Comments on: Why should denial of the Holocaust be a crime?

By: Eden Hadassah

Eden Hadassah — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:44:46 +0000

Here is the second:

http://www.mediamonitors.net/mazin8.html

By: Eden Hadassah

Eden Hadassah — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:41:29 +0000

Here is the first:

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine.html

By: Eden Hadassah

Eden Hadassah — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:35:09 +0000

I have mixed feelings on Holocaust denial…
On one hand, I feel that we should be able to question the Holocaust and search for the facts. I don’t want to just take someone’s word for it.
THEN…ON THE OTHER HAND! I say bring it on! Bring on the laws that make denying the Holocaust illegal. Hear me out on this one…
If it is made illegal, who will go to jail? Zionists, and all those who glorify the suffering of the jewish people and DENY THE HOLOCAUST THAT IS GOING ON IN PALESTINE, AND DENY AND MARGINALIZE THE “OTHERS” THAT DIED AS WELL IN THE HOLOCAUST IN EUROPE.
We can not let the truth become a byword for the sake of some sort of solidarity. If they are going to make it illegal, then it should be illegal across the board! Or not at all.
The holocaust memorial is a sham! There is no proof that all the naked people that they show in a mass grave are judaics. They could be some of the “others.” I keep saying the “others”, because they have not been given proper honor in the holocaust memorials. This is also holocaust denial by those who fund Holocaust Museums, only showing jewish photo’s and jewish things. What about everyone else? So I guess my own charge is against my own people who themselves deny the holocaust. What should be done? The proof is in the museums. Check it out, and complain to the “powers that be”, and tell the authorities in the countries where it is illegal, that the holocaust memorials and museums are guilty of holocaust denial by denying the “others” and not honoring them properly.
I am going to post two links in the following posts.

By: B A R Khalil

B A R Khalil — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:41:49 +0000

If people could deny the existence of God without even a slap on the wrist why should denial of the Holocaust be made illegal. The Zionist Jews are not above God, but perhaps they think that they are (probably they think they own God, but more likely they own satan and the devil).

By: Andrew Milner

Andrew Milner — Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:08:12 +0000

Welcome to Austria: Birthplace of Adolph Hitler. Seems more than a little illogical and hypocritical for Austria to imprison Holocaust deniers when they started the Holocaust in the first place. So check out how many Nazi leaders came from Austria. Small wonder they are in denial. Finally Austria realised the embarrassment they were causing for themselves and released David Irving early. But this is symptomatic of how world opinion is shifting away from the Jews in general and Israel in particular. The extent to which US Jews control the US government is finally being exposed. The even bigger picture is that a decline in US world status (definitely on the cards) will be very bad news for Israel. Similarly, Taiwan, South Korea and even Guam might want to mend a few fences with China. Notice how Japan is moving from a self-defence force to a standing army. Imagine for a moment the price of oil per barrel if the state of Israel had never been founded. The old order changeth. Nice neutral, Buddhist country anyone?

By: one palestine

one palestine — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:49:00 +0000

holocaust
n 1: an act of great destruction and loss of life
(WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University)

Which holocaust?

The Armenian one? According to most estimates, 80,000 to 300,000 Armenians were killed between 1894 and 1897. Over a million Armenians perished between 1914 to 1923.

The Cambodian one? Estimates of between 30,000 and 500,000 killed by U.S. bombing.

The Japanese one? U.S. bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki together killed about 214,000 people.

Let us not forget the other holocausts, these and so many more. There is no exclusive claim to the term, as with “semite”, which applies to Palestinians and Syrians.

By: War Without End :: View topic - Why should denial of the Holocaust be a crime?

War Without End :: View topic - Why should denial of the Holocaust be a crime? — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:03:54 +0000

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By: Robin

Robin — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:23:22 +0000

Truth,
If you want to know why these sites are shut down you need look no further than this http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=15157
In 2004 Congress passed HR 4230, The Global Anti-Semitism Review Act which established an office within the US State Department, the Office to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism. Check it out and also check out INACH http://www.inach.net/ ie who their newly elected chairman is and you might begin to get a clue as to why this is happening. Personally, I am not understanding the arguement against questioning the Holocost. There is that old saying, “He doeth protest too much”. Is even scholarly questioning supposed to be against the law? This is nothing short of trying to put a lid on academic freedom which is indeed one of the hallmarks of fascism. If someone turns up facts refuting certain aspects of what has been accepted as fact for years then what? People can argue until they are blue in the face but the core fact remains, one people’s subjection to genocide true or not should NEVER be given as an excuse to supplant another from their land. That’s why the Zionists clinging to the Holocost just doesn’t make sense to me. But then again, what am I to know, the WHOLE Zionist arguement makes no sense to me. Where is the Gypsy state after WWII? Just a thought.

By: TheTruthHurtsTheMost

TheTruthHurtsTheMost — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:00:25 +0000

Does anybody know why the Germans targeted the jews? The Jews obtained Palestine by selling out Germany. Benjamin Freedman speech

Auschwitz: The Final Count

I have noticed that any sites which publish stories which refute the official holocaust story are mysteriously shut down. Strange.

