U.S. Veto to Support Israeli Crimes
(Ben Heine © Cartoons)
Once again, United States support state terrorism and allow Israel to continue its crimes.
A little while ago, U.S. vetoed a U.N. draft Security Council resolution condemning Israel’s shelling of the Gaza town of Beit Hanoun. It is not a surprise for a Palestinian like me, however, my question is for fellow Americans; how can you sleep tonight knowing that your elected government decided to support Israel for its continuous massacres against innocents?
The Security Council resolution was suppose to urge a quick withdrawal of Israeli forces from the area, deploy observer force and investigate the killings. But U.S. thinks that all of this is not necessary, as Israel is doing what they suppose to do, with your tax money.
Enjoy your weekend while the Palestinian lick their wounds!
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33 Comments on “U.S. Veto to Support Israeli Crimes”
We will keep fighting, Haitham, with letters to editors, through our blogs by exposing our prostituted Congress, using whatever talents we possess to rectify this injustice.
I have sat here in front of this comment box for more than an hour, writing and erasing because there are NO words to express my shame as an American. Thank you Umkahlilil for writing something so I have the guts to get past my shame and write something myself. It could take pages, but I will only say this,
my government does NOT speak for me or the others who do not support this veto and we will fight!!! This blood is on the hands of every single American who does nothing to stop this blind support of the killing of innocent Palestinians and the continued brutal occupation of their land.
You want peace in the Middle East America? VOTE for peace and VOTE to stop these crimes against humanity.
As long as Bolton “the US is right and the world is wrong” is in the UN the Israelis can do anything they want.
Bush and his Christian-Zionist friends are trying everything they can to receive their “rapture”.
Whatever happened to the Christian scripture of “God is all forgiving”?
Does this only cover Christians that are bombarded every day by their leaders about how they are not smart enough to understand the Bible?
Does this cover Islamic leaders who do the same to their followers?
Israel has become a terrorist state, and the US supports them.
The Palestinians are called terrorists instead of freedom fighters.
Money talks. The US has money (soon to be gone), and the Palestinians don’t.
The Palestinians don’t have money because the US gives it all to Israel.
Terrorism, family values, free trade, sensible government and other bullshit. This is what Bush supports.
But this doesn’t include the Palestinians. Why not?
Because the “Rapture will happen soon”.
Let us hope the Democrats will reign in Bush and hie religious right!
The problems all stem back to the Jews returning to Israel. If Hitler hadn’t persecuted the Jews, then the mass return probably wouldn’t have occurred, and all the violence in the Middle East would not have happened. There would most likely not be any Islamic-Extremists bombing places right and left giving the finger to America, because they wouldn’t hate America in the first place. Why? Because America wouldn’t have had to help Israel. So if you wanna blame someone, blame Hitler. He (indirectly) kills more people than any other dead person every day!
How do you sleep at night knowing that your elected government supports suicide bombers blowing themselves up in crowded Israeli shops and buses?
Myabe nextime they will stop with their suicide bombers.
Another Security Council vote ! there are tens of Security Council votes against Israel, as well as hundreds of General assemply resolutions and reports that has been ignored by Israel.
Taking this issue to the UN was an excape pathway for the imcompetent Arabic countries who has nothing else to do.
The only thing that can make a difference in the life of the Palestinians is their internal strength; their unity, their rationality, their resistance, their well-being as a nation.
Israel is much more scared of the news on the formation of a unity government amongst the Palestinian than any UN resolution.
Israel was forced to leave Gaza and South Lebanon not because of UN resolutions, but because she had to. This what will make Israel leave the West Bank too.
Leave the imcompetent UN to the imcompetent Arabs. We do not need it.
Occupation return resistance. Violence return violence. Which one comes first? I guess any of my kids can tell you that Israeli is occupying their home. So, get Israel out of my land, you won’t give any reason for someone to blow himself in a bus. Stop Israel terrorist army from killing civilians so that you don’t give a reason for Palestinians to retaliate.
FYI, 1) in the last four months only, Palestinians are not firing rockets into Israel, but into Israeli settlement. “Settlement”, is a Palestinian occupied land, and Israel is using civilians as human shields.
