful and thorough enough with their 'cleaning job' on the Serbs during WWII, then the dormant hatred and thirst for revenge of the Serbs would not have led to an inverted repeat of history 40 years later. So maybe ethnic cleansing works, but cheap spot removers will not do the job and a quality detergent is just too expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I am not yet completely sure what to think of the concept, but I am very sure that I do not like the basic assumption Mr. Peters is basing his ideas on: Ethnocentric nationalism as a solution to the growing pains of a multi-ethnic society.</p>
<p>This seems to be the typical if-we-ignore-the-problem-it-will-go-away approach that has been proven not to work. This is exactly the same fallacy that the Zionist extremists are building their utopian society on. To create and sustain a Jewish state, a Shia state, a Communist state, or a red haired state etc. requires much more of the violence, racism, and psychopathic behavior in general than it tries to solve - and it can NEVER be free and democratic. What the hell happened to tolerance and acceptance?!?</p>
<p>As I see it, xenophobia and intolerance in the minds of people are the problems that need to be addressed. Ethnic isolation is not a solution, because that only puts the problems in the cupboard&#8230;to be taken out again when it has grown stronger at a later date!</p>
<p>Sure, redrawing some borders may have practical benefits, but it will not change a thing until a sustainable solution is found to address the intolerance that led to the border redrawing idea being &#8216;necessary&#8217; in the first place.</p>
<p>One thing I am fully convinced of is that the fact that this is an idea from the USA makes it very dangerous. After all, changes in any society has to come from within not from the outside; the mess in Iraq, the blind support of the Israeli occupation, and the Mohammed incident are good proof of that.</p>
<p>I think, one of the best ways anybody can help and promote positive changes in another society is to lend a helping hand (only when it is asked for), but not getting in way of changes is the single most important way to help (no kind support of a dictator, no kind insistence on a particular political ideology, no kind insistence on privatization before society is ready for it etc.). </p>
<p>Mr. Peters claims with irony that &#8216;ethnic cleansing works&#8217;, but I think he ignores some very important points. If ignoring the minority of Native Americans who have survived in the ethnic cleansing &#8216;required&#8217; to build the USA, then ethnic cleansing seems to work - but only due to far superior fire power and the thoroughness of the &#8216;cleaner&#8217;. If the Croats had been powerful and thorough enough with their &#8216;cleaning job&#8217; on the Serbs during WWII, then the dormant hatred and thirst for revenge of the Serbs would not have led to an inverted repeat of history 40 years later. So maybe ethnic cleansing works, but cheap spot removers will not do the job and a quality detergent is just too expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: kimmy</title>
		<link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/27/blood-borders/#comment-199442</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just an opinion.
My father was a freedom fighter in Denmark during WWII when Germany invaded Denmark.
Now the Israelis are invading Southern Lebanon to wipe out Hezbollah who were formed when Israel invaded Lebanon 20 years ago.
The Israelis and the US call Hezbollah terrorists.
Are they? Or are they freedom fighters?
Something to think about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just an opinion.<br />
My father was a freedom fighter in Denmark during WWII when Germany invaded Denmark.<br />
Now the Israelis are invading Southern Lebanon to wipe out Hezbollah who were formed when Israel invaded Lebanon 20 years ago.<br />
The Israelis and the US call Hezbollah terrorists.<br />
Are they? Or are they freedom fighters?<br />
Something to think about!</p>
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