By: Yolanda

Yolanda — Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:18:57 +0000

Auschwitz was inhabited almost exclusively by Polish non-Jews for the first 21 months of the camp’s existence. The first Pole died in June, 1940 and the first Jew died there in October of 1942.

By: bint battuta

bint battuta — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:37:15 +0000

I don’t want to go too far off the subject (Holocaust denial), but I’d just like to add a little to what has been said about the other nationalities and communities killed in the course of WWII. It’s true that Hitler targetted the Jews for complete extermination, but it is not true that everyone else was ‘killed in the normal course of war’. Hitler saw the war in the East (the lands east of Germany) as a colonial war, in an attempt to gain ‘Lebensraum’ for the Germans. The Germans followed the laws of war against the western powers, but not against the Soviets and the ‘lesser’ peoples of the East. 3.5 percent of their British and American POWs died in captivity, whereas 57 percent of Soviet POWs died – 3.3 million altogether, from a combination of starvation, cold, disease, execution, and gassing. And the first to be gassed in Auschwitz were Soviet POWs. The Russians and others were not be exterminated as a whole, but they were to be a slave labour force for the Germans.
For further information see this article by the US Holocaust Memorial Museum: http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007178

By: one palestine

one palestine — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:45:37 +0000

Should denial of the Nakhba be a crime?

Should denial of the existence of Palestinians on their land for thousands of years be a crime?

Should denial of basic human rights for millions of Palestinians be a crime?

Should the daily, and nearly 60 years of, extrajudicial kidnappings, imprisonments, murders and assassinations by Israel be a crime?

Should Britain’s passing off to the Israelis of their own thirty years of occupation, brutality and imperial rule in Palestine be a crime?

Should the imprisonment of children by Israel be a crime?

Should the murder of children by Israel be a crime?

Should the murder of civilians by Israel be a crime?

Should every prime minister of Israel since Ben Gurion be held accountable for their murderous policies and actions in a war crimes tribunal, just as was done with Milosevic and Hussein by the world community, and with a number of former SS officers by Israel?

Should writers like Alan Dershowitz and Joan Peters be put on trial for publishing lies about the history of Palestine and its long-time native inhabitants?

Should such writers be stripped of their privileged positions in the media and higher education and be thrown into prison for libel and worse?

Should the fact that the world will never consider any of the above mentioned issues due to their blind prejudice and racism against the Arabs be a crime?

By: Gag Halfrunt

Gag Halfrunt — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:12:45 +0000

There is a difference between the Jews and the Poles, Russians, etc. The latter were killed in the normal course of war, so to speak, whereas the Jews were specifically targetted for annihilation. The Nazis deliberately sought to exterminate every Jew in occupied Europe, and established a whole infrastructure of death — military forces, prison camps, gas chambers, creamtoria — to accomplish that goal.

By: Jocklate

Jocklate — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:13:29 +0000

Salman Rushdie did speak out against Islam and wrongly called what is a great religion “Satanic Verses”. However, the Fatwa declared on him was not really implemented for that reason. The 1988 Iranian regime conveniently used this as an excuse: the real reason the 1988 Iranian regime did not like Rushdie was because Rushdie supported the 1921-1978 Pahlavi regime (The Pahlavi Shahs) and had been friendly with the Shah. In typical Saddam fashion, the opportunists in Iran saw a fatwa against Rushdie as a way to:

1. Silence a monarchy supporter who had influence (the same reason is behind the banning of sattelite dishes in Tehran).

2. To make Iran the superpower in the Islamic world (the same reason is also behind the current anti-Israel rhetoric).

Some pious peasant in Afghanistan loved Ayatollah Khomeini for signing it into law. Most Iranian professionals saw it as yet another example of what it was – a political trick: Khomeini, an educated man, knew how to be the Pied Piper and lead the masses. Especially, he needed them as Iraq was waging war.

Other people like Bazargan (the first post-Shah President) were critical of Khomeini (and more especially those younger men around Khomeini who influenced this old (he was at least 78 when he lead the revolution) and sick (he had heart attacks at many times during the 1980s) Ayatollah) and were able to live in Iran freely. Why? Bazargan was no threat to the regime (he merely wanted out and resigned) and also hated the Shah as much as Khomeini did. That was tolerated. Rushdie was pro-Shah but Khomeini’s advisors saw a way of nailing him without making it look like what it was (another jaded attempt by the new Iranian government to punish another Pahlavi apologist).

By: Jocklate

Jocklate — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:56:06 +0000

Denial of the holocaust should not be a crime. Why?

Sure, the holocaust was a terrible thing. But, until the US repent for Hiroshima, the British for their almost wiping off the face of the earth of many indigeneous peoples and so on, why should the holocaust be singled out as exceptional. That’s an insult to a whole lot of Japanese, native Americans, Aborigines, Maoris, Irish, Africans, India Indians, and so on .. All these things are bad but the British and Americans are exempt all the time! Bush and Blair are as bad as Hitler.