2) in the last four months of Israeli killings in Gaza about 3 Israelis have died ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6122138.stm) all of them soldiers, one shot by his own side. During the same period, 247 Palestinians dead ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6127250.stm). 155 of them “civilians”, 57 “children”. 996 wounded, 337 of them are “children.”
“Occupation return resistance. Violence return violence”
this is the problem, who really owns the land who started it?
who owns it
the israeli says this has been my land since god gave it to me in ?500BC, the palestinian says you&the british landjacked me in the early 1900’s
neither are right, you have to share it in peace or accept the same fate.
who started it
you did no you did….
you both did, and thats the only acceptable answer for peace
I think people should focus more on what the answer is…… its really pretty simple. I honestly feel bad for the children who suffer and get brianwashed with the crap their parents think (kids are kids regardless of what their parents think.)
-Accept each others existance, as humans and as countries. this has to start with existing terms as unfair as portions may be.
-no violence, ever heard of ghandi? he beat the british empire with no gun’s or missles.if Ghandi would have elected hamas into power India would still be a british colony.
-no religion just people, instead of hating people because they are arab or jew hate them because they like country music or like them because you both like art(aka don’t listen to your religious leaders )…..
You poor, uneducated, ignorant fools. Here is a quote from above by Robin:
my government does NOT speak for me or the others who do not support this veto and we will fight!!! This blood is on the hands of every single American who does nothing to stop this blind support of the killing of innocent Palestinians and the continued brutal occupation of their land.
Innocent? You cannot use, “the killing of innocent Palestinians” as an argument, when, on a regular basis, someone straps a bomb to their body and detonates it, killing a bus full of commuters and school chldren in Jeruselem, all of whom are “innocent”. Just because you refuse to accept the fact that a significant portion of the Arab world, through a continued cycle of brain-washing and religious rhetoric, desire the destruction of an entire race of people. Arab “culture” has failed. These people are in control of the single most important commodity on Earth, OIL. Do you know what they’ve done with that commodity? NOTHING. They live without basic infrastructure, things such as, oh, I don’t know, water, food, sanitation. But their “leaders” live in great palaces, with plenty of virgin’s at their disposal… The West puts people on the moon, they put people in holes in the ground and throw rocks at them. They’re living in the STONE AGE. Everyone has the right to live as they wish, accept when that wish is to destroy all those who do not believe as they do. If you choose to deny the reality of the situation that we face, then you do not deserve the freedoms that good men and women have died to protect. You take for granted all that which has been given to you. You feel you have the right to say what you have said in this forum, online, somewhat anonymously. You would not have that right in a place like Tehran. These Muslims do not want a peacefull coexistence with non Muslims. The US invasion of Iraq was led by an ignorant, bewildered, religious fool, that’s obvious. But do not ignore the threat posed by these fanatical zealots who mean to destroy our way of life.
Israel dad killed civilians by error in an effort to stop terrorists that fire missiles on Israeli towns such as shderot aiming on innocent people on purpose. I would think that a Palestinian should know that.
Haitham,
I refuse to accept that this “So, get Israel out of my land, you won’t give any reason for someone to blow himself in a bus.” Is a legitimate reason to kill innocents. I also wish I could do something to change the policy of overwhelming force that Israel uses in retaliation. Both sides are in the wrong, and there is NOTHING worse about Israel than the settlers, but until the Palestinians recognize Israel’s right to exist there will be problems.
Joe,
You are spot on. I hate to say this, because I know it will sound racist, but Muslims are the only people on a wide scale that haven’t learned to use non-violence as a means of resistance.
I can’t see why it surprises rebels in the Middle East and Former USSR that a country with an established military will use force when force is used against it.You don’t start a war without adhering to any “rules of engagement” and then complain when an army does the same. Should the country, in this case Israel, have to use the same rules it would use when fighting another country if the people they are fighting are a rogue group (until their recent election)?
The Muslim world will only achieve it’s goals when it: a)secularizes, b)turns to non-violence, and c)begins to follow the rules it expects it’s opponents to adhere to.
When the Israelis miss, civilians die. When the Arabs succeed, civilians die.
heheh…
BertW, the bad news is: Israel NEVER MISS and Arabs NEVER succeed.
Thanks for telling the truth!
Thanks for all the criticism, but that does not change any of the facts.
