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> <channel><title>Comments on: Would You Dream of Returning to Your Country, Your Homes?</title> <atom:link href="http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/</link> <description>Because Silence is Complicity!</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:10:04 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: kimmy</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-206230</link> <dc:creator>kimmy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:00:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-206230</guid> <description>thomas,
you said it best.
thank you</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomas,<br
/> you said it best.<br
/> thank you</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-205246</link> <dc:creator>John</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:20:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-205246</guid> <description>That imagination idea is useless, it could and can never happen.
Somehow the people in that countries are getting slaved again and again by fanatic dictatorial authority and by fanatic relegion.
It has nothing to do with the west, it is a self-destruction tendency.
Try to imagine them getting out of that slavery first and then try to imagine other things.
John</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That imagination idea is useless, it could and can never happen.<br
/> Somehow the people in that countries are getting slaved again and again by fanatic dictatorial authority and by fanatic relegion.<br
/> It has nothing to do with the west, it is a self-destruction tendency.</p><p>Try to imagine them getting out of that slavery first and then try to imagine other things.</p><p>John</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas, a Dane</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-204895</link> <dc:creator>Thomas, a Dane</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:24:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-204895</guid> <description>Mick Williams,
Try to imagine you are a handicapped, homosexual, Roma, practitioner of natural medicine,or a political dissident who have been publicly burnt, boiled, drowned, tortured, pursecuted, harassed, and alienated in your own society alongside Jews for centuries. Try to imagine that you have fought for tolerance and acceptance in order for all minorities to rightfully live in peace in the societies they are born.
Then try to imagine that 120 years ago a small group from one of the minorities who had suffered alongside you started a political organization which would marginalize your suffering as a means to promote their own political ends. Try also to imagine that this organization actively worked against you being tolerated and accepted in the society you were born simply because they saw themselves as so important that support for tolerance and acceptance of all minorities would be sacrifised -even sabotaged- for the purpose of promoting the political objectives of this organization which does not even represent everybody in their own group - your fellow minority!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mick Williams,</p><p>Try to imagine you are a handicapped, homosexual, Roma, practitioner of natural medicine,or a political dissident who have been publicly burnt, boiled, drowned, tortured, pursecuted, harassed, and alienated in your own society alongside Jews for centuries. Try to imagine that you have fought for tolerance and acceptance in order for all minorities to rightfully live in peace in the societies they are born.</p><p>Then try to imagine that 120 years ago a small group from one of the minorities who had suffered alongside you started a political organization which would marginalize your suffering as a means to promote their own political ends. Try also to imagine that this organization actively worked against you being tolerated and accepted in the society you were born simply because they saw themselves as so important that support for tolerance and acceptance of all minorities would be sacrifised -even sabotaged- for the purpose of promoting the political objectives of this organization which does not even represent everybody in their own group &#8211; your fellow minority!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CanOfun</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-204677</link> <dc:creator>CanOfun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:21:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-204677</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] ;MemberPosts: 34Qana Masacre photographs.  Warning these images are extremely disturbing.  http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30 [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ;MemberPosts: 34Qana Masacre photographs.  Warning these images are extremely disturbing. <a
href="http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30" rel="nofollow">http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30</a> [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kimmy</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-204524</link> <dc:creator>kimmy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:23:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-204524</guid> <description>frank en stein,
It actually started in 1880 if my facts are straight.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frank en stein,<br
/> It actually started in 1880 if my facts are straight.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-204349</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:27:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-204349</guid> <description>Haitham, please correct me if I am wrong, but I think you know that the &quot;creative imaginination&quot; of some Israeli posters in this &#039;blog, isn&#039;t really &quot;creative&quot; at all;-) It&#039;s an old technique I learned about many years ago, and it is used extensively by organisations such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aipac.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;AIPAC&quot; &lt;/a&gt;
It goes like this ...
Get the argument away from the reality of the suffering,
Take the argument into a different &quot;hypothetical&quot; situation where there are &quot;good guys&quot; and &quot;bad guys&quot;, which are already designated by the person who is creating the &quot;example&quot; (eg &quot;robber&quot; = Palestinian, &quot;decent, law abiding citizen&quot; = Israeli).
Force you into making a decision in this hypothetical situation which plays entirely by their rules,
Say &quot;AH! told you so! Now you know why we have to fight the &quot;bad guys&quot; if you answer &quot;yes&quot; to any of their questions!