So, here we go again:
1. If there is no occupation, there is no resistance, thus everyone lives happy. “Time factor” is not a solution here, so no matter how old the conflict will get, Israel will remain occupation, period.
2. If you believe that God promised you this land, then sorry to convey this to you, but your God was wrong. Go and file a case in heavens court.
3. If you have a problem with Palestinians, don’t show your metal in killing civilians while claiming that you are taking revenge on terrorist, for you are just practicing the true terrorism.
4. If you don’t know history, ignorance is not an excuse for your here. Go and open some decent history books and read read read…
5. If I’m not a Jew, then you say I’m anti-Semitism. And if I’m a Jew, you call me self-hated Jew. Make up your mind. In other words, when you say “take note of my views” actually you mean “change things to exactly how I want them otherwise I won’t be your friend any more”. Sorry, you are wrong!
6. No one said that killing civilians on Israeli side is right, it was always condemned at all levels. If that’s what they told you, change your cable network and don’t blame me for their lies.
7. Every time Israel kills civilians and innocent Palestinians, they claim that Palestinian resistance is using civilians as human shields. While this is not true, but Palestinians have stronger case if they claim that Israel is using Israeli civilians as human shield, since their enemy is anyone and everyone occupying their land, supporting and taking actions in killing Palestinians. Isn’t Israel punishing all of Palestinians for their choice of Hamas? Ok, so can Palestinians hold all Israeli responsible for their government policies and results. How to save civilians? Return occupied lands and live in peace. If you still feel unsafe, go back to where you came from…. where did you come from? Russia? So you are not Israel? Then what the hell are you doing here?
8. Arab league proposed twice a lasting peace plan in the last few years. Both time rejected by Israel. If Israel wants peace with all Arab, including Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese, etc… then why not accept that plan?
9. Two states solution is not a solution, even if that’s what some are proposing. Simply, refugees want their land back, I want my land back, and I won’t give it for compensation. If you have a problem in that, take the compensation you want to give me and go live where you think I should go and live. For lasting peace, it should be one state, Jews, Muslims and Christians. Land for everyone, and religion for God. Other than that, dream for peace!
10. I’m not here to solve the world’s problems, nor to please anyone, nor to change your views. I present what I see and believe. Sometime, some people like and agree, others don’t. After all, we all have brains to think and decide, and fortunately, the people who now know more about Israel, Zionism and their supporters, are more than I could count, which gives me hope to continue.
11. Last but not least, “Zionism is not equal to Racism, in fact it is worse.”
I think its good for them to do that helps get the world towards peace. However religious zealots need to work to which is the true problem.
I am rather enjoying a good dialog here so I’ll discuss you points step by step…..
“1. If there is no occupation, there is no resistance, thus everyone lives happy. Time factor is not a solution here, so no matter how old the conflict will get, Israel will remain occupation, period.”
ultimately the palestinians lost their land in the war of 1967, generally if you lose a war everyone is killed or they live treated as 2nd class citizens. you’ll notice the Palestinians have a greater backing for a country than any other oppressed groups(ex the kurds have no kurdistan). Ironically the Arab world should be ashamed of the way they help the palestinians with Weapons and with nothing more. From what I’ve read the palestinians are not treated so great in jordan,egypt or lebanon… the only answer is a free independant palestine, made up of the land they have today without any settlements (as a basic starting point, with time and peace I’m sure there can be deals made). In short if you lose the war you have to restart your bid for independance without getting you want for the initial time.
“2. If you believe that God promised you this land, then sorry to convey this to you, but your God was wrong. Go and file a case in heavens court.”
my god your god his god a god. you’re all people, you all like ice cream and pizza. “your god was wrong”….this is how the whole mess started. the truth is its everyones land, the romans have as much stake as the palestinians do, they there for a 100 years?.there have been many groups of people living there, and it will only survive in peace.
“3. If you have a problem with Palestinians, dont show your metal in killing civilians while claiming that you are taking revenge on terrorist, for you are just practicing the true terrorism.”
Now I do believe Israel reacts with a strong hand on alot of issues…but how do you fight a terrorist group that lives and hides amoung the innocent? its not possible. And who suffers, innocent palestinians who want a normal life. If it was a non violent (Ghandi) struggle you would be eating pizza in jeruselem right now.
“4. If you dont know history, ignorance is not an excuse for your here. Go and open some decent history books and read read read”
who’s history books are we talking about? every country has a diffenent on, I believe there is no israel on any maps in many middle eastern countries?
“5. If Im not a Jew, then you say Im anti-Semitism. And if Im a Jew, you call me self-hated Jew. Make up your mind. In other words, when you say take note of my views actually you mean change things to exactly how I want them otherwise I wont be your friend any more. Sorry, you are wrong!”
Granted Jews are great debators. I have friends Jew and Arab alike and enjoy arguing with both of them. the truth is anyone can call anyone anything. its all in how you provide proof. the devil is in the details. all i ask is if you say your wrong you can provide clear proof that can survive a rebuttal.
“6. No one said that killing civilians on Israeli side is right, it was always condemned at all levels. If thats what they told you, change your cable network and dont blame me for their lies.”
I do believe that good people exist everywhere and somewhere in gaza a bunch of people are having coffee or tea saying blowing up children in israel is not the right thing to do….however with hamas as the elected governement (elected by the majority of people) having a charter of suicide bombers you can’t really say most people have any simpathy for innocent civilians in Israel. Also note hamas (elected governemnt) does not accept Israels right to exist…..
“7. Every time Israel kills civilians and innocent Palestinians, they claim that Palestinian resistance is using civilians as human shields. While this is not true, but Palestinians have stronger case if they claim that Israel is using Israeli civilians as human shield, since their enemy is anyone and everyone occupying their land, supporting and taking actions in killing Palestinians. Isnt Israel punishing all of Palestinians for their choice of Hamas? Ok, so can Palestinians hold all Israeli responsible for their government policies and results. How to save civilians? Return occupied lands and live in peace. If you still feel unsafe, go back to where you came from. where did you come from? Russia? So you are not Israel? Then what the hell are you doing here?”
All Israelis (to my knowledge) have family in the Army as they have no choice. SO I suppose saying that their parents make them dinner when they come home from the army would make them accomplices to the occupation in a very minor way. However I think you have to ask yourself, if you had a fight with another man in town, should you fight just him or should you kill his mom and cousins too. I believe you meet people head on if you are to fight, you don’t hide behind other people that they would receive any of the fight that they did not start. Any terrorist resistance hides behind regular hardworking people who want peace. this is the biggest problem for palestine. Also the “where did you come from” is very closed minded. the Jews and Arabs have to share the land in a seperate but equal solution. the be honest the best thing would be a country based on no religion and inermarriage of jews and arabs. I suggest they believe in the flying spaghetti monster.
“8. Arab league proposed twice a lasting peace plan in the last few years. Both time rejected by Israel. If Israel wants peace with all Arab, including Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese, etc then why not accept that plan?”
the Arab league serves the intrests of the Arab countries that do not accept Israels right to exist. Syria? Iran? . If you were to accept a deal , you’d want to accept a deal that started with we accept your right to exist. Not if you do this and that we will accept your right to exist, but still not want diplomatic relations.
“9. Two states solution is not a solution, even if thats what some are proposing. Simply, refugees want their land back, I want my land back, and I wont give it for compensation. If you have a problem in that, take the compensation you want to give me and go live where you think I should go and live. For lasting peace, it should be one state, Jews, Muslims and Christians. Land for everyone, and religion for God. Other than that, dream for peace!”
the 2 state solution is the only solution. Think about how long this crap has been going on (and how long it will continue). Israleis need security to control their future, as do the palestinians. Peace comes thru stability. it will take 2>3 generations of living seperate but equal until everyone has forgiven the other for the violent acts of the past. Start the process now and learn to live as good neighbor countries. With all the money the surrounding Arab countries pump into palestine, a peaceful palestine could be a beautiful country.
“10. Im not here to solve the worlds problems, nor to please anyone, nor to change your views. I present what I see and believe. Sometime, some people like and agree, others dont. After all, we all have brains to think and decide, and fortunately, the people who now know more about Israel, Zionism and their supporters, are more than I could count, which gives me hope to continue.”
you should be here to solve the worlds problems. it all starts with the people. you should be here to represent your views and convince others thru peaceful dialog how to fix things.