In my humble opinion, the piece above is simply an attempt to play them at their own game. However, I feel that it won&#039;t work as well in the US as the author intends it to, as the author is using his inverted logic to point his finger at the US (in it&#039;s role reversal as &quot;Iraq&quot;), and many Americans prefer not to see their county&#039;s behaviour mirrored in this way (whatever the truth is). Rather, they respond more to messages that point out some kind of &quot;common cause&quot; that they can indentify with, rather than having a finger pointed at them. Organisations like AIPAC understand this all too well. Personally, I do not believe that a constantly unfolding human tragedy should be reduced to silly hypothetical situations like this anyway!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haitham, please correct me if I am wrong, but I think you know that the &#8220;creative imaginination&#8221; of some Israeli posters in this &#8216;blog, isn&#8217;t really &#8220;creative&#8221; at all;-) It&#8217;s an old technique I learned about many years ago, and it is used extensively by organisations such as <a
href="http://www.aipac.org/" rel="nofollow"> &#8220;AIPAC&#8221; </a></p><p>It goes like this &#8230;<br
/> Get the argument away from the reality of the suffering,</p><p>Take the argument into a different &#8220;hypothetical&#8221; situation where there are &#8220;good guys&#8221; and &#8220;bad guys&#8221;, which are already designated by the person who is creating the &#8220;example&#8221; (eg &#8220;robber&#8221; = Palestinian, &#8220;decent, law abiding citizen&#8221; = Israeli).</p><p>Force you into making a decision in this hypothetical situation which plays entirely by their rules,</p><p>Say &#8220;AH! told you so! Now you know why we have to fight the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; if you answer &#8220;yes&#8221; to any of their questions!</p><p>In my humble opinion, the piece above is simply an attempt to play them at their own game. However, I feel that it won&#8217;t work as well in the US as the author intends it to, as the author is using his inverted logic to point his finger at the US (in it&#8217;s role reversal as &#8220;Iraq&#8221;), and many Americans prefer not to see their county&#8217;s behaviour mirrored in this way (whatever the truth is). Rather, they respond more to messages that point out some kind of &#8220;common cause&#8221; that they can indentify with, rather than having a finger pointed at them. Organisations like AIPAC understand this all too well. Personally, I do not believe that a constantly unfolding human tragedy should be reduced to silly hypothetical situations like this anyway!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brown Blogger Brigade</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-204996</link> <dc:creator>Brown Blogger Brigade</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-204996</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;and they bleed like us. Unlike the few pro-Israeli-terrorist samples from Israel that we saw here in the past few days, when I read something like the following words, I see some light on the horizon! (Hat tip: Andy)  Days of darkness  By Gideon Levy   Read the rest   &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and they bleed like us. Unlike the few pro-Israeli-terrorist samples from Israel that we saw here in the past few days, when I read something like the following words, I see some light on the horizon! (Hat tip: Andy)  Days of darkness  By Gideon Levy   Read the rest</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Black Looks</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-204997</link> <dc:creator>Black Looks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:36:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-204997</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;via Sabbah?s Blog&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>via Sabbah?s Blog</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pantoffelpunk</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-205000</link> <dc:creator>pantoffelpunk</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:58:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-205000</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Muslime im Libanon und anderswo sp?stens jetzt nicht mehr am Frieden mit Israel interssiert sind und Hisbollah, Hamas und all die anderen Idiotentruppen jetzt massiven Zulauf bekommen werden, bedarf allerdings auch keiner weiteren Erkl?ng.  [IMG Gefährlicher Hisbollah Kämpfer tot]&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslime im Libanon und anderswo sp?stens jetzt nicht mehr am Frieden mit Israel interssiert sind und Hisbollah, Hamas und all die anderen Idiotentruppen jetzt massiven Zulauf bekommen werden, bedarf allerdings auch keiner weiteren Erkl?ng.  [IMG Gefährlicher Hisbollah Kämpfer tot]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tailrank - Top posts for Saturday July 29, 2006</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-205001</link> <dc:creator>Tailrank - Top posts for Saturday July 29, 2006</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-205001</guid> <description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;    Would You Dream of Returning to Your Country, Your Homes?    &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Would You Dream of Returning to Your Country, Your Homes?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: frank en stein</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-203476</link> <dc:creator>frank en stein</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:39:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-203476</guid> <description>Let me get this straight, the Palestinians and Iraqis have been murdered and tourtured for more than eight decades. If my history serves me correct the Isreals where given land around the end of World War Two, that would be about 1945. Doing the math that would be 2006 - 1945 = 61 years = 6.1 decades. So I have a question for you, If the Jews were doing the killing for 61 years then who was commiting all of these crimes the other 19 plus years?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight, the Palestinians and Iraqis have been murdered and tourtured for more than eight decades. If my history serves me correct the Isreals where given land around the end of World War Two, that would be about 1945. Doing the math that would be 2006 &#8211; 1945 = 61 years = 6.1 decades. So I have a question for you, If the Jews were doing the killing for 61 years then who was commiting all of these crimes the other 19 plus years?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aiyn</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-203291</link> <dc:creator>Aiyn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:58:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-203291</guid> <description>Only the one who are prepared have the oppurtunity. The blame doesnt solely go to the israel or the imperialistic nations. Our leaders have been so ignorant and are content that the oil would last for infinite time.  The root cause is our older generations, inability to sacrifice and bring about change from within. There has to be sacrifices to be done for the greater good of our societies. Hezbollah, hamas and other palestinians have suffered and they are the most terrorised people in centuries. This has prompted them and alerted them of the consequences of the unpreparedness. Our leaders do not comply and havent foreseen and to be honest do not have the vision for counter measures and impose conditions that would safegaurd the civilians, but also their interests. In this age of negotiations (since the creation of white man&#039;s bomb, the atom bomb). We are constantly being imparted a jungle hierarchy, that the imperialistic nations or the industrialised nations are at the top of the food chain.