“11. Last but not least, Zionism is not equal to Racism, in fact it is worse.”
Zionism is the same as Black pride, Christian pride, arab pride. its a group of people of one group stating how great it is to be X group. The same way palestinians are proud to be palestinians. and everyone has their own view of it. I think of Zionism as a bunch of Jews who wanted a country (Israel) where they would be allowed to be Jewish without having to be second class citizens. Palestinians want the same thing a free palestine where they can control their fate as free equal citizens. Everyone likes to call out zionism as racism that is jews only. now granted in orthodox sects of any religion this is true (radical islam, judiasm, christianity)..but for most people its just the ability to be who you are without shame or fear. Also releavant to Zionism last I checked Non arabs were not allowed to goto Mecca or many holy places of Islam. Is there a term for places that non islamic humans may not go ?
Just remember, we’re all humans and we all like pizza. Its a great starting point for any chance of peace
How do we live with it? Because of the US’s massive size, many people sadly never leave the US and can’t care less about international matters.
Those of us in the US who give a damn, protest, but the fact is that we have a representative to the UN, John Bolton, who has contempt for the UN and is a contemptible jerk, and a President which 69% of the country distrusts.
Then there’s the fact that we didn’t elect John Bolton, and the fact that the Administration’s done everything it can to marginalize the influence of the UN inside the country, and that Americans fear each other so much now that even legal demonstrations stand a chance of conflict and police action.
We sleep at night because honestly, our country’s politics are screwed up. Our economy is going down — people don’t have enough money to take time off, much less demonstrate for every worthy cause. Those who would execute or support violence of any kind against any institution would be immediately branded traitors and probably terrorists, and jailed or executed based on the magnitude of their crime. Many stay quiet because it is the easier thing to do. Others shout and protest because it is the only thing they can do.
But really, it’s the fear. Fear that not supporting Israel means supporting terrorism. Fear that if Israel can’t hold its enemies back, they’ll come to America. Fear that if someone speaks out, they’ll be punished — either by the law, by extremists, or in some other intangible way. Fear that if they take time off of work to believe in a cause they won’t be able to pay their morgtage. Fear because the government was elected to be representative of the people and yet voter groups skew the turnout while apathetic people forego voting. Rationalization that a bad government is much less fearful than none.
I could rant some more, but won’t. Attack the government all you like — but while I agree that Israel is doing wrong, you can only blame the *people* of the US so much. If it were possible for citizens to refuse to pay the tax dollars funneled to Israel, many of us would choose to do such a thing.
It would appear my last post was deleted after being up for a few hours. was it because it was contrary to the greater view of everyone posting. I thought open debate was the point of an internet blog.
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Its back , thanks
Just to make few things clear, Joe.
Your comment was never deleted, it was in moderation until you bombarded the comment section with three more comments, which triggered the anti-spam script to identify you as a sapmmer and thus deleted all your comments. I received them from there and now they are back as you can see.
On the other hand, no, blogs are not forums, and this is how I like to keep mine. If a comment is valid (in the eyes of the blog owner), then it is welcome, if not, he have the right to flush it down the drain.
I see you have a very comprehensive comment, which I don’t fully agree with you, and I’ll reply to it later today when I’m back from office. Mean while, help your self in searching the word Zionism in my archive and learn more about my views in this regard. I’m sure it will help you understand more of what is going on here.
Hi There!
There is a strong support of Irannians to defend all Palestinans and Lebenees!
and About UN…
“United Nation Organization is just The Plaything of Zionists, USA and Western Countries!
It doesn’t defend oppressed and Injured BUT It Protect and defend USA and Zionists aims!
It defend oppressives like Israel regime(Palestine and Lebonan), Iraq regime(on the time of war to Iran), USA(War of Afqanistan, Iraq, Vietnam), Serbias(on the war of Bosnia), ETC!
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WHERE IS JUSTICE?! WHERE IS EQUALITY?! WHERE IS DEMOCRACY?!
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USA, RUSIA, CHINA, FRANCE, ENGLAND, GERMANY & ITALY are countries that have right to VETO Manifestoes!! Is this Justice?!
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Say togheter that United Nation and also other National Organizations like that, are not to make PEACE around the world, but They are just to Sefe-guarding the interests of Western and Powerful countries , Specialy Zionists and USA!
“STOP” UNITED NATION or “REFORM” IT! “
Joe,
If someone lose a war, everyone is NOT killed or treated as 2nd class citizen. Take for example Germany and Japan… without going too far from the main point here: losing a war is something and occupation is something else. What Israel is doing is not winning a war, but occupying a land that does not belong to them and winning a war does not give legality to occupation, unless Israel is something different than all known laws!
I agree, the only solution is a free independent Palestine, but not the one that is proposed today. If there is going to be a lasting peace, it has to be one country, call it Palestine, Israel or even Isralestine. The reason is simple, refugees will not accept any midway solution, no matter what is offered other than returning their land.
I can’t agree more. When I say “Your God”, I’m being sarcastic of the religious claims of some, whereas others, like Christians and Muslims have same claims. At the end, I believe in one thing. “Land for all, and religion for God.” Other than that is nothing more than stirring the dirty water.
Here comes the wrong misleading statements. Let me ask you one simple question. When someone comes and occupy your home and you react back with resistance and fighting back. What is the occupier called if he kills your family, and what are you called if you kill his (which he brought to sleep in your bed)?
The answer is simple. Occupation is terrorism. Fighting back is called “RESISTANCE”. Yes, resistance, resistance, resistance, keep repeating it back until you unlearn what the Zionist media keeps on repeating until it became facts for ignorant. That’s what they call as, “keep repeating a lie until it becomes the fact.”
Now, as we agreed, Palestinian militia is called, resistance, and these resistance, unlike criminals like Bin Laden; did not run out of their country. They are living in their homes land, between their families, and they have all the right to defend themselves and their families with all means, ALL MEANS. When was resistance a crime but in Palestine? Ironic.
Second, let’s look at it this way. A criminal comes and kill one of your sons and occupy your home, you ask for help, no one give it, you act by your own, the criminal kills one more of your sons again, you decide to revenge and kill one of his sons, he comes and kill ten of yours, you go back and kill 2, he comes and kill 20, and so on. Now, you are living in a tent which you build in the back garden of your home, and the criminal is living inside your home with all his family. So, the question is, who is taking civilians as human shield? The criminal which occupied your home and brought his family in, or you and the remaining of your family which lives in the tent and have no place else to run to when the criminal decide to kill your family while you are a sleep?
Nor Palestine you will say. Fine. But who was living in this land when the occupation came in? No one? Then what are these millions refugees living in camps inside and outside of occupied Palestine? have they fall from sky?
The problem here is that the world is giving Semitism a great deal while in the other hand they condemn discrimination. So what is you are a Semitist? I’m too by the way. I’m a son of Ebrahim (Abraham) too!!!
I’m not going to argue the Hamas thing here as I’m not one of their fans. Check out my archive and you can find more. However, I said this before, and I’m saying it again:
1. Hamas was elected not because of their political program and because people believe they are doing the right thing in that front. In fact it is the opposite. Palestinians lost hopes in peace and negotiations with Israel. At the same time, Palestinians were suffering from economical problems and previous government were in office for very long. They were (and still are) corrupted, and the people wanted to get ride of them. The result was Hamas because these people are very well known in there clean hands, financially.
2. Israel does not accept Palestinians right to exist. In fact, until this day, if you go to the Knesset, you will see the map of greater Israel hanging there, from river to river (Egypt to Iraq). So, the question is, what difference does it make if Hamas accept Israel right to exist or not if Israel itself is not accepting the Palestinians right to exist. Forget about the political speeches, look on ground. How can you convince a Palestinian that Israel wants peace and accept his right to exist while every day, more land is stolen and new settlements are built on stolen lands?
To save your time, read the above home-criminal-occupation-resistance story again. It will answer you.
Occupation has no right to bring anyone to live in the lands he controls. Do you know this law or not? What give Israel the right to else? Nothing. If this apply to everyone, it should include Israelis. So, don’t bring civilians to live in a land which is occupied and you won’t get your family killed. Simple!
Maybe you should go back and read more about this part.
First, Iran is not an Arab country, so is not part of Arab League.