I would also like to hail, our king abdullah, Saudi Arabian King and other monarch&#039;s who are blindly in the belief that they are immune.  Every generation has a war to fight and it is clearly seen the fall of the all these empires and western dominion is being imposed for centuries.
According to the Universal rights formulated and according to the freedom messiah &quot;MR. BUSH &amp; BLAIR&quot; every nation and every individual has the right to defend its very existence. It is justified for all the nations to hold tools and technology to safegaurd their interests. Furthermore, if the nations and its leaders are not in a position to safegaurd the very interests of the civilians.
The bottom line it is your duty, to safe gaurd your people. The common man, should empower himself and shouldnt rely on the machinery that serves the interests of western nations.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only the one who are prepared have the oppurtunity. The blame doesnt solely go to the israel or the imperialistic nations. Our leaders have been so ignorant and are content that the oil would last for infinite time.  The root cause is our older generations, inability to sacrifice and bring about change from within. There has to be sacrifices to be done for the greater good of our societies. Hezbollah, hamas and other palestinians have suffered and they are the most terrorised people in centuries. This has prompted them and alerted them of the consequences of the unpreparedness. Our leaders do not comply and havent foreseen and to be honest do not have the vision for counter measures and impose conditions that would safegaurd the civilians, but also their interests. In this age of negotiations (since the creation of white man&#8217;s bomb, the atom bomb). We are constantly being imparted a jungle hierarchy, that the imperialistic nations or the industrialised nations are at the top of the food chain.</p><p>I would also like to hail, our king abdullah, Saudi Arabian King and other monarch&#8217;s who are blindly in the belief that they are immune.  Every generation has a war to fight and it is clearly seen the fall of the all these empires and western dominion is being imposed for centuries.</p><p>According to the Universal rights formulated and according to the freedom messiah &#8220;MR. BUSH &amp; BLAIR&#8221; every nation and every individual has the right to defend its very existence. It is justified for all the nations to hold tools and technology to safegaurd their interests. Furthermore, if the nations and its leaders are not in a position to safegaurd the very interests of the civilians.</p><p>The bottom line it is your duty, to safe gaurd your people. The common man, should empower himself and shouldnt rely on the machinery that serves the interests of western nations.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aiyn</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-202879</link> <dc:creator>Aiyn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:19:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-202879</guid> <description>Everybody who opposes the imperialism is a terrorist. They are fighting to free their lands. History is our evidence indeed as somebody stated. The laws are created to impose sanctions against those who oppose these imperialistic states. We need to realise, that the white man only speaks the language of the gun. And states that he is on the top of food chain. Law of the Jungle. We better understand who we are dealing with.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody who opposes the imperialism is a terrorist. They are fighting to free their lands. History is our evidence indeed as somebody stated. The laws are created to impose sanctions against those who oppose these imperialistic states. We need to realise, that the white man only speaks the language of the gun. And states that he is on the top of food chain. Law of the Jungle. We better understand who we are dealing with.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: maori</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-202861</link> <dc:creator>maori</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:07:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-202861</guid> <description>Do onto them, lest they do onto you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do onto them, lest they do onto you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mick Williams</title><link>http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/30/would-you-dream-of-returning-to-your-country-your-homes/#comment-202630</link> <dc:creator>Mick Williams</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:48:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://sabbah.biz/mt/?p=1482#comment-202630</guid> <description>Try to imagine that you are a Jew and for 3,000 years, your people have been persecuted and slaughtered, driven out of your own homeland that your ancestors have lived in since circa 1800 BCE.
Imagine that you are a Jew and trace your family tree back to some guy named Abraham who had 2 sons named Isaac and Jacob and that they and their wives are buried in ancient Ma&#039;arat HaMachpela &#039;Tomb of the Patriarchs&#039; in Hebron.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try to imagine that you are a Jew and for 3,000 years, your people have been persecuted and slaughtered, driven out of your own homeland that your ancestors have lived in since circa 1800 BCE.<br
/> Imagine that you are a Jew and trace your family tree back to some guy named Abraham who had 2 sons named Isaac and Jacob and that they and their wives are buried in ancient Ma&#8217;arat HaMachpela &#8216;Tomb of the Patriarchs&#8217; in Hebron.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