Second, the Arab peace proposal of 2002 was very clear and fulfil all what Israel claims is a just peace, as well others like what the Palestinians are asking now and the Syrian and Lebanese. So, Syria approved that plan, everyone did, but Israel rejected it. Ask yourself why? They don’t want to return to 1967 borders. They don’t want to give the refugees their RoR, they don’t want to give back the Golan Heights, etc… in other words, they want to keep the situation as is while claiming the victim.
Thanks!
I do my best, but at the end of the day, I have one major problem called, HOME! have you ever feel that? Have you ever been HOMELESS? Put your self in an uprooted Palestinian shoes, and think for a while. How can you think and do anything but fight for your home first?
Zionism is not a religion, is not a tripe, is not a color, it is an ideology which is based on hate and racism.
I’m proud to know more Jews (Israelis and non Israeli) who are not Zionist, and I’m proud of that. But to put Zionist on the same level of NORMAL people, this is a big mistake.
Peace!
Gdog,
your contention that the Arab-Israeli wars were all the result of “unprovoked” Arab attacks on the state of Israel is patent nonsense. First of all, the 1967 war was initiated by Israel, and not the Arabs. Israel proclaimed their attack was a preemptive strike against those nations that constituted an existential threat to the state Israel; they had to strike first in order to preserve their existence. This justification for war was merely a pretext. Israel’s swift victory over her enemies confirms this. Any nation or nations whose military you can vanquish within 6 days does not pose an existential threat your nation.
The 1967 war had more to do with fulfilling the dreams of those who believed in a “greater Israel,” which had to include the heart of the ancient kingdom that was located in Judea and Samaria, than anything else, even though there were obvious strategic benefits as a result of this action. Yet it is clear, the benefits gained as a result of this action did not include survival of the state of Israel. And, ironically, many of these strategic benefits would become strategic detriments.
The 1973 war was clearly initiated by the Egyptian Arabs. However, the aggression was hardly “unprovoked.” The provocation was the territorial gains, which included Egyptian land, made by Israel in the preceding war. Prior to the war, however, Sadat extended the olive branch to the Israeli’s; he offered an exchange of land for peace. The Israeli’s refused his offer, which resulted in Egypt attacking Israel. Ironically, Israel eventually would accept his offer at camp David.
The 1948 war can also hardly be seen as “unprovoked.” Well if you believe the systematic ethic cleansing of the Palestinians from their homeland was not a provocative action, I suppose you could interpret the Arab attack as unprovoked.
On a side note, I must say I find certain parallels amid America’s wars of conquest in the 19th century, i.e. the Indian and Mexican wars, and that of Israel’s wars of conquest. These parallels are particularly relevant because of America’s and Israel’s “special relationship.” As far as I can see, the Zionists and the Americans were motivated by a similar type of romanticism and idealism. This provided part of justification of their wars of conquest - a threat some kind was needed to fully justify the war. The Americans believed, like the Zionists, that they had a “manifest destiny” to capture, pacify and settle the West, even though it was then currently inhabited by the indigenous peoples of the Americas, and, also, owned by Mexico.
Both nations needed a pretext. In the case of Israel it was the survival of the state, and protection from the bloodthirsty Arab rabble; and in the case of the United States, it was the fact that Mexican troops had spilt American blood (forgetting that the American army was ordered to set up camp in Mexican territory in order to provoke the Mexicans). And the result of all this was: the Americans conquering half of Mexico( known today as the American West) and the Zionist conquering Palestine, and then the West Bank and the Sinai.
Thanks for the response. I will read some of the articles in your archive. Hopefully there will be a free israelistine on day (or a palesrael)
There are billboard in the US with chubby jewish children with cups outstretched saying “Donate to Isreal” and such. Maybe the Palestians should have a fund raiser or put a commercial on TV.
Haitham and Joe,
Just remember. He who wins the war writes the history.
The Zionist are winning the war over occupying terrortorries (pun intended).
Lands are being stolen and freedom is being denied by the Israeli Army all in the name of Israeli freedom.
We can steal your land because the US supports us.
The Palestinians will never win till Bush is defeated.
Alas, Kimmy the problem runs much deeper than George Bush.
A wise man once said “The war of the oppressed is called ‘terrorism,’ and the terrorism of those who are oppressing is called ‘war.’”
To really understand the source of the problem, just look at which side produces the most casualties.